NBA Trade Thread #10

Chi town · Post #121 » by **Chi town** » Sat Jan 20, 2024 4:01 am

Wingy wrote:
NecessaryEvil wrote:Woj just said on espn countdown that the asking price is for Alex Caruso is Astronomical, as the Bulls really don’t want to trade him.

The convo was about Bruce Brown and certain role players being so valued coming towards the trade deadline

Our front office is Idiotical.

I could see someone like OKC paying it due to them having so many ridiculous assets. Maybe HOU.

d boy gentleman · Post #122 » by **d boy gentleman** » Sat Jan 20, 2024 4:35 am

FriedRise wrote:

Read on Twitter

Calling BS on this one. Not every "basketball" account with a blue checkmark is legit. Die Hard Chicago Bulls also has a checkmark and he's ALWAYS wrong

NecessaryEvil · Post #123 » by **NecessaryEvil** » Sat Jan 20, 2024 4:43 am

Yep it only costs 8 bucks a month for the blue check

Red8911 · Post #124 » by **Red8911** » Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:31 am

Wingy wrote:
NecessaryEvil wrote:Woj just said on espn countdown that the asking price is for Alex Caruso is Astronomical, as the Bulls really don’t want to trade him.

The convo was about Bruce Brown and certain role players being so valued coming towards the trade deadline

Our front office is Idiotical.

What’s the problem with that ? You would rather gift another team Caruso? F that, if they want him then they better be ready to give something up.

Wingy · Post #125 » by **Wingy** » Sat Jan 20, 2024 1:25 pm

Red8911 wrote:What’s the problem with that ? You would rather gift another team Caruso? F that, if they want him then they better be ready to give something up.

Our price should be high. However “astronomical” is a word you’d apply when you’re talking an extreme that no one’s realistically going to want to pay. Basically setting a price that makes him untouchable.

Quite frankly that’s idiotic for a team in our position.

Wingy · Post #126 » by **Wingy** » Sat Jan 20, 2024 1:40 pm

My prediction for this deadline is complete paralysis. Again.

AK’s boxed himself into a corner, is in complete denial, and refuses or even can’t admit it he’s so delusional.

Post #127 » by **DuckIII** » Sat Jan 20, 2024 2:57 pm

Wingy wrote:
NecessaryEvil wrote:Woj just said on espn countdown that the asking price is for Alex Caruso is Astronomical, as the Bulls really don’t want to trade him.

The convo was about Bruce Brown and certain role players being so valued coming towards the trade deadline

Our front office is Idiotical.

Or they are playing chicken like tough negotiators while letting the approaching trade deadline apply the pressure needed to . . .

Alright, I think your explanation is better.

Guru · Post #128 » by **Guru** » Sat Jan 20, 2024 3:14 pm

Wingy wrote:My prediction for this deadline is complete paralysis. Again.

AK’s boxed himself into a corner, is in complete denial, and refuses or even can’t admit it he’s so delusional.

I can't imagine following sports with such a joy sucking position.

As if AK didn't sign a great free agent class.
As if he didn't quickly build a great team.
As if you wouldn't complain if he rushed into some trade.

Post #129 » by **DuckIII** » Sat Jan 20, 2024 3:17 pm

Wingy wrote:My prediction for this deadline is complete paralysis. Again.

AK’s boxed himself into a corner, is in complete denial, and refuses or even can’t admit it he’s so delusional.

I still think Zach’s gone, but in the only way that makes absolutely no sense for the team - dumped at a low value period for plug in role players in an attempt to stay short term competitive.

MrSparkle · Post #130 » by **MrSparkle** » Sat Jan 20, 2024 3:29 pm

I expect either no trades or losing trades. Just looking like a Bulls asset bloodbath out there. This team has been a waste of time.

jump · Post #131 » by **jump** » Sat Jan 20, 2024 3:58 pm

MrSparkle wrote:I expect either no trades or losing trades. Just looking like a Bulls asset bloodbath out there. This team has been a waste of time.

They don’t call you Mr Sparkle for nothing.

burlydee · Post #132 » by **burlydee** » Sat Jan 20, 2024 5:58 pm

There's not really a Lavine trade I love for the Bulls. The two teams I keep coming back to are Charlotte and Detroit. How are those teams going to acquire a player as good as Lavine via free agency or trade? Those teams have to hit in the draft and yet ... every year they don't. If I'm the Bulls, those are the two teams I'm targeting.

