Vinnie fires back

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Vinnie fires back

Postby kyrv on Tue Mar 03, 2009 6:33 pm

Comcast - Vinnie said, paraphrasing, he'll coach the team and make decisions as he sees fit. Nobody knows this team better than he (Vinnie does). Rose will play in the 4th quarter but he wants to do things, he'll do what he wants.

His demeanor was very firm, even defiant.

(Also I think somewhere in there, reiterated, he (Vinnie) decides who plays and when.)
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Re: Vinnie fires back

Postby Rerisen on Tue Mar 03, 2009 6:38 pm

Haha. Nice try. That is all for public consumption. Vinny has to look defiant to regain his respect to the media and players after Pax figuratively slapped him to the ground. Behind close doors, he will do as told of course.

Let's just see how many more games Kirk finishes here in the near future. :wink:
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Re: Vinnie fires back

Postby sdeezy on Tue Mar 03, 2009 6:38 pm

Vinny comes across as a very stubborn dude....you can just tell
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Re: Vinnie fires back

Postby SportsWorld on Tue Mar 03, 2009 6:39 pm

Bye Vinny
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Re: Vinnie fires back

Postby BullsandBears on Tue Mar 03, 2009 6:39 pm

Well Vinny can take his defiant ass to the unemployment line if he keeps the franchise player on the bench anymore.
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Re: Vinnie fires back

Postby bullzman23 on Tue Mar 03, 2009 6:40 pm

kyrv wrote:Nobody knows this team better than he (Vinnie does).


I just don't agree.
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Re: Vinnie fires back

Postby charity stripe on Tue Mar 03, 2009 6:41 pm

BullsandBears wrote:Well Vinny can take his defiant ass to the unemployment line if he keeps the franchise player on the bench anymore.



Can't get unemployment benefits if you're fired. :lol:
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Re: Vinnie fires back

Postby kyrv on Tue Mar 03, 2009 6:43 pm

bullzman23 wrote:
kyrv wrote:Nobody knows this team better than he (Vinnie does).


I just don't agree.


That was Vinnie talking, and if it's true, we are in trouble. ;p Which, maybe we are.

I never thought that VDN would have anything other than a diplomatic response, he sounded very cocky and defiant. Given that his own flubs caused Pax to make the comments, I don't see making this an even bigger issue a good thing.

Maybe VDN was thinking, sure Pax, like you said Tyrus would play more for two seaons. ;p
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Re: Vinnie fires back

Postby Morten Jensen on Tue Mar 03, 2009 6:43 pm

If Vinny goes against Paxson on this, he is so fired. Rose will play. If not, Vinny really does not want to be an NBA head coach. It's as simple as that.

I agree with Rerisen that this is basically a chest bump from VDN to indicate he's in the charge of the players.

We'll see how this plays out.
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Re: Vinnie fires back

Postby bullzman23 on Tue Mar 03, 2009 6:46 pm

kyrv wrote:
bullzman23 wrote:
kyrv wrote:Nobody knows this team better than he (Vinnie does).


I just don't agree.


That was Vinnie talking, and if it's true, we are in trouble. ;p Which, maybe we are.

I never thought that VDN would have anything other than a diplomatic response, he sounded very cocky and defiant. Given that his own flubs caused Pax to make the comments, I don't see making this an even bigger issue a good thing.

Maybe VDN was thinking, sure Pax, like you said Tyrus would play more for two seaons. ;p


Yeah, I didn't mean to make it seem like I thought you made the comment that you know the Bulls better than anyone. Although, if you did, I would have had less disagreement with you than with Vinny ;).

If I were ranking the coaching staff, I'd probably rank him behind Oceipka and just ahead of Myers and Wilhelm. There's people on this coaching staff that probably "know" this team better than Del Negro.
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Re: Vinnie fires back

Postby kyrv on Tue Mar 03, 2009 6:52 pm

bullzman23 wrote:
Yeah, I didn't mean to make it seem like I thought you made the comment that you know the Bulls better than anyone. Although, if you did, I would have had less disagreement with you than with Vinny ;).

If I were ranking the coaching staff, I'd probably rank him behind Oceipka and just ahead of Myers and Wilhelm. There's people on this coaching staff that probably "know" this team better than Del Negro.


It's pretty big barking from the poodle who is out of the playoffs with a losing record and has had many mistakes. Maybe other people will see it, hear it. I'm curious what other people thought. The chicago tribune live guys thought he was puffy chested (of course, consider the source).
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Re: Vinnie fires back

Postby madvillian on Tue Mar 03, 2009 6:53 pm

Cool, Derrick Rose in a bidding war between management. Good job guys.
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Re: Vinnie fires back

Postby Rerisen on Tue Mar 03, 2009 6:54 pm

The thing I fear is us hanging on to Vinny to start next year then firing him sometime early in the season like we did with Skiles when the team is struggling or he appears to be losing them. If Gordon is walking there will almost certainly be a rocky adjustment period that makes a bad start more likely.

But to fire a coach early in the year like that, I hope Paxson will have learned never to do that again. Toronto tried the same thing this year with pretty similar disastrous results. If Pax has any qualms about Vinny he should just can him in the offseason.
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Re: Vinnie fires back

Postby kulaz3000 on Tue Mar 03, 2009 6:57 pm

You know what, I'm glad that Vinny is standing up for myself. It means that he isn't going to bend over for anyone.

Sure, he made the mistake of benching Rose in the fourth a few games, but it isn't like he did it the entire season, and one of those games out of 3, it was the right decision. So basically we're talking about a sample size of only about 3 games or so.

Big deal.

I want him gone, yet Vinny is showing some balls, and good for him. Sometimes you have to stand up against your GM.
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Re: Vinnie fires back

Postby pduh01 on Tue Mar 03, 2009 6:58 pm

If this is all true and VDN perform(coaching wise.) on the floor for the remainder of the season not "obeying" the GM's order even though I technically do not like GM interfear the coaches job not a big fan of. But I understand u are managing the team you are the GM and there is a line where you have to draw the line even if you have order your head coach.

I like to see the head coach and the general manage in a good relationship business wise and be on the same page. Right now if this is true that is not a good sign and things could get worse and VDN may get canned this summer even though I don't think that will happen but it may eventually happen if this whole situation make a big deal out of it.
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