Can someone pass this new curve ball to Byung-Hyun Kim ?

[superemxguy]

Hi, I am a Kim Fan, but I leave in the East coast.
Twenty years ago, I developed a new curve ball called the "flipper" ball.

I would like to share with Kim , so that he can be a better pitcher.
Hopefully someone can spread the word and the message some how can get to him.


1. Holding the ball:
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Just hold it exactly like a knuckle curve.

The reason I called it the flipper was because you hold it exactly the way you hold a knuckle curve.
But when you throw it submarine style , quess what ? It looks like a flipper

Yes , this pitch is to be thrown "submarine style", and is only for "submarine" pitcher.


2. Throwing the flipper
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I am a right hand pitcher,
so when I first practicing throwing the knuckle curve the underhand way,( I was a kid back then), I was expecting the ball to curve inside into the right hand bater. But it didn't ! It acutally performed a "Huge Curve" and moved away from a right hand batter. Not only that , if you master the flipper, the ball actually will curve "10 o'clock" direction , meaning goes away from the right hand batter and actually "RISE" up. It will rise about 6 to 9 inches.

You throw it underhand/submarine style, pretend you want to "curve" the ball inside a right hand batter and at the very very end, you pull the ball back to left side with your wrist.

"near-underhand-knuckecurve-slider"...? May be with that "thought" you will get it.

3. How the ball will move:
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If you spin outward a lot and pull back a bit and take some off , I expect a "big curve" to 9 o'clock ( about 45 degree change or 65 degree change , just like a knuckle curve would. )

By the time the ball reach the batter, it should be at 9 o'clock , 10 o'clock , 10:30 o'clock

The most "dangerous" pitch is the 10 o'clock style , cause it keep rising , which moves 'totally" the opposite direction of an underhand 2 seam fast ball.


Let me know if you are able to figure out the pitch. Any questons please let me know.


P.S if you figured out and please post on this thread.


Oh, don't ask a fat belly guy to master this, cos his belly is on the way.


This pitch would "Greatly compliment" Kim.

As a pitcher, you want

1. Velocity
2. Movement
3. Location

Kim has both Velocity and Location , so now if he add movement, he would be a great great pitcher.

[DenverDominance]

This is a Joke right?

[superemxguy]

This is a Joke right?

What make you think is a joke ?
Why don't you follow my technique and see if the ball curves.
If the ball curves than you know is not a joke.

Its either a yes or no answer.

Let me know how it goes.

And if you are a beginner pitcher, I would suggest you buy a baseball size
plastic baseball. That would greatly help your learning curve for curve ball.

You know how to hold a knuckle curve right ?
Knuckle curve is not a knucke ball by the way.
Knuckle curve is just a extreme curve ball.
It has more ball rotation which is totally opposite of a knuckle ball.
( Knuckle ball has no ball spin )

( knuckle curve has lots of ball spin )

You hold knuckle curve with your index finger knuckled/tugged in.
Leaving you with middle finger and thumb grabing the ball.

[DenverDominance]

This is a Joke right?

What make you think is a joke ?
Why don't you follow my technique and see if the ball curves.
If the ball curves than you know is not a joke.

Its either a yes or no answer.

Let me know how it goes.

And if you are a beginner pitcher, I would suggest you buy a baseball size
plastic baseball. That would greatly help your learning curve for curve ball.

You know how to hold a knuckle curve right ?
Knuckle curve is not a knucke ball by the way.
Knuckle curve is just a extreme curve ball.
It has more ball rotation which is totally opposite of a knuckle ball.
( Knuckle ball has no ball spin )

( knuckle curve has lots of ball spin )

You hold knuckle curve with your index finger knuckled/tugged in.
Leaving you with middle finger and thumb grabing the ball.

First of all-

Yes, I know what a knuck cruve i used to throw it.

Second, only a few pitchers throw a high quality knuckle cruve.

and to finish my point Byung Yung has no control at all. So if you combine a pitcher who has control problems with a pitch that is historically hard to control you get a hanging pitch that pro hitters will crush.

I never doubted that this pitch dosnt work.

[JurassicJake]

If you are serious make a video and youtube it with the pitch grip, and with it in action. And post it also on letstalkpitching.com