ballerkingn2 wrote:ok what in the world got me banned for a week. it claim it was due to personal shots or something like that. Which is just ludicrous and really untrue,if it was a mod here that banned me. Now if it was a mod here it shows 1 of the mod really isn't using there power in the right way. I think it was only because i don't agree with everyone views or i respond to other people personal shots at me. I should be able to debate or discuss issue with anyone about a player or myself,without using profanity . So please if someone here banned me,please can you explain to me what i typed that got me banned for a week. Please don't be scared, we can discuss this like men.
Lets make this clear:
A "mod" didn't suspend you for a week. The discussion of suspension or ban involves participation of all the Bulls mods -- there are currently 8 of us, plus any input retired mods wish to put in -- in this case, at least 2. That is a 10 person discussion before approaching the administrators (or at least 1 administrator -- Howard Mass) with a recommendation, who then reviews the entire situation and reaches a decision, often with additional discussion with the moderating crew and after a review of past warnings and suspensions, etc. (Not every mod participates in every discussion, such is life -- but I think most, if not all chimed in on this case).
We've communicated by email but I add this comment on this thread because even though we've explained all this before, this misconception that a moderator can suspend or ban a poster by himself and can do so out of spite or a personal agenda simply isn't true -- at least here on the RealGm Bulls board. Other sites are clearly different. But here, we go to great lengths to make sure that doesn't happen. Sometimes we reach a very quick consensus. Other times, discussions can get quite heated and drawn out. We, as a crew, are never shy about calling out another mod when we think a reaction is out of line. We check each other. While we are all friends and colleagues, I'm not kidding when I tell you the checking can get occasionally pretty frank and pointed. F bombs get dropped. Resignations get tendered. It can be Total Drama Island sometimes. Not often, but sometimes. We all care. Sometimes to a fault. We care a lot.
Even that system isn't perfect because no system is perfect. But I will put our moderating up against any board, anywhere, in terms of fairness and all out effort to get it right.
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I don't want to get too much into your individual situation here on a public thread, but you expressed confusion here about the explanation about "personal attacks" and your belief that any such assertion was untrue. Here is a sampling from the posts leading up to your suspension:
"How long have you been a bulls fan,i've watched them for 10 years straight now"
"its clear to me your either being funny or your blind."
"are your serious is all i got to say to your response not even worth me breaking it down."
"I'm losing more and more respect for you with ever come back. At least make sense."
"get yours eyes check."
"Oh weren't you one of the people i was arguing about signing BW at that time,and i was saying no and you was saying yes. Now how did that signing work out. I beat your before in an argument i don't know why you trying to battle me again."
You edit those comments out from the remainder of the posts they were from and you are fine. The addition of the potshots, taken in context with the whole of your post history, warnings and previous suspensions, got you in trouble. Your reputation from other boards preceded you as well. You get less slack when you have a negative history, as opposed to someone who has a good rep and has an isolated incident.
PS. FWIW, I, for one, am not out to get you. I have communicated with you here and by email because I was relatively neutral about your situation and the group seemed to think I was a good candidate to speak for the team. Honestly, I'd rather see you take the advice to self-edit the editorial potshots and stick to expressing your views without belittling others and have you stick around for the long run. I hope you can do that.