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Just read a quote from Justin Jefferson that seemed liked he really wants fields.
"WE HAVE TO BUILD ON FOR AFTER KIRK...
HAVING JUSTIN FIELDS BRINGS A LITTLE MORE PRESSURE TO OTHER TEAMS BY HAVING A
DOMINANT OUARTERBACK LIKE WE IS:”*
Another player with high praise of fields but what do they know
"WE HAVE TO BUILD ON FOR AFTER KIRK...
HAVING JUSTIN FIELDS BRINGS A LITTLE MORE PRESSURE TO OTHER TEAMS BY HAVING A
DOMINANT OUARTERBACK LIKE WE IS:”*
Another player with high praise of fields but what do they know
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Bears are primarily there for Jackson Powers-Johnson.
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fleet wrote:Michael Jackson wrote:Everyone wants a homerun with every at bat, but just not realistic (well maybe if I am pitching to juiced Barry Bonds that might happen if I don't hit him lol) Still... seems Poles is smartly plugging holes and upgrading. Do I love Swift? nope, but better value than Jacobs or Barkley was and I don't even like the money spent on Swift. Oddly that signing makes me think they are more on Caleb because of his ability to catch.
I don't think reading what is going on with JF1 means much of anything. I mean we love it. We ALL do. It is more interesting than the Bulls. The Bulls are so milquetoast to talk about so this is fun fun fun. I just don't think anyone has any read on it and if a person did, they would be inside circle and surely not posting on these boards and or twitter (X). We are all kinda pissing in the wind a bit but I doth love the fun of it.
One might wonder if the small signings set the next big salary add on offense. Was hoping it would be on the top center in free agency. I don't know who else is on the board. But I wouldn't mind a scenario of bringing Tee Higgins over here. Then they can just draft Dallas Turner or whoever else edge and a lot has happened to set things up well. They have spent a ton of money on defense already.
Speaking of the Bulls, If Poles is keeping the cap flexible for a future splash, that's cool too. I imagine he was telling a lot of truth when he said he always wanted to stay cap healthy. The Bears don't have to max out the cap in 2024. And the top teams are most always built through the draft, not free agency. Folks talk about all the holes like it all has to be finished up this year.
Was Higgins tagged? I think we'd have to give up two first rounders but I'm not sure.
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heir_jordan22 wrote:fleet wrote:Michael Jackson wrote:Everyone wants a homerun with every at bat, but just not realistic (well maybe if I am pitching to juiced Barry Bonds that might happen if I don't hit him lol) Still... seems Poles is smartly plugging holes and upgrading. Do I love Swift? nope, but better value than Jacobs or Barkley was and I don't even like the money spent on Swift. Oddly that signing makes me think they are more on Caleb because of his ability to catch.
I don't think reading what is going on with JF1 means much of anything. I mean we love it. We ALL do. It is more interesting than the Bulls. The Bulls are so milquetoast to talk about so this is fun fun fun. I just don't think anyone has any read on it and if a person did, they would be inside circle and surely not posting on these boards and or twitter (X). We are all kinda pissing in the wind a bit but I doth love the fun of it.
One might wonder if the small signings set the next big salary add on offense. Was hoping it would be on the top center in free agency. I don't know who else is on the board. But I wouldn't mind a scenario of bringing Tee Higgins over here. Then they can just draft Dallas Turner or whoever else edge and a lot has happened to set things up well. They have spent a ton of money on defense already.
Speaking of the Bulls, If Poles is keeping the cap flexible for a future splash, that's cool too. I imagine he was telling a lot of truth when he said he always wanted to stay cap healthy. The Bears don't have to max out the cap in 2024. And the top teams are most always built through the draft, not free agency. Folks talk about all the holes like it all has to be finished up this year.
Was Higgins tagged? I think we'd have to give up two first rounders but I'm not sure.
The 25-year-old was franchise-tagged by the Bengals after being unable to reach an agreement on a long-term deal this offseason and is now requesting a trade. The availability of the former first-round pick out of Clemson will surely draw interest from several teams around the league.....
Not only would a chance at trading for a receiver of Higgins' quality be enticing, but according to a new report from Bleacher Report's Jordan Schultz, the asking price of the Bengals may even make him a bargain.
"It's my understanding that it would take about a [second], maybe a [third-round pick], to get him," Schultz said in a recent interview on FS1's Speak. "So, if you're a Carolina or Tennessee, those are the two best fits for me if I'm trading for Tee Higgins. Not only do you have to trade a two or three, but then you have to pay him; that's a big ask, and that's why I don't believe Tee Higgins ultimately gets traded this year."
https://www.si.com/nfl/patriots/news/new-england-patriots-tee-higgins-cincinnati-bengals-trade-asking-price-revealed-worth-it-value
Brad Biggs wrote:Fields was in the bottom third of the league in too many key statistical metrics for the Bears to commit to the idea of trading down from the first pick for a bundle of future assets and then building around him.
