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I’m going to double down on my original post that he is an NBA player. He’s still far from being a rotation player, but it’s easy enough to see how he can impact a game when he refines his strengths.

Hangtime84 wrote:

burlydee wrote:This board is always like is Coby an NBA level player? Than he becomes one. Is Pat Will? Becomes one. Ayo? Becomes one. Markannen? Carter? How many times can this board be wrong on a young player?

He just needs to hit his open shots

If he can defend and hit open 3s at a decent rate, he'll get playing time. His naturally aggressive mindset will hopefully accelerate his development moreso compared to Pat, who's had to be consistently coaxed out of his shell.

Just like any young player, he needs 10-14mpg where he can play his game and make his mistakes without needing to worry too much about getting yanked. He was pressing a ton when he first started getting minutes, but I thought he's calmed down a bit now once he's been inserted into a normal rotation. But of course those minutes aren't always gonna be there. Once we start getting people back, back to the bench he'll go.

Terry can play he just needs playing time Coby pat ayo & terry are keepers

Dalen Terry is at that stage where he just needs more NBA minutes to develop. But he still isn't good enough to crack a healthy rotation to get those minutes. And sending him back down to the incubator league won't improve his game, but just keep him active.

I chose yes, but he's still not a rotational player yet. Sure as hell not a player to be seen on a playoff roster unless the injury bug hits a team at the worst time.

Maybe he'll get there in another 3 years once he drastically improves on the only career path he has in this league - 3&D and hustle wing. And it might not happen on the Bulls either, but I guess we'll have to see how PWill's next contract works out...

He isn't. There are gobs of guys who aren't in the NBA who are better. His offense is just not NBA ready. Can he become one? I'll say unlike guys who I put on his current caliber like Marko, Terry has the physical tools to become one, but he needs to develop multiple offensive skills to get there. I'm rooting for him, but right now, looks like a wasted pick and I'd rather be giving those minutes to Phillips who looks a little further along.

Guru wrote:There are so many people very loudly wrong on this board.

I was one of the few who liked the Dalen Terry pick and even I think this is an absurd statement to make at this point.

He's played like what, 10-15 total NBA games outside of garbage time? Too small of a sample size to make any kind of conclusion one way or the other, though the fact that he's a season and a half into his NBA career and only has a few dozen of non-garbage time NBA minutes probably says a lot about his development thus far.

He's contributed with his energy and activity in recent games, but his NBA career hinges on his ability to knockdown open threes. If he can learn to do that he'll stick in the league. If he can't, he'll struggle to get a guaranteed second contract. And he's yet to make any notable progress in that regard.

And for the record, when this thread was made I voted "yes," but I've been saying the same thing since day 1: he has to develop a 3 ball.

Charlesareed wrote:Terry can play he just needs playing time Coby pat ayo & terry are keepers

How do we know Dalen Terry is a keeper when he's only played 16 NBA games in his career where he played 10 minutes or more?

GoBlue72391 wrote:

Charlesareed wrote:Terry can play he just needs playing time Coby pat ayo & terry are keepers

How do we know Dalen Terry is a keeper when he's only played 16 NBA games in his career where he played 10 minutes or more?

Well the fact that he hasn't played more with this garbage roster says something.

Guru wrote:There are so many people very loudly wrong on this board.

You might be right. There is one at minimum.

DuckIII wrote:

Guru wrote:There are so many people very loudly wrong on this board.

You might be right. There is one at minimum.

I'm not foreclosing on a thing. There is a rush to be the first to name someone a bust. It's silly. Terry is a very good end of a rotation player already with the athletic upside to be a star. He was a great pick.

Guru wrote:

DuckIII wrote:

Guru wrote:There are so many people very loudly wrong on this board.

You might be right. There is one at minimum.

I'm not foreclosing on a thing. There is a rush to be the first to name someone a bust. It's silly. Terry is a very good end of a rotation player already with the athletic upside to be a star. He was a great pick.

And you're literally the polar opposite of the type of person you're criticizing. Equally as silly, as you put it. Actually no, you're a lot more silly.

