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dougthonus wrote:

DuckIII wrote:Signing Javonte does not help this team now because all there is now is the postseason, and his impact whatever it is will fall dramatically short of elevating this team to being able to win a series against any one.

I think it's quite possible that Javonte could be a difference maker in the play-in tournament or helping them get home court for the play-in tournament.

You can argue whether that matters or not, but I think it's value is not absolutely zero.

And we differ there. It is zero. The play in tournament is created out of nothing purely for financial purposes. They are make believe postseason games tacked onto a real postseason that was already inviting 16 out of 30 teams to the party. Now it’s 20!

But it worked. Look how many people attribute value to it. It’s the pet rock of professional sports.

We're not giving up anything here.

We’re probably not giving up anything here. There are less than 500 players in the NBA. The talent pool is every other eligible man on Earth. And many of them are capable of playing interior defense with height at an NBA level. They exist. Given the upside to signing Javonte is at most between zero and very little, these are the types of things our FO should do if competent.

It even help us with matchups, which is one of our biggest weaknesses for postseason play, if we are trying to win. Javonte may well add depth in a redundant way, which on some minor level is helpful, but he actually makes our matchup problem even worse.

I’ve always liked Javonte as an end of the bench energy guy that you put in when you need a change of pace. I also like him when he’s playing guard or small forward. I don’t like him at the 4 and I don’t like that Torrey Craig’s minutes have suddenly been cut in half. Not sure if that’s because of Javonte or an injury, but we all know how much BD loves Green.

All that said, Green makes this current roster better. Not necessarily because he’s fantastic, but because Terry, Carter, and Taylor aren’t good and Bitim isn’t ready. I also think that Green could be a difference maker in the play-in-tournament. He eliminates those guys from the rotation (assuming he’s on the team) and can be a spark plug. Not hard to envision that being the difference in a close game between fairly evenly matched opponents.

HomoSapien wrote:I’ve always like Javonte as an end of the bench energy guy that you put in when you need a change of pace. I also like him when he’s playing guard or small forward. I don’t like him at the 4 and I don’t like that Torrey Craig’s minutes have suddenly been cut in half. Not sure if that’s because of Javonte or an injury, but we all know how much BD loves Green.

All that said, Green makes this current roster better. Not necessarily because he’s fantastic, but because Terry, Carter, and Taylor aren’t good and Bitim isn’t ready. I also think that Green could be a difference maker in the play-in-tournament. He eliminates those guys from the rotation (assuming he’s on the team) and can be a spark plug. Not hard to envision that being the difference in a close game between fairly evenly matched opponents.

Brilliantly put!

IMO our biggest problem over the past few years hasn't been about the Zach's and Demar's of the world, it's been that we've had 3-4 guys in our rotation who aren't rotation-level talents. I think this is a key reason that young teams (not us per se) struggle for so long. You can probably get away with one, maybe two, guys who suck but are "developing" in the rotation, but 3+ hurts both through additional mistakes and missed shots, but also the additional wear and tear on other guys playing big minutes. I certainly want Terry to improve, but he's a hustle guy with a very limited skillset that doesn't include shooting. Javante Green is an elite defender and makes few mistakes offensively. I didn't want him back, like you said, because Billy can't help but play him at PF, but being as depleted as we are, he gives the same sort of lift that Pat Bev gave us last season...addition through subtraction.

Today is Day 10 of that 10-day contract. They have to sign him to another 10-day, don't they? He's just too good and impactful for this team.

Let me get this straight - so Javonte CAN play in the play-in / playoffs because he wasn't waived by an NBA team prior to this signing? Googling the subject and it seems to be the case that NBA playoff eligibility mostly applies to players who were waived.

FriedRise wrote:Today is Day 10 of that 10-day contract. They have to sign him to another 10-day, don't they? He's just too good and impactful for this team.

Let me get this straight - so Javonte CAN play in the play-in / playoffs because he wasn't waived by an NBA team prior to this signing? Googling the subject and it seems to be the case that NBA playoff eligibility mostly applies to players who were waived.

I don’t think any of us know for sure (in regards to the hardship exception), as the rules about this aren’t clearly spelled out online. It seems likely that he’s eligible simply because he was never waived. Plus, you have to assume that it’d be a waste of time to play Javonte like this if there were no plans to have him available for the playoffs/play-in. There are two big questions: 1.) Is Julian Phillips going to actually return this season? 2.) If he does, who will we waive to keep Green?

“ladies and gentlemen… we got him”

Terry Taylor was also waived…

Fully guaranteed Terry Taylor for no reason at all in January only to release him now.

AK has a new fan!

LateNight wrote:“ladies and gentlemen… we got him”

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That's good news!

I feel like if you have guys like Caruso and Green, you need two of them due to higher than average injury rates for tough defenders.

sco wrote:

LateNight wrote:“ladies and gentlemen… we got him”

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That's good news!

I feel like if you have guys like Caruso and Green, you need two of them due to higher than average injury rates for tough defenders.

And now with this signing we have 6.

Look, I don't see any other team signing 5 players this late in the season. AK Executive of the Year!

Andi Obst wrote:Fully guaranteed Terry Taylor for no reason at all in January only to release him now.

AK has a new fan!

I really don’t get it.

LateNight wrote:“ladies and gentlemen… we got him”

talk about a proto-meme. in fact, this may have actually been the first meme.

I’d rather have Green than Taylor, but we didn’t have to waive him just yet. We still have access to the hardship exception. At this point are we sure Philips even returns this season?

Bulls are undefeated when Green plays 16 minutes or more in a game (please don't check that this has only happened once).

I do wonder if we would have won that Washington game (which we lost by 2 points) if we had given some of Terry and Carter's minutes to Green.

Is it a problem that our success could be influenced so much by a guy signed in April? Probably, but here we are.

6-game win streak incoming to finish 42-40 and then lose the play-in game.

Andi Obst wrote:Fully guaranteed Terry Taylor for no reason at all in January only to release him now.

AK has a new fan!

Also turning Bitim into a regular contract instead of keeping him as a 2-way.

AK is a weird dude lol.

Can't go wrong with an energy/hustle guy

R3AL1TY wrote:Can't go wrong with an energy/hustle guy

Dalen Terry anyone?

Javonte is also skilled, athletic and a natural PF albeit undersized.