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Bears are primarily there for Jackson Powers-Johnson.
Sure.
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“It’s really how she pulled me, man. That’s the question,” the Green Bay Packers safety, 28, said on “The Pivot” podcast on Tuesday,
“I always say that the men are the catch,” Owens replied. “She did [pull me], though, because I was fighting it. … At the time, I was afraid to commit. I was like, ‘This is my third year [in the NFL], I’m trying … it’s kind of early, but, you know, it happens when you least expect it.”
Good thing he won’t be playing much. I won’t have to root for him, lol
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Mindcrime wrote:AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:IliketheBullsNBearstoo wrote:
If this is true this is interesting.
Bears are primarily there for Jackson Powers-Johnson.
Sure.
Poles isn’t drafting “Bo Nix”.. I’d bet my last dollar on that.
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AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:
Bears are primarily there for Jackson Powers-Johnson.
Troy Franklin (WR), projected mid-2nd round, was there as well. But JPJ was probably the main draw.
TGibson (1/28/17); "..."a 4 or 5 on a scale of 1 to 10 for drama"...What's the worst? "...yelling matches with Thibs, everybody is just going crazy and I'm just sitting there...like, 'Don't call my name please..."
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fleet wrote:Nothing is for sure other than death, and Jerry Reinsdorf's tone deafness. A key obstacle to teams adding Fields this week has been said to be his contract status, the May 2 deadline for picking up that expensive option. If that's true. the Bears are not an exception to that emotion. An unnamed AFC GM in a December Charles Robinson article seemed like he knew. But as you have previously stated, one can believe what one chooses.
“The fact that we’re in Year 3 and [they] don’t want to exercise the fifth-year option tells me what I need to know.”
https://www.windycitygridiron.com/2023/12/14/24002147/unnamed-afc-gm-the-chicago-bears-arent-planning-to-pick-up-justin-fields-5th-year-option
Wait, an AFC GM knows for sure what Ryan Poles "wants" to do with Justin Fields in December of 2023? The prices of the options were not even set yet.
It is mid March of 2024, how many 5th year options have been picked up so far? Does that mean no GM's WANT to pick up 5th year options on their players and that tells us all we need to know?
The Bears were in the lead for the #1 pick in the draft. Of course they would have decisions to make.
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Off topic but the market is clearly going up right now. This is such a wild conversation
if i were Cincy, i would consider that counter.
supposedly Burrow’s injury is pretty bad, and hard to come back from.
easier to find starter QBs than WR1s.
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Hold That wrote:Mindcrime wrote:AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:
Bears are primarily there for Jackson Powers-Johnson.
Sure.
Poles isn’t drafting “Bo Nix”.. I’d bet my last dollar on that.
Most probably, but still teling in the grand scheme of things, checking every corner does not suggest they are sold on the "generational" stuff. Bears at least are doing their due deligence like they should be doing.
Edit: I mean "who led a sizable Chicago contingent" suggest to me that it is more than a checkdown on a C.
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panthermark wrote:fleet wrote:Nothing is for sure other than death, and Jerry Reinsdorf's tone deafness. A key obstacle to teams adding Fields this week has been said to be his contract status, the May 2 deadline for picking up that expensive option. If that's true. the Bears are not an exception to that emotion. An unnamed AFC GM in a December Charles Robinson article seemed like he knew. But as you have previously stated, one can believe what one chooses.
“The fact that we’re in Year 3 and [they] don’t want to exercise the fifth-year option tells me what I need to know.”
https://www.windycitygridiron.com/2023/12/14/24002147/unnamed-afc-gm-the-chicago-bears-arent-planning-to-pick-up-justin-fields-5th-year-option
Wait, an AFC GM knows for sure what Ryan Poles "wants" to do with Justin Fields in December of 2023? The prices of the options were not even set yet.
It is mid March of 2024, how many 5th year options have been picked up so far? Does that mean no GM's WANT to pick up 5th year options on their players and that tells us all we need to know?
The Bears were in the lead for the #1 pick in the draft. Of course they would have decisions to make.
The 5th year option would not even be top 15 in salary it would put him around 17th its basically a non starter as a reason they wouldn't keep him .
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chitownsports4ever wrote:panthermark wrote:fleet wrote:Nothing is for sure other than death, and Jerry Reinsdorf's tone deafness. A key obstacle to teams adding Fields this week has been said to be his contract status, the May 2 deadline for picking up that expensive option. If that's true. the Bears are not an exception to that emotion. An unnamed AFC GM in a December Charles Robinson article seemed like he knew. But as you have previously stated, one can believe what one chooses.
