Should Coby Keep Taking So Many Charges?

[Wingy]

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WTF?

Coby defends more rim FGA than just about any guard in the league. Unsurprisingly, he's not effective at it given fairly ordinary size/athleticism + short arms.

I'd immediately point to Vuc being one of the worst bigs at the job, and probably having to cover for DeMar/Zach letting guys stroll to the rim, not getting back, etc.

[Stratmaster]

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WTF?

Coby defends more rim FGA than just about any guard in the league. Unsurprisingly, he's not effective at it given fairly ordinary size/athleticism + short arms.

I'd immediately point to Vuc being one of the worst bigs at the job, and probably having to cover for DeMar/Zach letting guys stroll to the rim, not getting back, etc.

Yep. Always getting beat up for little return.

But I am not sure that graph is telling you what you think it is as it's "compared to expected". I don't know what expected is for a PG. 10% more than expected could be 1 every 3 games.

[Wingy]

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WTF?

Coby defends more rim FGA than just about any guard in the league. Unsurprisingly, he's not effective at it given fairly ordinary size/athleticism + short arms.

I'd immediately point to Vuc being one of the worst bigs at the job, and probably having to cover for DeMar/Zach letting guys stroll to the rim, not getting back, etc.

Yep. Always getting beat up for little return.

But I am not sure that graph is telling you what you think it is as it's "compared to expected". I don't know what expected is for a PG. 10% more than expected could be 1 every 3 games.

I’m more concerned that he’s such an outlier compared to other PGs. Only Cade’s in the neighborhood and that can’t be a good thing.

Interestingly DeMar’s pretty high up amongst fwds. But yes, it would be interesting to see the raw data for more context.

[sco]

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WTF?

Coby defends more rim FGA than just about any guard in the league. Unsurprisingly, he's not effective at it given fairly ordinary size/athleticism + short arms.

I'd immediately point to Vuc being one of the worst bigs at the job, and probably having to cover for DeMar/Zach letting guys stroll to the rim, not getting back, etc.

Yep. Always getting beat up for little return.

But I am not sure that graph is telling you what you think it is as it's "compared to expected". I don't know what expected is for a PG. 10% more than expected could be 1 every 3 games.

I’m more concerned that he’s such an outlier compared to other PGs. Only Cade’s in the neighborhood and that can’t be a good thing.

Interestingly DeMar’s pretty high up amongst fwds. But yes, it would be interesting to see the raw data for more context.

I think it has to do with Billy's focus this season on team rebounding (to cover for Vuc) and has the guards in the paint more. I wonder if guard-based rim defense went down while Vuc was out...although there were the minutes with AD was out.

[Stratmaster]

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WTF?

Coby defends more rim FGA than just about any guard in the league. Unsurprisingly, he's not effective at it given fairly ordinary size/athleticism + short arms.

I'd immediately point to Vuc being one of the worst bigs at the job, and probably having to cover for DeMar/Zach letting guys stroll to the rim, not getting back, etc.

Yep. Always getting beat up for little return.

But I am not sure that graph is telling you what you think it is as it's "compared to expected". I don't know what expected is for a PG. 10% more than expected could be 1 every 3 games.

I’m more concerned that he’s such an outlier compared to other PGs. Only Cade’s in the neighborhood and that can’t be a good thing.

Interestingly DeMar’s pretty high up amongst fwds. But yes, it would be interesting to see the raw data for more context.

Agreed

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[Stratmaster]

Quick update.

In the first 23 games Coby took 7 charges.
In the 19 games since I started this thread, he has taken 0.

[Wingy]

Quick update.

In the first 23 games Coby took 7 charges.
In the 19 games since I started this thread, he has taken 0.

Well, he has clearly become a diva like the cancerous Zach Lavine. My friend’s brother’s ex-colleague heard they go around together shoving the elderly.

[PaKii94]

Quick update.

In the first 23 games Coby took 7 charges.
In the 19 games since I started this thread, he has taken 0.

Well, he has clearly become a diva like the cancerous Zach Lavine. My friend’s brother’s ex-colleague heard they go around together shoving the elderly.

It's obviously Zach telling him stars don't take charges. And then Coby saw jabari Parker's quote on how players aren't paid for defense

[rosenthall]

Quick update.

In the first 23 games Coby took 7 charges.
In the 19 games since I started this thread, he has taken 0.

Well, he has clearly become a diva like the cancerous Zach Lavine. My friend’s brother’s ex-colleague heard they go around together shoving the elderly.

It's obviously Zach telling him stars don't take charges. And then Coby saw jabari Parker's quote on how players aren't paid for defense

Would guess (and hope) his lack of charge taking is due to the fact that he's become a 40 MPGish player who needs to play both sides of the floor, and it takes a lot to sustain yourself doing that over the course of a season. No reason to risk injury or foul trouble just for a charge.

[Stratmaster]

Quick update.

In the first 23 games Coby took 7 charges.
In the 19 games since I started this thread, he has taken 0.

Well, he has clearly become a diva like the cancerous Zach Lavine. My friend’s brother’s ex-colleague heard they go around together shoving the elderly.

Yeah. They are partners in crime for sure. Trade them both now.

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[Stratmaster]

Well, he has clearly become a diva like the cancerous Zach Lavine. My friend’s brother’s ex-colleague heard they go around together shoving the elderly.

It's obviously Zach telling him stars don't take charges. And then Coby saw jabari Parker's quote on how players aren't paid for defense

Would guess (and hope) his lack of charge taking is due to the fact that he's become a 40 MPGish player who needs to play both sides of the floor, and it takes a lot to sustain yourself doing that over the course of a season. No reason to risk injury or foul trouble just for a charge.

Thank you! You get it.

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[Wingy]

Thank you! You get it.

I mean, I’m pretty sure I’ve seen him try since this thread. Just gets called for a block.

[Stratmaster]

Thank you! You get it.

I mean, I’m pretty sure I’ve seen him try since this thread. Just gets called for a block.

He has. And to be clear, I never said he should never take a charge because I would never say never.

It was OBVIOUS despite the meat head mockery in here that he could not continue to play the way he was and survive the season. Blatantly obvious. As he continued to struggle to get up off the floor after getting run over.

The subject wasn't brought up in a vacuum.

And I wouldn't be reviving this all the time if it wasn't for the **** responses by a few who think they know everything while not being able to see the obvious.

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