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Il_Devo wrote:WOW! Im a Blazer fan and I cant believe this thread has gone on for this many pages on a BULLS board, and its a topic concerning the Blazers.

Let me tell you, from a Blazer perspective, if this deal involves the Bulls in any way, it will DEFINITELY 100% be for Hinrich and Deng.

Sonny_D1 wrote:
I'm not sure what you're asking. Mickael Pietrus last week had a game with a line of 27 points, 10 rebounds, 4 assists, 1 steal, 3 three pointers on 8/13 shooting (62%). If that was the only game you'd ever seen of Mickael, you could argue that he's one of the best players in the NBA.

Edit add: BTW, read Ben's comment above and you'll understand why I even brought up the fact that I watched those games. Perhaps your question should be directed elsewhere then?

Il_Devo wrote:WOW! Im a Blazer fan and I cant believe this thread has gone on for this many pages on a BULLS board, and its a topic concerning the Blazers.

Let me tell you, from a Blazer perspective, if this deal involves the Bulls in any way, it will DEFINITELY 100% be for Hinrich and Deng. Sorry, but no way would Portland ever take on Nocioni's contract, ever. The main piece in the trade that pushes the Blazers closer to "contention" would obviously be Deng.

And let me tell you from a Bulls perspective. There is absolutly 100% NO WAY Deng gets traded to the Blazers unless Brandon Roy or LA is coming back to the Bulls.

Hinrich is a lateral move for the Blazers. We already have Steve Blake who has a better outside shot than Hinrich but less defense, and he also costs $6 million less and has a team option for next season.

I keep hearing that from Blazer fans and it has little or no credibility, IMO. This is because its already been reported that Blazers are looking for another PG. That means they don't think Blake nor Bayless or anyone else on the Blazers is sufficient to play that position. Hinrich is NOT a lateral move. He's a significant upgrade. You won't be getting him for your bench players unless they're named Pryzbilla.

Nocioni is 29 years old and makes $8 million + for the next 5 years and he has no inside game at all. Blazers already have Batum, Webster, and Outlaw who are all under 25 years old who play SF and all three combined cost the same as Nocioni. And they all can play inside and can play defense.

Nocioni is a banger who actually rebounds the ball, brings toughness (both of which Portland's SFs don't do) and three point shooting. No matter what you think of him, he's better than any SF on the Blazers squad.

So really, the only upgrade the Blazers would get from Chicago in any deal would be DENG: a more consistent 3rd scoring option to take pressure off Roy and Aldridge, not only in the front court, but from the wing as well.

If you want Deng, you'll need to send Roy. Sorry, but you can take Deng out of every scenario save for Roy coming to Chicago.

Sorry guys, but you can take Nocioni out of every scenario... it isnt happening. And for those who think Deng wont happen either.... well you're not the owner paying him $4 million+ more a year than he is actually worth. This is a bad economy for cheap owners who dont have $30 BILLION like others do...

Leto wrote:If you want Deng, you'll need to send Roy. Sorry, but you can take Deng out of every scenario save for Roy coming to Chicago.

Il_Devo wrote:

Leto wrote:If you want Deng, you'll need to send Roy. Sorry, but you can take Deng out of every scenario save for Roy coming to Chicago.

LOL @ Deng having equal value to Brandon Roy!

Is Deng a TOP 10 player in the league?

Is Deng a multiple All-Star?

Is Deng a TOP 3 player at his position?

Is Deng the leader and face of a franchise?

You may as well think NOCIONI will get you LeBron James in a trade....

Il_Devo wrote:

Leto wrote:If you want Deng, you'll need to send Roy. Sorry, but you can take Deng out of every scenario save for Roy coming to Chicago.

LOL @ Deng having equal value to Brandon Roy!

Is Deng a TOP 10 player in the league?

Is Deng a multiple All-Star?

Is Deng a TOP 3 player at his position?

Is Deng the leader and face of a franchise?

You may as well think NOCIONI will get you LeBron James in a trade....

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