Is Dalen Terry an NBA level player?

[Jvaughn]

Interesting video from Adam Spinella regarding Dalen Terry's shooting.

Watch on YouTube

[MrFortune3]

I don't think the question is whether or not Terry is a NBA level player. He is on potential alone.
The question is can he form himself into a consistent player with a clear role.

[TheJordanRule]

We give this kid 5.6 minutes per game and then expect the board to make an assessment on his current abilities? You serious?

[PaKii94]

He was obviously playing way above his role. His ceiling is guard/wing version of dreymond green. Connector piece who can make some passes, hit open shot, play defense and provide energy. He's very far from it right now but that's the ceiling. Summer league he was put in like a Luka heliocentric role which is not a good role with his non existent scoring abilities

[BullChit]

He was obviously playing way above his role. His ceiling is guard/wing version of dreymond green. Connector piece who can make some passes, hit open shot, play defense and provide energy. He's very far from it right now but that's the ceiling. Summer league he was put in like a Luka heliocentric role which is not a good role with his non existent scoring abilities

100%

He was that on role on the WCB last year and his stats show that out. He isn't a ball dominant star and shouldn't be used as one.

I think his role coming off the bench at the moment should be a wing version of what Ayo was in his rookie season. Get out there and be a disruptive ball of energy that creates havoc and fast break opportunities.

[PaKii94]

He was obviously playing way above his role. His ceiling is guard/wing version of dreymond green. Connector piece who can make some passes, hit open shot, play defense and provide energy. He's very far from it right now but that's the ceiling. Summer league he was put in like a Luka heliocentric role which is not a good role with his non existent scoring abilities

100%

He was that on role on the WCB last year and his stats show that out. He isn't a ball dominant star and shouldn't be used as one.

I think his role coming off the bench at the moment should be a wing version of what Ayo was in his rookie season. Get out there and be a disruptive ball of energy that creates havoc and fast break opportunities.

Yup exactly. Those are the kind of players you need as quality bench role players. Terry and Ayo are similar molds and all they need is a semi consistent 3pt shot to be very valuable.


The people disappointed by Terry's play in the summer league have wrong expectations for him. He's never going to be a star and it's unfair to try to judge him like that.

[Bandit King]

He can battle calik for g league mvp

[DASMACKDOWN]

I thought this thread needed another torch.

I was interested in Dalen Terry as a prospect when I first saw him. I always give the front office the benefit of the doubt when we draft players.

Dalen showed some flashes last year when he played. It was still rather "erratic" and unpolished but I thought something could be there. At least defensively.

This offseason up to now, has been nothing short of an absolute train wreck.

In the summer where just about anyone that has talent can dominate, he was terrible.
In the preseason where players arent even trying hard, he looks even worse.

He looks like completely lost out there. Its like moving a million miles and hour without a purpose. He has no reliable skill on offense. The only thing going for him, is he can be a pesky defender. That's his biggest upside right now.

Ive been saying all offseason that he looks like 2 years away. At this rate, he may not make it 2 years. I hope I am wrong, but Dalen Terry at the moment is cringeworthy when you watch him on the court.

[sco]

I thought this thread needed another torch.

I was interested in Dalen Terry as a prospect when I first saw him. I always give the front office the benefit of the doubt when we draft players.

Dalen showed some flashes last year when he played. It was still rather "erratic" and unpolished but I thought something could be there. At least defensively.

This offseason up to now, has been nothing short of an absolute train wreck.

In the summer where just about anyone that has talent can dominate, he was terrible.
In the preseason where players arent even trying hard, he looks even worse.

He looks like completely lost out there. Its like moving a million miles and hour without a purpose. He has no reliable skill on offense. The only thing going for him, is he can be a pesky defender. That's his biggest upside right now.

Ive been saying all offseason that he looks like 2 years away. At this rate, he may not make it 2 years. I hope I am wrong, but Dalen Terry at the moment is cringeworthy when you watch him on the court.

It would be great if we could channel his aggressiveness into Pat. Short of that, he should be given the PG spot in the g-league to work on his skills. The combination of aggressive with lacking NBA level passing and shooting skills is a giant negative. The best move is to either use him as an expiring in a deadline deal or just let him expire after this season (which is guaranteed).

[rosenthall]

I thought this thread needed another torch.

I was interested in Dalen Terry as a prospect when I first saw him. I always give the front office the benefit of the doubt when we draft players.

Dalen showed some flashes last year when he played. It was still rather "erratic" and unpolished but I thought something could be there. At least defensively.

This offseason up to now, has been nothing short of an absolute train wreck.

In the summer where just about anyone that has talent can dominate, he was terrible.
In the preseason where players arent even trying hard, he looks even worse.

He looks like completely lost out there. Its like moving a million miles and hour without a purpose. He has no reliable skill on offense. The only thing going for him, is he can be a pesky defender. That's his biggest upside right now.

Ive been saying all offseason that he looks like 2 years away. At this rate, he may not make it 2 years. I hope I am wrong, but Dalen Terry at the moment is cringeworthy when you watch him on the court.

I'm a little more optimistic than you. I agree that he's far away from being in the rotation right now, but his big problem is that he can't shoot and tries to do too much. Both of those things can be fixed. Even with his on-ball awfulness, he still generates a healthy amount of rebounds, assists, steals and blocks, which is a good indicator.

