PG: Coby show on ESPN but fall short

Post #21 » by **DASMACKDOWN** » Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:22 am

GoBlue72391 wrote:Start Drummond, shut down Vuc, and sign a backup C. Honestly, that's what we should do if we're actually trying to maximize our chances of winning.

We pretty much would be better with just about any rim running shot-blocking 7 footer. We need to take flyers on Jaxson Hayes types. We dont need them to score. Just rebound, protect the rim and shoot 60-70% from inside the paint.

kodo · Post #22 » by **kodo** » Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:22 am

I knew Vucevic was trash, but I feel bad for Coby White he did everything needed to deliver a win.
Favorite call of the night: "Vucevic couldn't control the pass because it hit him in the hands..."

19 point swing between when Drummond was in the game vs Vucevic. And shout out to Billy for playing Vuc 40 minutes.
And TBH...Drummond is a league min center. It gets much better than even Andre.

nekorajo · Post #23 » by **nekorajo** » Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:24 am

Seriously, is Donovan a better NBA coach than DelNegro?

GoBlue72391 · Post #24 » by **GoBlue72391** » Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:24 am

Guru wrote:Vuc has a role. He is very good at many things....but as you said they aren't putting him in a position to succeed. I'd love to see them just flop roles with Drummond.

I really think Donovon doesn't understand when to challenge.

He can't catch, he can't finish bunnies, he can't shoot, he provides nothing on defense, and he's whiney and brings bad body language and bad vibes, but yeah it's Billy's fault.

I swear, you're just playing the role of contrarian.

Guru · Post #25 » by **Guru** » Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:27 am

Vuc has had a double double in a ridiculous amount of games. Acting like he doesn't have values is just nonsense

Mk0 · Post #26 » by **Mk0** » Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:28 am

DASMACKDOWN wrote:
GoBlue72391 wrote:Start Drummond, shut down Vuc, and sign a backup C. Honestly, that's what we should do if we're actually trying to maximize our chances of winning.

We pretty much would be better with just about any rim running shot-blocking 7 footer. We need to take flyers on Jaxson Hayes types. We dont need them to score. Just rebound, protect the rim and shoot 60-70% from inside the paint.

Which is telling because Jaxson Hayes is legitimately one of the dumbest players in the league. The guy is who everyone thought Javale McGee was. That said, any rim runner would be an improvement. Just look how effective Drummond is. It is all about role and fit.

* Speaking of role/fit, have you seen Gafford now that he is in Dallas? Dude is feasting on junk rebounds and lobs. He looks amazing.

Stratmaster · Post #27 » by **Stratmaster** » Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:28 am

GoBlue72391 wrote:
WindyCityBorn wrote:
DASMACKDOWN wrote:Vooch absolutely killed us this game. 9pts 8rebs 4-15 and a -11 on the floor. Worst on team.

Vuc shouldn’t even be on this team,

It'll never happen, but we would be better off if we sent him home and salary dumped him in the offseason.

Lol. You're on a roll.

And I get accused of hot takes.

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Mk0 · Post #28 » by **Mk0** » Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:30 am

nekorajo wrote:Seriously, is Donovan a better NBA coach than DelNegro?

Vinny Del Negro's Ninja Scroll never left the UC. It was hidden behind a poster in the HC office. Hoiberg found it and texted Billy when he got the job. This is now fact.

MrSparkle · Post #29 » by **MrSparkle** » Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:30 am

Guru wrote:Vuc has a role. He is very good at many things....but as you said they aren't putting him in a position to succeed. I'd love to see them just flop roles with Drummond.

I really think Donovon doesn't understand when to challenge.

I'll agree to the extent that Vuc shouldn't regularly play 4th quarters, unless he's making buckets.

madvillian · Post #30 » by **madvillian** » Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:30 am

DASMACKDOWN wrote:
GoBlue72391 wrote:Start Drummond, shut down Vuc, and sign a backup C. Honestly, that's what we should do if we're actually trying to maximize our chances of winning.

We pretty much would be better with just about any rim running shot-blocking 7 footer. We need to take flyers on Jaxson Hayes types. We dont need them to score. Just rebound, protect the rim and shoot 60-70% from inside the paint.

We could use a guy like Daniel Gafford.

Stratmaster · Post #31 » by **Stratmaster** » Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:31 am

Billy had to try his small ball lineup long enough to give up a lead.

Vuc sucked.

Some stupid turnovers.

Insisting on one player taking the last shot, whoever it is, is stupid and easy to defend. I would have loved to have seen a play ruin for a corner 3 from Ayo... using White, Vuc and DDR as decoys. But that's just me.

But all in all, a well played, horribly coached game.

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Post #32 » by **DASMACKDOWN** » Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:31 am

Read on Twitter

Mk0 · Post #33 » by **Mk0** » Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:32 am

madvillian wrote:
DASMACKDOWN wrote:
GoBlue72391 wrote:Start Drummond, shut down Vuc, and sign a backup C. Honestly, that's what we should do if we're actually trying to maximize our chances of winning.

We pretty much would be better with just about any rim running shot-blocking 7 footer. We need to take flyers on Jaxson Hayes types. We dont need them to score. Just rebound, protect the rim and shoot 60-70% from inside the paint.

We could use a guy like Daniel Gafford.

lmao we could really use most of the roster that AKME traded away :lol:

Post #34 » by **DASMACKDOWN** » Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:34 am

Read on Twitter

Stratmaster · Post #35 » by **Stratmaster** » Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:34 am

Billy: I put him (Coby) in the first option (on the last play).

Crowing about it like it was genius.

You were down 3 Billy. Everyone in the freaking arena, watching on TV, or just following the play by play knew he was going to be the first option.

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meekrab · Post #36 » by **meekrab** » Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:34 am

Guru wrote:Vuc has had a double double in a ridiculous amount of games. Acting like he doesn't have values is just nonsense

Acting like his rebounds mean anything besides "he's tall and camps the paint on defense" is just nonsense.

GoBlue72391 · Post #37 » by **GoBlue72391** » Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:35 am

Stratmaster wrote:
GoBlue72391 wrote:
WindyCityBorn wrote:
Vuc shouldn’t even be on this team,

It'll never happen, but we would be better off if we sent him home and salary dumped him in the offseason.
Lol. You're on a roll.

And I get accused of hot takes.

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It's not even a hot take. Lukewarm at best. It's just the harsh reality that we're not ready to acknowledge. If it isn't apparent yet, it will be by next season.

Indomitable · Post #38 » by **Indomitable** » Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:35 am

DASMACKDOWN wrote:Vooch absolutely killed us this game. 9pts 8rebs 4-15 and a -11 on the floor. Worst on team.

His lack of composure is the worst part.

Mk0 · Post #39 » by **Mk0** » Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:35 am

DASMACKDOWN wrote:

Read on Twitter

Coby: Did I make the right play?
DDR: Yeah, he should have converted that
Coby: You sure? It went out of bounds. That had to be my bad, no way he doesn't score there if the pass is good.

watches the replay
re-watches the replay
re-re-watches the replay
re-re-re-watches the replay

GoBlue72391 · Post #40 » by **GoBlue72391** » Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:36 am

Guru wrote:Vuc has had a double double in a ridiculous amount of games. Acting like he doesn't have values is just nonsense

As always, the one and only Vuc argument always resorts back to raw counting stats, because he has nothing else in his favor. Drummond gets an assload of double-doubles too and he's basically on a minimum contract.