Is Dalen Terry an NBA level player?

[sco]

I'm not down on him, but he could still have a breakout season. He probably plays better with starters. His game is based on hustle. Just only knows one speed rn. That can be developed. He just cant out brute everyone all the time. There needs to be some skill he can offer on offense. He has talent and no focus on what he wants to be. Hes a nba player. Just hes not going to be good at the things he thinks he did in college. He can be a pass only player rn. Hustle hard in transition and be a defender. That will help him this season. He can see minutes, just by doing less and be a rebounder and defender. He has enough talent to figure it out

Your points are correct, and I'm pretty confident the team will keep him through the season; however, IMO his overall skill level and potential is probably lower than 30 guys that we could go out and nab right now to replace him on the roster. Heck, I'd rather give his spot to Bitim or Lewis.

[FriedRise]

I mean what were we expecting from a guy who only averaged 8 ppg in college.

Excuse me, but Pat averaged 9 ppg in college.

[Wingy]

I mean what were we expecting from a guy who only averaged 8 ppg in college.

Excuse me, but Pat averaged 9 ppg in college.

and what were we expecting?

(I mostly jest. Mostly.)

[DASMACKDOWN]

At the expense of whose spot?

Frankly I'd strongly consider declining Terry's third year option when we have to decide at the end of this month. I'd rather roll the dice on someone else than pick up his 3.5 million for year 3. Unless we make a consolidation trade. I'd much rather see more Phillips, Williams, Bitim etc.

Carlick Jones for me. We don’t need four point guards on the active roster

If the Bulls want to duck the tax, they have to waive one of Terry Taylor or Carlik Jones prior to their guaranteed dates. You can almost guarantee they'll do that (and it'd be really stupid to not do that).

If they waive both, they can bring in a different vet min player and still duck the tax (possible to keep Favors this way or someone else).

You have to keep in mind though, the tax only kicks in after the season. You could be over it and then trade away guys during the season to get under it. Teams do it all the time.

[sco]

Carlick Jones for me. We don’t need four point guards on the active roster

If the Bulls want to duck the tax, they have to waive one of Terry Taylor or Carlik Jones prior to their guaranteed dates. You can almost guarantee they'll do that (and it'd be really stupid to not do that).

If they waive both, they can bring in a different vet min player and still duck the tax (possible to keep Favors this way or someone else).

You have to keep in mind though, the tax only kicks in after the season. You could be over it and then trade away guys during the season to get under it. Teams do it all the time.

I've been wrong before on guys' developmental curves before. They develop at different rates. I think the question about exercising Terry's option comes down to 2 things:

1) Do we see more potential with Terry than we do with the myriad of g-league and intl talent that we could go out and get and give a chance on a 1+1 min deal? Say Bitim for example.

2) What is the opportunity cost of the difference between $3.5M and a min deal for next season (coupled with maybe getting Ball's deal off the books with "medical retirement")?

[dougthonus]

You have to keep in mind though, the tax only kicks in after the season. You could be over it and then trade away guys during the season to get under it. Teams do it all the time.

Well, the waived Jones, like I figured so it's a moot point now.

Yes, you could look to do a money saving trade later, but I just didn't think that is likely given you have a way out now that costs you no assets. Why would you put yourself in position to give up an asset to save money later, even if it's just a small one? I think you'd have had to have been really, really high on both Terry Taylor and Carlik Jones to do that, and as it turns out, I guess we weren't.

[HomoSapien]

Personally, I think Terry Taylor has been solid out there. He’s absolutely undersized, but seems to constantly be in the middle of a lot activity. Also seems like a good rebounder with good hands.

[Bandit King]

If Terry could learn to be a good PG and make hustle plays he can be a good player.

His strength is passing the ball.

[Brothaman33]

If Terry could learn to be a good PG and make hustle plays he can be a good player.

His strength is passing the ball.

Yea this is where I sit with him.

To answer the question, no, I don't think he is an NBA level talent BUT, if I were to develope him...it would be as a large point forward who can handle the ball a bit a guard multiple positions. I would develope him as a PG.

I was trying to find comparisions... I was kinda thinking late Warriors Igoudala? Be smart, play D, handle the ball, only take open 3's at a...32, 33% clip?

I dunno, I just don't think he's talented enough.

[sco]

If Terry could learn to be a good PG and make hustle plays he can be a good player.