I actually kinda wonder if the g-league would be bad for him because it'd be casting him into a role that he won't play in the NBA. He really needs to play off a primary ball handler to be effective and could see him benefitting from playing in lineups where he gets to play off of more experienced players.

[MrSparkle]

Terry's a deep project. No trade value besides as "FRP prospect" padding in a big trade. There are no minutes available for him; Phillips probably takes whatever 5 minutes (every 5th game) will be available. He's gotten much stronger, but he's still on the weak side of NBA forwards.

If he adds another 10 pounds and improves shooting and finishing by 2025, you have a good player. Otherwise, nothing really matters. He's worse than the FO hoped; otherwise they wouldn't have spent an 18th pick on a prospect who needs atleast 2 seasons to develop into a defensive bench player. Kessler and Branham (picked right after him) perform and project better ATM.

But also, you can afford to wait on this guy. There's just no alternative. I'd much sooner drop Carlik.

[HoopsterJones]

Dalen Terry is an awful player. Not composed, no awareness, no real skill set that translates to a player who will make it in the NBA.

[pipfan]

I'm often wrong about the draft, but I was excited about the 22 one, because I thought Eason or maybe MWilliams would fall to us. Then, I liked Kessler and Jovic.

When they picked Terry, I had NO idea who he was-none. When I watched his highlights I was not impressed. How could they have messed up a pick THIS badly?? In all the mocks I saw, no one had him as a FRP, and especially not at #18

[Hangtime84]

He does a lot of the other things well rebounding and deflections.

The primary skills he needs to improve are shooting and ball handling. It might take him a long time.

I think we wanted Eason but he got picked right before us. I just hope Terry has amazing work ethic it's probably gonna take him 2 years to become a rotational player.

[Peelboy]

I think this is the wrong question. Maybe he's a fringe rotation guy. But he's a complete waste of the #18 pick. If he was a 2d round pick, fine. He's not as useful as Tony Snell or Doug McDermott. At this point, he's less useful than Julian Phillips, who can at least shoot and attack while also remaining active defensively.

He needs ANOTHER season in the G league to see if he can even be a fringe rotation guy. I know the hit rate in the draft is low but this guy is Marquis Teague level bad.

[Dan Z]

I thought this thread needed another torch.

I was interested in Dalen Terry as a prospect when I first saw him. I always give the front office the benefit of the doubt when we draft players.

Dalen showed some flashes last year when he played. It was still rather "erratic" and unpolished but I thought something could be there. At least defensively.

This offseason up to now, has been nothing short of an absolute train wreck.

In the summer where just about anyone that has talent can dominate, he was terrible.
In the preseason where players arent even trying hard, he looks even worse.

He looks like completely lost out there. Its like moving a million miles and hour without a purpose. He has no reliable skill on offense. The only thing going for him, is he can be a pesky defender. That's his biggest upside right now.

Ive been saying all offseason that he looks like 2 years away. At this rate, he may not make it 2 years. I hope I am wrong, but Dalen Terry at the moment is cringeworthy when you watch him on the court.

In the draft who did you want the Bulls to select? Who should they have picked over him? Obviously Kessler, but who else?

https://www.basketball-reference.com/draft/NBA_2022.html

I'm not saying this to defend him. I generally agree with you. He hasn't shown much and probably won't get much playing time in the NBA this season.

[Repeat 3-peat]

Should have spent more time in the G league last year, and it's where he needs to be this upcoming season. He performed well there fwiw.

I get the idea of what they likely saw in Terry to draft him(hope he develops as a shooter to be 'Zo 2.0'), but yea not looking good obviously.

[dougthonus]

Yup exactly. Those are the kind of players you need as quality bench role players. Terry and Ayo are similar molds and all they need is a semi consistent 3pt shot to be very valuable.


The people disappointed by Terry's play in the summer league have wrong expectations for him. He's never going to be a star and it's unfair to try to judge him like that.

If he doesn't learn to shoot, he'd need a unicorn of a situation to be successful, because his passing is hard to get much value without a dribble attack / shooting threat, and he's not an uber athlete either. You are talking vet min hustle type guy.

[PaKii94]

Yup exactly. Those are the kind of players you need as quality bench role players. Terry and Ayo are similar molds and all they need is a semi consistent 3pt shot to be very valuable.


The people disappointed by Terry's play in the summer league have wrong expectations for him. He's never going to be a star and it's unfair to try to judge him like that.

If he doesn't learn to shoot, he'd need a unicorn of a situation to be successful, because his passing is hard to get much value without a dribble attack / shooting threat, and he's not an uber athlete either. You are talking vet min hustle type guy.

That's why I said he needs a semi consistent shot. Otherwise yeah he's end of bench/out of the league

[dougthonus]

Yup exactly. Those are the kind of players you need as quality bench role players. Terry and Ayo are similar molds and all they need is a semi consistent 3pt shot to be very valuable.


The people disappointed by Terry's play in the summer league have wrong expectations for him. He's never going to be a star and it's unfair to try to judge him like that.

If he doesn't learn to shoot, he'd need a unicorn of a situation to be successful, because his passing is hard to get much value without a dribble attack / shooting threat, and he's not an uber athlete either. You are talking vet min hustle type guy.

That's why I said he needs a semi consistent shot. Otherwise yeah he's end of bench/out of the league

You mentioned people disappointed in his summer league play, but I think what was most disappointing to me is his shooting mechanics are still awful. It's really hard to see him develop into a solid shooter.