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This thread is bound to be disappointing, but let's have a separate thread for Bulls related rumors so that things don't get lost in the other threads. I'll start us off:

I'm so tired of this team...Tired of watching the same guys playing .500 ball for over 3 years...ready to move on...

I just want a couple of trades, just to see something different...

But guess what?! I dont believe in AKME...So im expecting a quiet deadline for the Bulls. No moves

#CONTINUITY

I will dance in the streets if DDR gets traded.

Should add Drummond and get a solid 1st.

Make the new core to build with sink or swim. Coby Pat Ayo would have to carry us. If they don’t we get a good pick.

Love DDR but he has to go

Chi town wrote:I will dance in the streets if DDR gets traded.

Should add Drummond and get a solid 1st.

Make the new core to build with sink or swim. Coby Pat Ayo would have to carry us. If they don’t we get a good pick.

I do wonder how many 1st round picks we'd be able to get from Philly if we traded them DeRozan, Caruso, and Drummond. We'd basically be gifting them a championship if Embiid returns. They also have the salaries to absorb both DeRozan and Vuc.

Framework for two possible deals:

DeRozan, Vuc, and Taylor or Craig for draft capital, Marcus Morris, Batum, Covington, and Paul Reed

or

DeRozan, Caruso, and Drummond for draft capital, Morris, Covington, and Batum

We're giving up a lot of talent and really positioning Philly well here. I would look for like 5 future picks in this scenario, even if they are spread out over the next 15 years.

Does it count as a rumour if I know that they won't make any moves at the deadline? Because 'they have enough'.

Source: the last 2 deadlines.

Prediction: Kyle Lowry gets bought out and signs with the Bulls (that'll be their big after 'deadline' deal).

HomoSapien wrote:

Chi town wrote:I will dance in the streets if DDR gets traded.

Should add Drummond and get a solid 1st.

Make the new core to build with sink or swim. Coby Pat Ayo would have to carry us. If they don’t we get a good pick.

I do wonder how many 1st round picks we'd be able to get from Philly if we traded them DeRozan, Caruso, and Drummond. We'd basically be gifting them a championship if Embiid returns. They also have the salaries to absorb both DeRozan and Vuc.

Framework for two possible deals:

DeRozan, Vuc, and Taylor or Craig for Draft Capital, Marcus Morris, Batum, Covington, and Paul Reed

or

DeRozan, Caruso, and Drummond for Draft Capital, Morris, Covington, and Batum

We're giving up a lot of talent and really positioning Philly well here. I would look for like 5 future picks in this scenario, even if they are spread out over the next 15 years.

Pretty sure Philly can only trade 3-4 FRPs they currently have.

Muzbar wrote:Does it count as a rumour if I know that they won't make any moves at the deadline? Because 'they have enough'.

Source: the last 2 deadlines.

Prediction: Kyle Lowry gets bought out and signs with the Bulls (that'll be their big after 'deadline' deal).

This is my prediction as well.

Muzbar wrote:

HomoSapien wrote:

Chi town wrote:I will dance in the streets if DDR gets traded.

Should add Drummond and get a solid 1st.

Make the new core to build with sink or swim. Coby Pat Ayo would have to carry us. If they don’t we get a good pick.

I do wonder how many 1st round picks we'd be able to get from Philly if we traded them DeRozan, Caruso, and Drummond. We'd basically be gifting them a championship if Embiid returns. They also have the salaries to absorb both DeRozan and Vuc.

Framework for two possible deals:

DeRozan, Vuc, and Taylor or Craig for Draft Capital, Marcus Morris, Batum, Covington, and Paul Reed

or

DeRozan, Caruso, and Drummond for Draft Capital, Morris, Covington, and Batum

We're giving up a lot of talent and really positioning Philly well here. I would look for like 5 future picks in this scenario, even if they are spread out over the next 15 years.

Pretty sure Philly can only trade 3-4 FRPs they currently have.

Is there a limit for how far out draft picks can be traded? If so, I'd supplement with pick swaps. Either way, if we walk out of this deadline with 3 first-round picks and expiring contracts that's a win.

You guys are in a big hurry to lose more, huh?

