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Post#21 » by Ayt » Sat May 18, 2024 1:22 am

Ortiz has been incredible this year.
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Post#22 » by Matches Malone » Sat May 18, 2024 1:38 am

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Post#23 » by Turk Nowitzki » Sat May 18, 2024 1:57 am

Freddy has to be better than this, just has to.
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Post#24 » by Turk Nowitzki » Sat May 18, 2024 2:10 am

Why the **** is Perkins ever pinch hitting for Chourio?
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Post#25 » by blazza18 » Sat May 18, 2024 2:12 am

Understand growing pains but it absolutely sucked that Chourio was pulled there.
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Post#26 » by Turk Nowitzki » Sat May 18, 2024 2:14 am

blazza18 wrote:Understand growing pains but it absolutely sucked that Chourio was pulled there.

For a guy who is having an even worse go of it at the plate than Chourio.
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Post#27 » by Turk Nowitzki » Sat May 18, 2024 2:32 am

SWING THE BAT SAL
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Post#28 » by Turk Nowitzki » Sat May 18, 2024 2:51 am

Such a stupid loss.
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Post#29 » by ReasonablySober » Sat May 18, 2024 2:52 am

That stinks.
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Post#30 » by Brewster » Sat May 18, 2024 2:53 am

Felt like Astros stole this one from us.
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Post#31 » by trwi7 » Sat May 18, 2024 3:00 am

Murphy can go join Greg in Chicago.
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Post#32 » by Turk Nowitzki » Sat May 18, 2024 3:08 am

Sure glad Blake Perkins was in there to take that at bat in the 9th against a lefty rather than Chourio.
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Post#33 » by coolhandluke121 » Sat May 18, 2024 11:30 am

I don't really get the complaints about Perkins and Chourio. Both have been awful lately, but Chourio has been worse overall. More importantly, the real issue was Freddy. He's just not quite as good as the narrative has made him out to be. Reminds me a lot of Gallardo, who ended up being kind of a disappointment after showing so much promise early on.
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Post#34 » by MickeyDavis » Sat May 18, 2024 12:06 pm

Lately Perkins has been much worse than Chourio. In May, he's just 5-45 with an OPS of.367. Chourio is 8-33, with an OPS of .598. Most hitters are streaky so 2-3 week trends are more telling than 2 months. Either way they both need to get their **** together at the plate.
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Post#35 » by MiltownHawkeye » Sat May 18, 2024 2:14 pm

Ortiz miiiiiight be playing over his head just a little bit
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Post#36 » by trwi7 » Sat May 18, 2024 4:57 pm

coolhandluke121 wrote:I don't really get the complaints about Perkins and Chourio. Both have been awful lately, but Chourio has been worse overall. More importantly, the real issue was Freddy. He's just not quite as good as the narrative has made him out to be. Reminds me a lot of Gallardo, who ended up being kind of a disappointment after showing so much promise early on.


If both players aren't playing well, you give the at bat to the 20 year old top prospect over the 27 year old backup outfielder/AAAA player every single **** time.
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Re: Brewers/Astros Series 

Post#37 » by coolhandluke121 » Sat May 18, 2024 5:20 pm

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coolhandluke121 wrote:I don't really get the complaints about Perkins and Chourio. Both have been awful lately, but Chourio has been worse overall. More importantly, the real issue was Freddy. He's just not quite as good as the narrative has made him out to be. Reminds me a lot of Gallardo, who ended up being kind of a disappointment after showing so much promise early on.


If both players aren't playing well, you give the at bat to the 20 year old top prospect over the 27 year old backup outfielder/AAAA player every single **** time.


There's a reason that very few 20-year-old's get regular AB's in the majors, and that's because they're almost never as effective as experienced backup AAAA outfielders in their physical prime. But nitpicking that move cracks me up either way, as the difference is barely a fart in the wind at this point.
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Re: Brewers/Astros Series 

Post#38 » by trwi7 » Sat May 18, 2024 6:27 pm

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coolhandluke121 wrote:I don't really get the complaints about Perkins and Chourio. Both have been awful lately, but Chourio has been worse overall. More importantly, the real issue was Freddy. He's just not quite as good as the narrative has made him out to be. Reminds me a lot of Gallardo, who ended up being kind of a disappointment after showing so much promise early on.


If both players aren't playing well, you give the at bat to the 20 year old top prospect over the 27 year old backup outfielder/AAAA player every single **** time.


There's a reason that very few 20-year-old's get regular AB's in the majors, and that's because they're almost never as effective as experienced backup AAAA outfielders in their physical prime. But nitpicking that move cracks me up either way, as the difference is barely a fart in the wind at this point.


If you're not going to play the 20 year old top prospect in the majors, then send him the **** down and give him at bats. You're not helping him at all by having him sit on the bench or pulling him for a pinch hitter in every close and late situation.
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Re: Brewers/Astros Series 

Post#39 » by coolhandluke121 » Sat May 18, 2024 6:41 pm

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If you're not going to play the 20 year old top prospect in the majors, then send him the **** down and give him at bats.


I agree 100%, and he should have been sent down a week ago IMO. The challenges of ML pitching do not appear to be developmentally appropriate for him right now. It's hard to say whether he's benefiting from the experience or not, but it looks like he's completely overwhelmed and I don't think you can learn much in that state.

Perkins, unfortunately, appears to completely suck again, but I think it's developmentally more appropriate to give him a chance to figure it out in the majors. He was basically a top-3 NL CF before May rolled around, and it didn't look like he was just getting lucky all the time either.

I expect Chourio to spend a few months in AAA if Mitchell comes back, and then I think he's got a chance to be much better in a call-up situation.
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Re: Brewers/Astros Series 

Post#40 » by ReasonablySober » Sat May 18, 2024 6:54 pm

There’s no reason to send Chourio down. He needs at bats against MLB caliber pitching.

If there was a service time issue at play, then sure, let him work out his issues in AAA. But he’s signed for the next decade so let him get his cuts in Milwaukee.

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