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Re: Step 1 of a rebuild is to fire AKME 

Post#261 » by MalagaBulls » Mon Nov 27, 2023 4:43 pm

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Re: Step 1 of a rebuild is to fire AKME 

Post#262 » by Dan Z » Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:18 pm

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That makes it sound like AK won't do anything other than expect the players to "figure it out".

Sigh.
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Re: Step 1 of a rebuild is to fire AKME 

Post#263 » by Mbrahv0528 » Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:35 pm

Wingy wrote:Let’s say the 13 game losing streak occurs. We’re 4/13th of the way there.

I doubt it due to night to night variables, back to backs, injuries (eg -Jrue, Kristaps), unpredictable energy in our favor one way or another, load management, etc - but let’s say none of that happens and we get there. It’s within the realm of possibility given the schedule.

Does that force AK to speak at a non-traditional point in time?

What do we think it will take for them to come out from underground?
1. We won't lose 13 in a row
2. It's kind of strange to assume we will and then ask what we do then.

What if we don't lose 13 in a row, what do you do then?

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Re: Step 1 of a rebuild is to fire AKME 

Post#264 » by Wingy » Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:47 pm

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MalagaBulls wrote:AKME & BD safe.


That makes it sound like AK won't do anything other than expect the players to "figure it out".

Sigh.


Crazy. There is no singular word that can capture the absurdity.

The root cause is and long has been the ownership group. The responsibility rolls downhill and is put on those least responsible.

These players have their flaws, but they didn’t assemble themselves.

So we really do need at very least some crazy 13-15 game losing streak to potentially shake management awake.
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Re: Step 1 of a rebuild is to fire AKME 

Post#265 » by JockItch43 » Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:48 pm

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That makes it sound like AK won't do anything other than expect the players to "figure it out".

Sigh.



Of course… same approach since Lonzo went down years ago and exposed the flaws of this roster construction. The very definition of insanity, repeating the same thing over and over.

Never thought AK would turn out to be even worse than GarPax.
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Re: Step 1 of a rebuild is to fire AKME 

Post#266 » by Wingy » Mon Nov 27, 2023 6:17 pm

Mbrahv0528 wrote:
Wingy wrote:Let’s say the 13 game losing streak occurs. We’re 4/13th of the way there.

I doubt it due to night to night variables, back to backs, injuries (eg -Jrue, Kristaps), unpredictable energy in our favor one way or another, load management, etc - but let’s say none of that happens and we get there. It’s within the realm of possibility given the schedule.

Does that force AK to speak at a non-traditional point in time?

What do we think it will take for them to come out from underground?
1. We won't lose 13 in a row
2. It's kind of strange to assume we will and then ask what we do then.

What if we don't lose 13 in a row, what do you do then?

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1. Yeah, I said “I doubt it…” and laid out a bunch of reasons why.
2. It’s a hypothetical. Shall we only talk about specific real world happenings and forgo hypotheticals on an internet message board?
3. We’ll do nothing, AK’s default since his initial plan fell apart.
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Re: Step 1 of a rebuild is to fire AKME 

Post#267 » by coldfish » Mon Nov 27, 2023 6:27 pm

I hadn't really considered the "don't do anything at all plan." Its so crazy it might work!

OK, not really.
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Re: Step 1 of a rebuild is to fire AKME 

Post#268 » by JimmyButler21 » Mon Nov 27, 2023 6:31 pm

coldfish wrote:I hadn't really considered the "don't do anything at all plan." Its so crazy it might work!

OK, not really.

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Post#269 » by HomoSapien » Mon Nov 27, 2023 6:40 pm

coldfish wrote:I hadn't really considered the "don't do anything at all plan." Its so crazy it might work!

OK, not really.


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Re: Step 1 of a rebuild is to fire AKME 

Post#270 » by Wingy » Mon Nov 27, 2023 6:44 pm

HomoSapien wrote:
coldfish wrote:I hadn't really considered the "don't do anything at all plan." Its so crazy it might work!

OK, not really.


Everyone knows the best defense is lying down and pretending you're dead.


