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Re: If we must.... DENG TRADES (merging)

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 4:29 am
by DmoneyH3
Rudy, Martell, Raef, Future 1st
For
Deng
Does that work for both sides? I'm not a big Rudy homer and think he will want bigger minutes than he is going to get in PDX. It also slims Portland' roster down to a nice 9 man rotation. It would not be wise for Portland to just sign him in 09, because we'd have way too much talent and not enough room.

Re: If we must.... DENG TRADES (merging)

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:05 am
by Clint Eastwood
DmoneyH3 wrote:Rudy, Martell, Raef, Future 1st
For
Deng
Does that work for both sides? I'm not a big Rudy homer and think he will want bigger minutes than he is going to get in PDX. It also slims Portland' roster down to a nice 9 man rotation. It would not be wise for Portland to just sign him in 09, because we'd have way too much talent and not enough room.


it certainly doesnt work for the bulls. and i suspect with the portland boards obsession with fernandez, they wouldnt trade him for lebron...

Re: If we must.... DENG TRADES (merging)

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:00 pm
by The Evidence
I'm down for a Deng+Hinrich to LAL deal for Odom+Farmar.

Gives us immediate cap relief, especially once Hughes is off the books for the wild summer of 2010.

Sure the rest of the NBA will never forgive us, but if we're able to sign LeBron in 2010, who cares?

Re: If we must.... DENG TRADES (merging)

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:37 pm
by Vlade4life
How about Odom, Farmar, and Ariza for Deng and Gooden? I'd gladly take Hinrich instead of Gooden, but I don't think Chicago really does that. I think they'd rather try to move him on his own if they're going to.

Re: If we must.... DENG TRADES (merging)

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:40 pm
by BullsIn20Ten
The Evidence wrote:I'm down for a Deng+Hinrich to LAL deal for Odom+Farmar.

Gives us immediate cap relief, especially once Hughes is off the books for the wild summer of 2010.

Sure the rest of the NBA will never forgive us, but if we're able to sign LeBron in 2010, who cares?


i don't really like criticizing other people's posts but you cant be serious??

trade our two best players for a pg who would take minutes away from rose and for Odom? thats the stupidest trade ever if the bulls did that i would never be a fan again...

Deng and Hinrich>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>Farmar Odom

and no we will not ever get Lebron if he leaves Cleveland he will be going to new york or the nets

Re: If we must.... DENG TRADES (merging)

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:41 pm
by waffle
Vlade4life wrote:How about Odom, Farmar, and Ariza for Deng and Gooden? I'd gladly take Hinrich instead of Gooden, but I don't think Chicago really does that. I think they'd rather try to move him on his own if they're going to.


Ugh

I am far from anti-trade. I think Deng and BG have potentially painted themselves into a corner (play hardball with Jerry? Bad idea) but most of the deals we can come up with that work are very yucky.

The above particularly. I don't want any of those players.

DESPITE it's complexity, I think our best bet is to somehow land another disgruntled RFA in a 3-way trade somehow. I still like the idea of targeting Iggy. At least I could see him being productive rather than just a body to make the salaries work.

Re: If we must.... DENG TRADES (merging)

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:04 pm
by The Evidence
BullsIn20Ten wrote:
The Evidence wrote:I'm down for a Deng+Hinrich to LAL deal for Odom+Farmar.

Gives us immediate cap relief, especially once Hughes is off the books for the wild summer of 2010.

Sure the rest of the NBA will never forgive us, but if we're able to sign LeBron in 2010, who cares?


i don't really like criticizing other people's posts but you cant be serious??

trade our two best players for a pg who would take minutes away from rose and for Odom? thats the stupidest trade ever if the bulls did that i would never be a fan again...

Deng and Hinrich>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>Farmar Odom

and no we will not ever get Lebron if he leaves Cleveland he will be going to new york or the nets


Macherie, I'm well aware that Deng+Hinrich >>> Odom+Farmar in terms of productive talent. This is a business deal. We'd be dumping both Odom & Farmar after one season.

The whole idea behind my trade proposal was to unload salary since nobody on the current FA market is going to drastically improve our chances.

http://www.realgm.com/src_freeagents/2010/

There is a crapton of talent outside of LeBron available for 2010. Even if we dont get LBJ persay, there will be much better impact players available on the market than the current crop of RFAs and FAs. If we're going to be in a semi-rebuilding mode with Rose and Tyrus learning the ropes, why not create capspace and sit on it for the right summer to spend? Why overpay for average/above average talent now and handcuff ourselves for the proper summer to be spending?

Re: If we must.... DENG TRADES (merging)

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:37 pm
by AZ BLAZER
The Evidence wrote:I'm down for a Deng+Hinrich to LAL deal for Odom+Farmar.

Gives us immediate cap relief, especially once Hughes is off the books for the wild summer of 2010.

Sure the rest of the NBA will never forgive us, but if we're able to sign LeBron in 2010, who cares?


That would be one way to get Portland sitting at the trade table with ears perked up. No way KP would let Deng/Hinrich land on the LAL's for just Odom/Farmar. If something ridiculous like that was to be proposed seriously, Portland would have to take on Hughes to get Deng and sweeten the deal a little from their side. But no way JR proposes that deal to the Lakers. Heck, Portland could offer Raefs expiring and better talent than Farmar.

Re: If we must.... DENG TRADES (merging)

Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 12:06 am
by JD45
AZ BLAZER wrote:
The Evidence wrote:I'm down for a Deng+Hinrich to LAL deal for Odom+Farmar.

Gives us immediate cap relief, especially once Hughes is off the books for the wild summer of 2010.

Sure the rest of the NBA will never forgive us, but if we're able to sign LeBron in 2010, who cares?


That would be one way to get Portland sitting at the trade table with ears perked up. No way KP would let Deng/Hinrich land on the LAL's for just Odom/Farmar. If something ridiculous like that was to be proposed seriously, Portland would have to take on Hughes to get Deng and sweeten the deal a little from their side. But no way JR proposes that deal to the Lakers. Heck, Portland could offer Raefs expiring and better talent than Farmar.


Portland pretty much has to take Hughes to get enough salary to make the deal work with Deng's BYC.

Re: If we must.... DENG TRADES (merging)

Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 12:27 am
by bulletbill
Lakers went to the finals this past season W/O Bynum. So keeping that fact in mind....how about something like, Hinrich, Deng, & Noah for Odom and Bynum? Could that work $ wise? And if that's not enough, take one of their bad contracts for Gooden (then we dump Noc after).

Rose
Gordon
Odom
Ty
Bynum




for Lakers...

Hinrich
Bryant
Deng
Gooden/Noah
Gasol