I'm sorry, but you're delusional if you think he has star potential. His ceiling is a 3&D energy hustle guy who can double as a secondary/tertiary playmaker. So like a 5th starter or 7th to 9th man.

I like that type of jack-of-all-trades gadget type of player, but he'll never be a star and both with hindsight and in the moment it was clear that we should have drafted Walker Kessler.

GoBlue72391 wrote:

Guru wrote:

DuckIII wrote:
You might be right. There is one at minimum.

I'm not foreclosing on a thing. There is a rush to be the first to name someone a bust. It's silly. Terry is a very good end of a rotation player already with the athletic upside to be a star. He was a great pick.

And you're literally the polar opposite of the type of person you're criticizing. Equally as silly, as you put it. Actually no, you're a lot more silly.

I'm sorry, but you're delusional if you think he has star potential. His ceiling is a 3&D secondary playmaker.

His elite athleticism alone gives him star potential. What keeps him from being a star are his skills. Much easier for an elite athlete to build skills than a skilled non athlete to become a star. In fact skills almost always build with playing time.

I don't think he will be a star. I think he can be a star.

Guru wrote:

GoBlue72391 wrote:

Guru wrote:
I'm not foreclosing on a thing. There is a rush to be the first to name someone a bust. It's silly. Terry is a very good end of a rotation player already with the athletic upside to be a star. He was a great pick.

And you're literally the polar opposite of the type of person you're criticizing. Equally as silly, as you put it. Actually no, you're a lot more silly.

I'm sorry, but you're delusional if you think he has star potential. His ceiling is a 3&D secondary playmaker.

His elite athleticism alone gives him star potential. What keeps him from being a star are his skills. Much easier for an elite athlete to build skills than a skilled non athlete to become a star. In fact skills almost always build with playing time.

I don't think he will be a star. I think he can be a star.

Elite athleticism? Dalen Terry? Elite athleticism? I'm baffled, truly baffled.

GoBlue72391 wrote:

Guru wrote:

GoBlue72391 wrote:And you're literally the polar opposite of the type of person you're criticizing. Equally as silly, as you put it. Actually no, you're a lot more silly.

I'm sorry, but you're delusional if you think he has star potential. His ceiling is a 3&D secondary playmaker.

His elite athleticism alone gives him star potential. What keeps him from being a star are his skills. Much easier for an elite athlete to build skills than a skilled non athlete to become a star. In fact skills almost always build with playing time.

I don't think he will be a star. I think he can be a star.

Elite athleticism? Dalen Terry? Elite athleticism? I'm baffled, truly baffled.

Watch him play defense. Watch someone try to beat him off the dribble. Watch anyone else on the court playing the same. He's the most fluid, and that includes AC. Maybe not the best on D because of smarts etc. But the most agile

Guru wrote:

GoBlue72391 wrote:

Guru wrote:
His elite athleticism alone gives him star potential. What keeps him from being a star are his skills. Much easier for an elite athlete to build skills than a skilled non athlete to become a star. In fact skills almost always build with playing time.

I don't think he will be a star. I think he can be a star.

Elite athleticism? Dalen Terry? Elite athleticism? I'm baffled, truly baffled.

Watch him play defense. Watch someone try to beat him off the dribble. Watch anyone else on the court playing the same. He's the most fluid, and that includes AC. Maybe not the best on D because of smarts etc. But the best.

That's your criteria for someone having star potential?

He has an extremely high motor and is a vocal/expressive guy who can rally his teammates with his energy, but his athleticism is middling at best, especially for a player of his position and role.

Can be a glue bench player that's his limit.

Still a complete 0 on offense.

He deserves credit for his energy, which really helps on defense, but he has a long way to go before he can actually help. He shouldn't play...but I get why he has to.

He has to work on his offensive game more or else he'll just be a filler bench guy in for 10-12 mins when certain better players are injured.

Lots of us reference 'IQ' a lot with different Bulls players. I think DT is an example where I haven't recognized some nuance in 'IQ' and maybe a jump to want to project it to just energy/hustle.