“The fact that we’re in Year 3 and [they] don’t want to exercise the fifth-year option tells me what I need to know.”
https://www.windycitygridiron.com/2023/12/14/24002147/unnamed-afc-gm-the-chicago-bears-arent-planning-to-pick-up-justin-fields-5th-year-option
Wait, an AFC GM knows for sure what Ryan Poles "wants" to do with Justin Fields in December of 2023? The prices of the options were not even set yet.
It is mid March of 2024, how many 5th year options have been picked up so far? Does that mean no GM's WANT to pick up 5th year options on their players and that tells us all we need to know?
The Bears were in the lead for the #1 pick in the draft. Of course they would have decisions to make.
The 5th year option would not even be top 15 in salary it would put him around 17th its basically a non starter as a reason they wouldn't keep him .
At this point in time, aside from the imo unlikely event he is a starter in Chicago, he is a ticketed backup in the NFL by all appearances. That's the problem with NFL teams paying it. As well as the particular problem in Chicago of a commitment to extending him long term because you again just bypassed the last top quarterback class you will see. Huge, expensive risk/comittment.
Brad Biggs wrote:Fields was in the bottom third of the league in too many key statistical metrics for the Bears to commit to the idea of trading down from the first pick for a bundle of future assets and then building around him.
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fleet wrote:chitownsports4ever wrote:panthermark wrote:Wait, an AFC GM knows for sure what Ryan Poles "wants" to do with Justin Fields in December of 2023? The prices of the options were not even set yet.
It is mid March of 2024, how many 5th year options have been picked up so far? Does that mean no GM's WANT to pick up 5th year options on their players and that tells us all we need to know?
The Bears were in the lead for the #1 pick in the draft. Of course they would have decisions to make.
The 5th year option would not even be top 15 in salary it would put him around 17th its basically a non starter as a reason they wouldn't keep him .
At this point in time, aside from the imo unlikely event he is a starter in Chicago, he is a ticketed backup in the NFL by all appearances. That's the problem with NFL teams paying it. As well as the particular problem in Chicago of a commitment to extending him long term because you again just bypassed the last top quarterback class you will see. Huge, expensive risk/comittment.
Yeah, you wonder to what extent the contract timing here is really driving down Fields' value. You have to decide on the 5th year option before he takes a snap for your team. The 5th year option isn't *that* much, but it's sure way too much for a backup.
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Hunter to the Texans for 2 years, $49 million.
Ugh. Seems like a pretty reasonable deal for him.
Ugh. Seems like a pretty reasonable deal for him.
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fleet wrote:chitownsports4ever wrote:panthermark wrote:Wait, an AFC GM knows for sure what Ryan Poles "wants" to do with Justin Fields in December of 2023? The prices of the options were not even set yet.
It is mid March of 2024, how many 5th year options have been picked up so far? Does that mean no GM's WANT to pick up 5th year options on their players and that tells us all we need to know?
The Bears were in the lead for the #1 pick in the draft. Of course they would have decisions to make.
The 5th year option would not even be top 15 in salary it would put him around 17th its basically a non starter as a reason they wouldn't keep him .
At this point in time, aside from the imo unlikely event he is a starter in Chicago, he is a ticketed backup in the NFL by all appearances. That's the problem with NFL teams paying it. As well as the particular problem in Chicago of a commitment to extending him long term because you again just bypassed the last top quarterback class you will see. Huge, expensive risk/comittment.
The Bears haven't picked up the 5th year option because they definitely dont want to pick up the 5th year option.
That Bears haven't traded Fields because they definitely don't want to trade Fields.
Those are the two polar opposites of the spectrum. Getting to either conclusion because the scenario hasn't occurred yet is equally ridiculous.
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84 tackles, hmm. I honestly don't know the first thing about him other than his odd couple pictures. But Poles is having an impressive early focus so far on first building quality depth, laying down the connective tissue of the team with his money/efforts. How many vital organs we will add is obviously very important. But those vital organs will only go as far as the depth of this roster. How much of this approach would be done by other GMs, don't know. I think big splashes are more the norm.
Brad Biggs wrote:Fields was in the bottom third of the league in too many key statistical metrics for the Bears to commit to the idea of trading down from the first pick for a bundle of future assets and then building around him.
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Hunter signed elsewhere on a reasonable contract.
Offseason so far
Retain HC with an abysmal record
Keep JF as of today
Big signing in FA is Deandre Swift
All major defensive lineman are gone in FA
Traded for a backup guard
Aging Safety
Depth signings.
What’s this grade thus far? C- ?
Offseason so far
Retain HC with an abysmal record
Keep JF as of today
Big signing in FA is Deandre Swift
All major defensive lineman are gone in FA
Traded for a backup guard
Aging Safety
Depth signings.
What’s this grade thus far? C- ?
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