_txchilibowl_ wrote:You guys are in a big hurry to lose more, huh?

Yes, at least there would be light at the end of the tunnel.

AKME

MissileMike wrote:

_txchilibowl_ wrote:You guys are in a big hurry to lose more, huh?

Yes, at least there would be light at the end of the tunnel.

Or just deeper, darker darkness. That's the far more likely scenario...

_txchilibowl_ wrote:

MissileMike wrote:

_txchilibowl_ wrote:You guys are in a big hurry to lose more, huh?

Yes, at least there would be light at the end of the tunnel.

Or just deeper, darker darkness. That's the far more likely scenario...

I'm not a fan of tanking, especially since it feels like we're starting over so often. But I'd rather bottom out than be stuck in play-in territory with an aging core.

Let's bottom out, and just feature Coby, Ayo, Williams, Terry, and Phillips.

HomoSapien wrote:

Muzbar wrote:

HomoSapien wrote:
I do wonder how many 1st round picks we'd be able to get from Philly if we traded them DeRozan, Caruso, and Drummond. We'd basically be gifting them a championship if Embiid returns. They also have the salaries to absorb both DeRozan and Vuc.

Framework for two possible deals:

DeRozan, Vuc, and Taylor or Craig for Draft Capital, Marcus Morris, Batum, Covington, and Paul Reed

or

DeRozan, Caruso, and Drummond for Draft Capital, Morris, Covington, and Batum

We're giving up a lot of talent and really positioning Philly well here. I would look for like 5 future picks in this scenario, even if they are spread out over the next 15 years.

Pretty sure Philly can only trade 3-4 FRPs they currently have.

Is there a limit for how far out draft picks can be traded? If so, I'd supplement with pick swaps. Either way, if we walk out of this deadline with 3 first-round picks and expiring contracts that's a win.

No more than 5 years in advance I believe.

HomoSapien wrote:

_txchilibowl_ wrote:

MissileMike wrote:
Yes, at least there would be light at the end of the tunnel.

Or just deeper, darker darkness. That's the far more likely scenario...

I'm not a fan of tanking, especially since it feels like we're starting over so often. But I'd rather bottom out than be stuck in play-in territory with an aging core.

Let's bottom out, and just feature Coby, Ayo, Williams, Terry, and Phillips.

I'd rather maintain the roster, mediocre or not, and make the play-in. Nothing develops a player faster than winning. Just like nothing stunts a players growth faster than losing.

HomoSapien wrote:

Read on Twitter

Looks like bulls have dance partners for DDR AD AC but not for Vuc

_txchilibowl_ wrote:

HomoSapien wrote:

_txchilibowl_ wrote:

Or just deeper, darker darkness. That's the far more likely scenario...

I'm not a fan of tanking, especially since it feels like we're starting over so often. But I'd rather bottom out than be stuck in play-in territory with an aging core.

Let's bottom out, and just feature Coby, Ayo, Williams, Terry, and Phillips.

I'd rather maintain the roster, mediocre or not, and make the play-in. Nothing develops a player faster than winning. Just like nothing stunts a players growth faster than losing.

Unfortunately, we are losing more games than we are winning and being right up against the Lux Tax, which as we all know Bulls ownership is not interested in going over.

So adding assets (draft picks or young players with upside) is the only way for a brighter future.

Pax

_txchilibowl_ wrote:

HomoSapien wrote:

_txchilibowl_ wrote:

Or just deeper, darker darkness. That's the far more likely scenario...

I'm not a fan of tanking, especially since it feels like we're starting over so often. But I'd rather bottom out than be stuck in play-in territory with an aging core.

Let's bottom out, and just feature Coby, Ayo, Williams, Terry, and Phillips.

I'd rather maintain the roster, mediocre or not, and make the play-in. Nothing develops a player faster than winning. Just like nothing stunts a players growth faster than losing.

Normally I'd agree, but we've essentially been the same team for three years. We've squeezed everything out of this unit. Coby and Ayo are improving and DDR has been part of that, but at some point you have to make changes. If we don't do this now, we're going to corner ourselves into resigning DeRozan and running it back with this crew for another two years. This group just hasn't earned that type of longevity.