Stratmaster wrote:PaKii94 wrote:Indomitable wrote:He is still passed about Lauri.
Oh yeah I am pissed still. Especially now that we all have the benefit of hindsight.
Stat- I brought up Lavine because you compare Coby to Lavine lite and like I said I agree to an extent. 90% of the rest of my posts are factual stats that you glossed over just to point out that "I keep bringing up Lavine"
Also why I brought up Lavine is because your recent takes on Coby started off as:
1) "Coby is good, but you guys are impressed by a few games? Lavine did this for years and y'all hating on him" - no. Lavine scored efficiently for years but he didn't run the team well for years.
Once no one cared about that take and cared about Lavine on the roster anymore, the next take became:
2) "Coby is good but not an all star yet"
I agreed with this take. When Lavine went down Coby did have a hot stretch. I didn't expect him to keep up curry volume and efficiency either. BUT it was a step up in his game and that has sustained since even if the efficiency hasn't kept up at that level. Which brings us to your latest take
3) "Coby isn't doing anything different/special. This is just 2020 Coby with slightly better shooting"
That's what the current discussion was for. I said 2020 Coby was Lavine lite. This Coby is a different player. That's when you got Lavine blinders and only focused on that aspect.
I told you it's ingenuous to look at the overall season averages because obviously Coby's role expanded since Lavine is out. I understand it's still a relatively small sample size so if you want to wait to change your opinion that's fine. That's a perfectly fine response.
BUT to be ignoramus and continue to double down on the 2020 Coby = current Coby take is ridiculous. I even gave you examples of multiple good advanced stats that show FOR THE SEASON AVERAGE that Coby's IMPACT on winning has increased a lot since 2020 even if his raw numbers haven't changed. If you filter it on when Coby's role changed, the change in impact is even more dramatic. But I didn't provide those numbers because yes, it is a smaller sample size.
But obviously you ignored that because "you mentioned Lavine how dare you?!? You hater!!" Take out any mention of Lavine from my posts and my takes still stand if you are willing to move past the Lavine stuff.
In the end my point is 2020 Coby was a frustrating player who's only impact was hot shooting. Current Coby is doing much more. Maybe not at a legit all star level (and maybe not at Zach's peak volume/ efficiency/ longevity) but we can acknowledge his growth none the less.
Disclaimer: I did vote for Coby for all star not because I thought he would get it but because I thought he deserved some votes for being a breath of fresh air on a team that was rapidly going to the gutter. Also because sometimes I am a bulls fanatic
No. YOU brought up Lavine and mentioned Lavine lite here before I ever did. No point in discussing with you. You just make **** up.
Again ignore the lavine stuff and respond to the coby stats. You won't
