Tigers' farm system ranked 25th by ESPN

kellmellus50 · Post #1 » by **kellmellus50** » Fri Jan 28, 2011 1:24 am

Two Tigers prospects made Law's top 100 list.

Right-handed pitcher Jacob Turner is No. 22 and third baseman Nick Castellenos is No. 75. Turner also is No. 15 on mlb.com's top 50 list.

Law says much of the Tigers' minor league depth is in power relief arms.

From The Detroit News: http://detnews.com/article/20110127/SPO ... 471/Tigers’-farm-system-ranked-25th-by-ESPN#ixzz1CHycVlNH

Post #2 » by **ajaX82** » Fri Jan 28, 2011 1:36 am

I am excited about Turner. #15 on the top 50 prospect list is no small feat.

chrbal · Post #3 » by **chrbal** » Fri Jan 28, 2011 7:35 pm

Two words; Miguel Cabrera.

Its moves like that why we don't have a great minor league. We temporarily have one, and then trade key componets for better players (most of the time). Would you rather have Andrew Miller and Cameron Maybin or Cabrera.?

maybin http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7684
miller http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7847

TSE · Post #4 » by **TSE** » Fri Jan 28, 2011 8:38 pm

We are below average simply because we have traded away pieces of our future and neglected to make long-term strategic value decisions that would have allowed us to grow and develop and become more profitable from a win probability percent. Just like any competition, from our farm-team perspective we should strive to be the best. If not the best, then the farther away you are, the greater of a justification you must present to show why your major league presence and position was enhanced by trading off of that sub-goal. Yet we don't have the proper amount of positive bonuses installed into our major league roster state. Granted we have a reasonably nice and expensive boat, but there is a hole in the middle of the boat, and perhaps we can travel farther in our state of the art boat that has a hole in it compared with a cheap boat of no defects, but any way you slice it we are foolish for trying to accomplish something special in the form of a boat race with anything less than a state of the art boat that has no defects. I'm sick and tired of riding around with this hole in the boat, patch that sucker up!

cochiseuofm · Post #5 » by **cochiseuofm** » Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:04 pm

chrbal wrote:Two words; Miguel Cabrera.

Its moves like that why we don't have a great minor league. We temporarily have one, and then trade key componets for better players (most of the time). Would you rather have Andrew Miller and Cameron Maybin or Cabrera.?

maybin http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7684
miller http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7847

This really doesn't explain why our farm system is bad this year. Maybin and Miller are major league players now, they wouldn't factor in to any team's farm system rankings. None of the players we traded for Cabrera really would. Same goes for Jair Jurrjens and Gorkys Hernandez, who we traded in that awful deal for Renteria.

The Tigers actually haven't made any significant trades that involve trading prospects for big names. They've actually done the opposite. They traded Edwin Jackson, coming off a great season, for Max Scherzer and Daniel Schlereth, a deal which looks like a big winner for us. We also included Granderson in that deal and got Austin Jackson for him, who likes like a pretty good player as well.

The real problem is our major league depth is not good, so we are forced to keep bringing up our minor leaguers before they are fully ready. The amount of injuries we have due to signing so many older players also forces this issue a bit. Scott Sizemore got burn last year despite clearly not being ready for the majors, Rick Porcello started an entire season when he was 20 years old. Scherzer, Schlereth, and Jackson were all expected to be contributors last season as well. And now there is talk that Jacob Turner might be brought into the bigs this summer too.

So you could say our strong desire to win now is causing us to burn through the farm system. Could be a good thing if all those players, Jackson, Porcello, Scherzer, Turner etc, pan out as expected. They could all hit their prime at the same time and if nothing else, we'd have a killer rotation. But we'll have to see if that works out or not...

Shooter1 · Post #6 » by **Shooter1** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:43 pm

chrbal wrote:Two words; Miguel Cabrera.

Its moves like that why we don't have a great minor league. We temporarily have one, and then trade key componets for better players (most of the time). Would you rather have Andrew Miller and Cameron Maybin or Cabrera.?

maybin http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7684
miller http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7847

Edgar Renteria or Jair Jurrjens?