Trade 1
Bulls trade Lavine, Drummond
Bulls receive Duncan Robinson, Nikola Jovic, PJ Washington. Thomas Bryant, 2nd round pick from Heat via (LAL), 1st round pick from Charlotte in 2026

Heat trade Duncan Robinson, Caleb Martin, Nikola Jovic, LAL 2nd round pick
Heat receive Terry Rozier, Andre Drummond

Charlotte trades Terry Rozier, PJ Washington, #1 pick in 2026
Charlotte receives Caleb Martin, Zach Lavine

The Heat do this trade because they feel like they can make a run now. Rozier's a good player who can fit in as the 3rd or 4th scorer far better than Kyle Lowry. Robinson is expendable with Herro and Jaquez. The Heat are a small team. They're backup center is Thomas Bryant. Drummond is an upgrade.

Charlotte does this trade to get a scorer they could not obtain in free agency. Lavine should actually be a pretty good backcourt pair with LaMelo, who can handle the playmaking and let Lavine concentrate on scoring. Martin gets to play with his brother. He's mostly in the trade for salary purposes.

The Bulls do this trade b/c it gets them two rotation pieces (Robinson, Washington) who can help improve the shooting. A 1st round pick and a young player they can take fly on. That charlotte pick could be really good in a couple of years as could that Lakers 2nd round pick.

Bulls after trade

Coby White / Ayo / Carter
Caruso / Robinson
Demar / Terry
P Will / Craig / Washington
Vuc / Bryant

I imagine Washington would probably see a fair amount of time as a stretch 5 and P Will some time at the 3. This gives AKME the lineup versatility that they like without jeopardizing our awesome shot at the 9th seed.

RSP83 · Post #133 » by **RSP83** » Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:20 pm

Read on Twitter

Lol. And you tell me it's ridiculous to ask for 3 FRPs for Zach? AC alone is worth 3 FRP by that standard.

Chi town · Post #134 » by **Chi town** » Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:22 pm

RSP83 wrote:

Read on Twitter

Lol. And you tell me it's ridiculous to ask for 3 FRPs for Zach? AC alone is worth 3 FRP by that standard.

Ask doesn’t mean get.

Wingy · Post #135 » by **Wingy** » Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:39 pm

Guru wrote:
Wingy wrote:My prediction for this deadline is complete paralysis. Again.

AK’s boxed himself into a corner, is in complete denial, and refuses or even can’t admit it he’s so delusional.

I can't imagine following sports with such a joy sucking position.

As if AK didn't sign a great free agent class.
As if he didn't quickly build a great team.
As if you wouldn't complain if he rushed into some trade.

This assessment of the team is as delusional as AK. He did rush toward a trade that set us back big time. Hello Vuc.

He rushed when he didn’t need to. Now he’s cautious and conservative when it’s time for action.

He is flat out terrible at his job.

patryk7754 · Post #136 » by **patryk7754** » Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:58 pm

Nets are said to be buyers. Maybe we can get two firsts for Damar since they think Finney smith is worth that

Rose2Boozer · Post #137 » by **Rose2Boozer** » Sat Jan 20, 2024 7:55 pm

Caruso is a great connective tissue player, but we don't have much tissue.

Caruso to the Rockets for Oladipo, 2 first via BKN, and a second via OKC. Waive Olacrapo.

Wingy · Post #138 » by **Wingy** » Sat Jan 20, 2024 8:37 pm

Rose2Boozer wrote:Caruso is a great connective tissue player, but we don't have much tissue.

Caruso to the Rockets for Oladipo, 2 first via BKN, and a second via OKC. Waive Olacrapo.

Not bad, but I don’t think the Rockets are that all in yet. Sure they’re hoping for more growth from their youth first.

dawhizz · Post #139 » by **dawhizz** » Sat Jan 20, 2024 9:10 pm

Guru wrote:
Wingy wrote:My prediction for this deadline is complete paralysis. Again.

AK’s boxed himself into a corner, is in complete denial, and refuses or even can’t admit it he’s so delusional.

I can't imagine following sports with such a joy sucking position.

As if AK didn't sign a great free agent class.
As if he didn't quickly build a great team.
As if you wouldn't complain if he rushed into some trade.

He had one very good plan. It got derailed by a freak injury. That sucks. He has shown no ability/willingness to pivot from that original plan two years later and still has no discernible plan for this team being competitive. That seems like a problem.

Rose2Boozer · Post #140 » by **Rose2Boozer** » Sat Jan 20, 2024 9:16 pm

Wingy wrote:
Rose2Boozer wrote:Caruso is a great connective tissue player, but we don't have much tissue.

Caruso to the Rockets for Oladipo, 2 first via BKN, and a second via OKC. Waive Olacrapo.

Not bad, but I don’t think the Rockets are that all in yet. Sure they’re hoping for more growth from their youth first.

More than likely, but I'm sure Udoka would love Caruso as his third guard. The Rockets would probably rather part with Tate or Landale. That being said, it's a call AKME ain't making. They seem to have family pet love for Caruso.