We need a meme of AK chilling with some possums.
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Re: Step 1 of a rebuild is to fire AKME 

Post#271 » by d boy gentleman » Mon Nov 27, 2023 9:01 pm

everyone already knows that AKME went "all in" in the Summer of 2021 and it didn't work out. I don't think they had much of a plan after that. Should they be fired, then who's the replacement? Bob Meyers? I know that he's a favorite among Bulls fans however

a. He wasn't the one that drafted Steph, Klay or Draymond. His picks have been Moody, Kuminga and Wiseman who is no longer with the team.

b. Bulls ownership is not Warriors ownership.

I don't think getting rid of AK would solve anything if the same owners are still the owners.

The aptly named "mid 3" needs to be broken up via trade. I've been a proponent of keeping Zach and getting rid of Deebo and Vooch and adding a second scorer and players that compliment Zach. I think Zo and Zach would work well together, but obviously Zo's future is in jeopardy. Kyrie Irving/ Jalen Brunson type player would work well next to Zach. Honestly, Coby has shown flashes, but he's not the level of the aforementioned guys.

In any case, it's much more complex than simply firing AK and Marc
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Re: Step 1 of a rebuild is to fire AKME 

Post#272 » by MalagaBulls » Tue Nov 28, 2023 5:26 pm

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Re: Step 1 of a rebuild is to fire AKME 

Post#273 » by Andi Obst » Tue Nov 28, 2023 6:13 pm

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Re: Step 1 of a rebuild is to fire AKME 

Post#274 » by MalagaBulls » Tue Nov 28, 2023 6:23 pm

Andi Obst wrote:
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Re: Step 1 of a rebuild is to fire AKME 

Post#275 » by DuckIII » Tue Nov 28, 2023 7:21 pm

d boy gentleman wrote:everyone already knows that AKME went "all in" in the Summer of 2021 and it didn't work out. I don't think they had much of a plan after that. Should they be fired, then who's the replacement?


Whoever gets hired. And I’m totally fine with that.
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Re: Step 1 of a rebuild is to fire AKME 

Post#276 » by DuckIII » Tue Nov 28, 2023 7:22 pm

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In fairness to AK, he’s not running he’s hiding.
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Re: Step 1 of a rebuild is to fire AKME 

Post#277 » by d boy gentleman » Tue Nov 28, 2023 7:32 pm

DuckIII wrote:
d boy gentleman wrote:everyone already knows that AKME went "all in" in the Summer of 2021 and it didn't work out. I don't think they had much of a plan after that. Should they be fired, then who's the replacement?


Whoever gets hired. And I’m totally fine with that.


And what difference does that make? Jerry Reinsdorf will still be the owner. Or, do you simply want a GM that is going to trade everyone for scraps just to make you feel good and think they're doing something?
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Re: Step 1 of a rebuild is to fire AKME 

Post#278 » by Wingy » Sun Dec 3, 2023 2:47 am

Remember when some people got excited because they thought we were gonna get Moe Wagner in a trade, but then flipped him for Javonte?!

Moe is absolutely killing it as a key offensive bench piece aiding Orlando’s rise.

7th best in the entire league with a 70.4 TS%, and sporting a 21+ PER.

Loved Javonte in a vacuum, but isn’t that so AK to choose a 6’4” guy over a 6’11” guy?

Always comedy looking back at an AK move.
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Re: Step 1 of a rebuild is to fire AKME 

Post#279 » by coldfish » Sun Dec 3, 2023 4:18 pm

Random comment that could go in a number of threads: Trading people around isn't a teardown, as I have said. The team stinks as is and is horribly constructed.

If you trade Lavine and Vucevic for just role players, I suspect the team would actually be better in the short term and have a much better future.
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Re: Step 1 of a rebuild is to fire AKME 

Post#280 » by DuckIII » Sun Dec 3, 2023 5:09 pm

d boy gentleman wrote:
DuckIII wrote:
d boy gentleman wrote:everyone already knows that AKME went "all in" in the Summer of 2021 and it didn't work out. I don't think they had much of a plan after that. Should they be fired, then who's the replacement?


Whoever gets hired. And I’m totally fine with that.


And what difference does that make?


Them not being here anymore.

Jerry Reinsdorf will still be the owner. Or, do you simply want a GM that is going to trade everyone for scraps just to make you feel good and think they're doing something?


You clearly have no idea what my opinions are. "Doing something" rather than being patient is precisely how we got into this ridiculous situation in the first place. I want to get rid of The 3 and then do very little.
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