His strength is passing the ball.

Yea this is where I sit with him.

To answer the question, no, I don't think he is an NBA level talent BUT, if I were to develope him...it would be as a large point forward who can handle the ball a bit a guard multiple positions. I would develope him as a PG.

I was trying to find comparisions... I was kinda thinking late Warriors Igoudala? Be smart, play D, handle the ball, only take open 3's at a...32, 33% clip?

I dunno, I just don't think he's talented enough.

I think his dribbling and passing skills are way ahead of his shooting. Ideally we can use him as expiring salary filler on a mid-season deal. Short of that, the best move is let him be the G-league PG and see how he progresses this season, and unless he achieves NBA level skill, just let his deal expire next offseason.

[MalagaBulls]

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[Risk Addict]

I like Demar. I think he is a good guy and a good player. I think you can win with him as a top 2 scoring option in the NBA today if surrounding him with the right pieces. That being said….

Of the guys that work out with him in the summer, do we see those players improve or regress? I feel like whatever he has guys doing may not actually help their games that much. Maybe we should have all our players go to Johnny dribble too much. At least they’d have an nba level skill then. I’d rather have a player get a less important skill than work on their weakness and show zero improvement

[Hangtime84]

I like Demar. I think he is a good guy and a good player. I think you can win with him as a top 2 scoring option in the NBA today if surrounding him with the right pieces. That being said….

Of the guys that work out with him in the summer, do we see those players improve or regress? I feel like whatever he has guys doing may not actually help their games that much. Maybe we should have all our players go to Johnny dribble too much. At least they’d have an nba level skill then. I’d rather have a player get a less important skill than work on their weakness and show zero improvement

Johnny is Demar and CP3 ball handing trainer

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I think it's best for Dalen. And if a 2nd year, mid 1st round NBA player doesn't absolutely just ball out against G-Leaguers that's pretty much the nail in the coffin. This is the league Carlik Jones torched.

[MrFortune3]

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He needs to stay down there and be allowed to play consistently.

[GoBlue72391]

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I think it's best for Dalen. And if a 2nd year, mid 1st round NBA player doesn't absolutely just ball out against G-Leaguers that's pretty much the nail in the coffin. This is the league Carlik Jones torched.

Spoiler Alert: He won't. That's not his game nor is he capable of volume scoring, really at any level.

I imagine he'll average 12-14 PPG on below average efficiency, a good amount of turnovers, but also a decent amount of assists and rebounds.

[GoBlue72391]

https://www.nbcsportschicago.com/nba/chicago-bulls/__trashed-4/515534/

We have to decide on his 3rd-year player option by tomorrow. I think we'll pick it up, but we probably shouldn't. I do think he's at risk of not having his 4th-year option picked up next year if he isn't in the rotation or traded by then.

[dougthonus]

https://www.nbcsportschicago.com/nba/chicago-bulls/__trashed-4/515534/

We have to decide on his 3rd-year player option by tomorrow. I think we'll pick it up, but we probably shouldn't. I do think he's at risk of not having his 4th-year option picked up next year if he isn't in the rotation or traded by then.

I'd probably let him go now. He looks hopelessly far away from being an NBA player.

[League Circles]

https://www.nbcsportschicago.com/nba/chicago-bulls/__trashed-4/515534/

We have to decide on his 3rd-year player option by tomorrow. I think we'll pick it up, but we probably shouldn't. I do think he's at risk of not having his 4th-year option picked up next year if he isn't in the rotation or traded by then.

I'd probably let him go now. He looks hopelessly far away from being an NBA player.

I think there's a very substantial chance that AK is going to do the right thing and decline his option tomorrow. I think that's why he's being sent down to Windy City.

[GoBlue72391]

https://www.nbcsportschicago.com/nba/chicago-bulls/__trashed-4/515534/

We have to decide on his 3rd-year player option by tomorrow. I think we'll pick it up, but we probably shouldn't. I do think he's at risk of not having his 4th-year option picked up next year if he isn't in the rotation or traded by then.

I'd probably let him go now. He looks hopelessly far away from being an NBA player.

I think there's a very substantial chance that AK is going to do the right thing and decline his option tomorrow. I think that's why he's being sent down to Windy City.

I think we'll pick up his 3rd-year option for two reasons: for AKME to save face and to use his contract as a small salary filler in a potential trade.