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FriedRise wrote:

HomoSapien wrote:

FriedRise wrote:
Pretty much.

6-8mo will put us in October - so at or around training camp. He's gonna need some ramp-up time before he can regain his form. At the earliest, we're talking next year's trade deadline and that's if there's no setback and he can somehow play up to his normal levels.

Realistically, I think they'll have to do this in summer 2025 if they want to get actual value and not a salary dump.

They're saying 4-6 months.

Whoops, had the numbers "6-8" in my head for some reason. So he'll have a month or so before training camp starts.

DASMACKDOWN wrote:Wait a minute. So this has nothing to do with his rolled ankle. This was the foot that already healed?

This has Klutch written all over it.

Come on Zach. The dude has been a model professional his whole career. But ever since Klutch got their stinking fingers on him, he has been a Stepford wife for Klutch.

Dan Z wrote:

FriedRise wrote:

HomoSapien wrote:
They're saying 4-6 months.

Whoops, had the numbers "6-8" in my head for some reason. So he'll have a month or so before training camp starts.

I hope that month is enough time for him to shake off some rusty. It's possible that the Bulls start next year with a rusty Zach and super rusty Lonzo.

LateNight wrote:

ChettheJet wrote:I tend to believe the Bulls knew this was coming and that's why they haven't made any moves yet. Wait until the last day, see who is the most desperate and get what you can. The 3 year plan starts now.

I think you wave goodbye to DeRozan, Caruso and Carter, Vucevic if possible and start looking at next year.
Finish with Williams, White, Dosunmu, Drummond, Craig, Terry, Phillips, Taylor and some new guys. You hope for Lonzo, a healthy Zach and the draftee next year

I’m on board for trading everybody - not on board for playing Terry Taylor or hoping for Lonzo / Zach returning.

Maybe Lonzo, but I’m done with Zach

MalagaBulls wrote:60M or half the CAP in "Street Clothes". Wonderful.

ChiTownHero1992 wrote:

Dan Z wrote:

FriedRise wrote:
Whoops, had the numbers "6-8" in my head for some reason. So he'll have a month or so before training camp starts.

I hope that month is enough time for him to shake off some rusty. It's possible that the Bulls start next year with a rusty Zach and super rusty Lonzo.

God help us all if they are both still in the line-up or even in consideration for being in the line-up on opening night.

Andi Obst wrote:There's no chance you can trade Zach, there's no chance you're improving the team in a meaningful way. DeRozan is expiring, Caruso's value is at an all-time high.

Not trading DeMar and Caruso within the next couple of days would be insanely dumb. The will never do it, of course, but still. Can't wait for the excuses after the season.

Rose2Boozer wrote:Tough. Lavine will be a Bull for the remainder of his contract.

madvillian wrote:I don't want this to come off the wrong way but after reading he consulted with his agency: **** THIS GUY.

You're a loser Zach and you always will be. YOU PUT IN THE TRADE REQUEST AND NOW THAT IT ISN'T TO LA YOU'RE QUITTING ON THE TEAM! **** YOU.

WestsideResider wrote:Since Lonzo went down every move this team has made(and not made) has been like watching a trainwreck happen in slow motion

ScrantonBulls wrote:This may be me being irrational and emotional, but **** Klutch, **** Rich Paul and **** LeBron and his stupid pet-project. Klutch decided that he should need surgery bugs the hell out of me. This reminds me of the Derrick Rose saga where his agent and Reggie Rose did their own thing and didn't listen to the team. This feels like something he could have played through and gotten surgery later on. I wonder if a trade was in the works to a team he didn't like?

Again, probably irrational on my part. I dislike Klutch/Rich Paul more than Scott Boras now.

FriedRise wrote:Man, what a tough season this has been for Zach.

Your teammates questioning your effort/leadership.
Your FO trying to trade you non-stop.
Then when you've finally had enough, you asked for a trade only to realize that no team in the league wants you outside of a salary dump.
Then you get injured a month into the season, out for 6-8 weeks.
Got healthy, tried to fit in and play the right way because your team is rolling, only to get injured again a few games later.
And now close to the deadline, realizing that the only realistic option everyone's talking about is about you ending up in f'n Detroit.
Season-ending injury, out 6-8 months.

I feel for the guy. He's been nothing but a pro in his time here in Chicago, but I feel like he just keeps getting put in impossible situations that aren't entirely his fault. Yeah we're terrible on defense and don't have a PG, so we need you to facilitate and play defense - and we're gonna severely judge you on that. Hey AK, how about you sign a real PG and a rim protector instead so your elite scorer can focus on you know, scoring at an elite level? No? Oh continuity, alright then.