These last few games, where he's had real minutes, I feel like DT is one of those guys that has a pretty advanced defensive IQ. It's not just that he has athleticism that translates to defense (he does), or he's playing with extra level energy and commitment (which he is), but I genuinely believe he has very good natural instincts on defense. I'm just a fan, I don't play (been in a wheelchair since 14), so I respect the views of those with more experience on the court themselves, but watching his focus on defense I really believe there's a level of technical intelligence he's playing defense with right now; the kind of level that will allow him to quickly develop into the specialist stopper that you can put on top players. (Billy is already showing that transition in trust ... he put him on Maxey for stretches last game).

Now, the interesting thing with this is ... he is pretty much on opposite side of spectrum with his offensive IQ. He does not have the instincts, he doesn't look comfortable, if the ball is in his hands for more than 2-3 seconds you got a good wager he's going to make a flawed decision to end his possession. So a way to cover that is to coach him to play quickly ... take transition opps soon as they come, make the next pass soon as you get it, pull trigger quickly on a catch and 3 wide open shot (even if you're % is poor right now ... take it the wide open ones). It limits his potential for negative plays, which in the end increases the attention we see from his growing defensive play.

I do think he's shown he CAN be an NBA level player. He is right now (evaluating based off a 3-4 games that is). But that doesn't mean he will stick in the league. Of course, like most 1-2 year guys, he's gotta CONTINUE developing (I say 'continue' because he clearly shown development from pretty close to zero value to now).

For example, I think a optimistic but still realistic player comp for his future is Thabo. Lengthy, back of bench guy, plays during shorter spurts and exerts a lot of energy and peskiness during those stretches. Thabo had a valuable offensive game and an average shooting reliability, so DT needs to develop that to at least stick around long term.

I'm excited for each time he gets subbed in right now, so that's saying something about his value/progress.

RastaBull wrote:Lots of us reference 'IQ' a lot with different Bulls players. I think DT is an example where I haven't recognized some nuance in 'IQ' and maybe a jump to want to project it to just energy/hustle.

These last few games, where he's had real minutes, I feel like DT is one of those guys that has a pretty advanced defensive IQ. It's not just that he has athleticism that translates to defense (he does), or he's playing with extra level energy and commitment (which he is), but I genuinely believe he has very good natural instincts on defense. I'm just a fan, I don't play (been in a wheelchair since 14), so I respect the views of those with more experience on the court themselves, but watching his focus on defense I really believe there's a level of technical intelligence he's playing defense with right now; the kind of level that will allow him to quickly develop into the specialist stopper that you can put on top players. (Billy is already showing that transition in trust ... he put him on Maxey for stretches last game).

Now, the interesting thing with this is ... he is pretty much on opposite side of spectrum with his offensive IQ. He does not have the instincts, he doesn't look comfortable, if the ball is in his hands for more than 2-3 seconds you got a good wager he's going to make a flawed decision to end his possession. So a way to cover that is to coach him to play quickly ... take transition opps soon as they come, make the next pass soon as you get it, pull trigger quickly on a catch and 3 wide open shot (even if you're % is poor right now ... take it the wide open ones). It limits his potential for negative plays, which in the end increases the attention we see from his growing defensive play.

I do think he's shown he CAN be an NBA level player. He is right now (evaluating based off a 3-4 games that is). But that doesn't mean he will stick in the league. Of course, like most 1-2 year guys, he's gotta CONTINUE developing (I say 'continue' because he clearly shown development from pretty close to zero value to now).

For example, I think a optimistic but still realistic player comp for his future is Thabo. Lengthy, back of bench guy, plays during shorter spurts and exerts a lot of energy and peskiness during those stretches. Thabo had a valuable offensive game and an average shooting reliability, so DT needs to develop that to at least stick around long term.

I'm excited for each time he gets subbed in right now, so that's saying something about his value/progress.

Love it. He is pretty clearly already an NBA level player in a rotation. He needs to develop certainly but when you put a player in you want him to stress the other team offensively or defensively. He's doing that already.