Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time

[fleet]

Gosh every pick in the second round looks like a great pick. Awesome draft to have a second.

Top centers are gone. But there still should be a starter at 75

[dice]

If we somehow traded up and got Powers-Johnson I will dance the jig.

https://www.reddit.com/r/minnesotavikings/comments/tqa9ur/pff_draft_excess_value_chart_by_position_and_round/#lightbox

moral of the story? drafting (let alone trading up for) a center in the early rounds tends to be a poor use of resources. meanwhile, the middle rounds are the value sweet spot for EDGEs

[Chicago-Bull-E]

Ton of DTs have gone, no edges yet in rd 2. Hopefully they keep falling or start getting into the range where the Bears think about moving up.

[dice]

Can one of the salary cap crunchers on this board let us know what the Bears have left to spend after the draft? Would be excited if we brought in a vet or two on the D Line.

around 10 mil last i checked

[dice]

I just realized that I haven't done any deep dives on Odunze yet. Time to go down the rabbit hole so I can get as excited as some of you are.

This is not one of those diva WR's.

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jones was solid previous season. THAT guy, unlike fields, had plenty of room to complain about supporting cast

[HearshotKDS]

Bears probably arent pairing a rookie C with rookie QB - unless its a guy with OG flexibility dont see them taking a C only in 3rd or 4th this year.

[Charlesareed]

Caleb’s twitter is awesome now.

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I’m lovin it

[fleet]

Matt Miller compares Odunze toJamar Chase

Did he say why? Cuz I don’t see that one at all.

Right? Parkins asked him if he meant Nabors. He said no, Odunze. #2 receiver, #3 in the draft. 7:25

https://omny.fm/shows/wscr-0003/matt-miller-grades-the-bears-drafting-caleb-willia

[The Evidence]

Matt Miller compares Odunze toJamar Chase

Thats such a lazy comp. DJ Moore is closer to being Jamar Chase than Odunze.

[Betta Bulleavit]

Yes, Fields was a great victim, and CJ is well informed how this team was built the last 2 years certainly. It sucks that the Bears didn’t figure that out, and get “The haul”. And more than a 6th rounder for such a victim of circumstances. Pittsburgh should have picked up Fields’ option too. All Fields needs is “more help”

They did a crap job of putting a good team around Fields and I don’t think there’s anything wrong with people acknowledging that. Does it mean that we shouldn’t have traded him? No. But the facts are what they are. Just let it go already.

those are not facts. here are some facts:

-bears O-line was 6th in the league in avg. pocket time
-bears RBs averaged well over 4 yards a carry
-bears had 2nd most rush attempts in league, which along w/ fields's running ability forced opponents to load up the box
-kmet was 9th rated TE in PFF grade
-moore was 10th rated WR

despite these strong advantages, fields was 23rd of 30 in pass QBR

3 of the things that you mentioned could be directly attributed to Fields himself. It’s like I said, this roster (as a whole) was never any better than average at any point while Fields was here. Those are the facts sir. Now, whether or not you choose to accept the facts is a secondary conversation. One that I’m simply not going to engage in any further. I will return to the discussion about guys that are here or are coming here. Thanks!

[NesimLE]

Yes, Fields was a great victim, and CJ is well informed how this team was built the last 2 years certainly. It sucks that the Bears didn’t figure that out, and get “The haul”. And more than a 6th rounder for such a victim of circumstances. Pittsburgh should have picked up Fields’ option too. All Fields needs is “more help”

They did a crap job of putting a good team around Fields and I don’t think there’s anything wrong with people acknowledging that. Does it mean that we shouldn’t have traded him? No. But the facts are what they are. Just let it go already.

those are not facts. here are some facts:

-bears O-line was 6th in the league in avg. pocket time
-bears RBs averaged well over 4 yards a carry
-bears had 2nd most rush attempts in league, which along w/ fields's running ability forced opponents to load up the box
-kmet was 9th rated TE in PFF grade
-moore was 10th rated WR

despite these strong advantages, fields was 23rd of 30 in pass QBR

The question is, what are the implications of that info. The performance of his top 2 options tells us that he is capable of making throws to open targets when he sees them, at minimum. The fall off for the following targets means that there's some combination of the following:

-- targets not being open when he reaches them in his progression (which could be attributable to them not being talented enough to get open, or the routes they happen to be running being poorly designed or slow developing...which would be a Getsy offense if is the case)

-- him not reaching them in his progression (this is either him being slow through his reads (more likely), him not having enough time in the pocket (occasionally happened, but not the average case at least) or poor coaching)

-- him not seeing reads as open when he reaches them (or not being willing or able to throw to guys who are 'NFL open'...this would be the most damning I'd think, either as coaching or talent limitation)

More talent and a different OC would've given us the chance to eliminate some of those options from the list of possibilities. But as has already been concluded, the QB(s) available this year were too good to pass up for a guy who in the best case, had question marks about his processing speed, time to throw, and ability to throw guys open. Throwing more talent and scheme at the problem would've likely been a band-aid at best...and a window for contention even if Fields was sufficient, would've been limited to 2 or 3 seasons before contracts started coming due.

[fleet]

Matt Miller compares Odunze toJamar Chase

Thats such a lazy comp. DJ Moore is closer to being Jamar Chase than Odunze.

I think the gist of it was, strong body type, ball fighter, overall quality as a receiver. I’ll havebto hi back and relisten, there might’ve been something about separation ability.

[HoopsterJones]

Jalyx Hunt is the top rated Edge on the board. Do the Bears draft him?

[fleet]

Trice goes ahead of the Bears in the third. Wow

[Howling Mad]

There's nobody that sticks out in a position of need. BPA.

[Howling Mad]

The tackle from Yale, Kiran Amegadie. Don't know much about him, just read... swing tackle guy, can play guard. Braxton is still the starter, IMO. This guy will play cause of injuries.

[HoopsterJones]

Kind of a reach on that OT

[panthermark]

Needed OL and DL help so it is what it is. Whatever....

[HearshotKDS]

Like the OT pick, hes probably an upgrade at swingtackle over Borom but has crazy physical traits so has upside as a good starter if he can hit his ceiling. Can probably play guard at a decent level early in his career too so has Poles beloved versatility.

[fleet]

Nice pick. Glad to see a true left tackle added. Competition. Time for the Borum experience to start winding down. The Bears want an option to paying Braxton Jones big money coming up.