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Post#61 » by MickeyDavis » Tue Jul 31, 2007 3:44 pm

SportsWorld wrote:By the way, the Cardinals received Joel Pinero from the Red Sox for a PTBNL.


Interesting, he hasn't really had a good year since 2003.
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Post#62 » by MadCityBucky » Tue Jul 31, 2007 3:46 pm

What happened to the Jermain Dye to Brewers rumor?

Dye has been crap this year though.
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Post#63 » by mnstinks » Tue Jul 31, 2007 3:52 pm

If both the Dunn and Byrnes rumors are true (that we are interested and the trades are similar to those mentioned) I would prefer Byrnes, becuase he fits a need and would cost less (apparently a lot less).
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Post#64 » by xTitan » Tue Jul 31, 2007 4:00 pm

As of Sunday AZ was tied for 1st place...I have no idea why they would deal Byrnes...I don't care that he will be a free agent, he is your best hitter and you are in 1st place.
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Post#65 » by mnstinks » Tue Jul 31, 2007 4:08 pm

Contract extension talks have broken off.

AZ looking for a pitcher.
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Post#66 » by SportsWorld » Tue Jul 31, 2007 4:16 pm

Things are looking better for you guys getting Gagne:
The Yankees and Mets are discouraged about their chances of landing Eric Gagne, according to FOXSports.com's Ken Rosenthal.
The Yankees won't trade their top pitching prospects, and the Mets have declined to part with Carlos Gomez. The Red Sox are believed to have the best offer on the table, but they don't know if he'll waive his no-trade protection to join them. The Brewers, reportedly using Tony Gwynn Jr. as bait, are also in the mix. Jul. 31 - 12:08 pm et
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Post#67 » by MickeyDavis » Tue Jul 31, 2007 4:32 pm

I'm not sure why Gagne would want to come here vs. the East coast.
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Post#68 » by ajb905 » Tue Jul 31, 2007 4:41 pm

Maybe he'll get an assurance that he will be the closer, which wouldn't be the case in Boston. That way he can show off his "closer" stuff while picking up saves. Coco has been great this year but he has definitely cooled off recently...what are his stats before/after pitching in 6 straight games?

I would pull that trigger...Gwynn for Gagne in a heartbeat.
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Post#69 » by MickeyDavis » Tue Jul 31, 2007 4:51 pm

It would be interesting have two closers who are both free agents after the year. Could be some friction but competition is a good thing.

Get saves and you close, blow saves and you sit.
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Post#70 » by mnstinks » Tue Jul 31, 2007 4:54 pm

MadCityBucky wrote:What happened to the Jermain Dye to Brewers rumor?

Dye has been crap this year though.


The Brewers have considered the possibility of a Jermaine Dye trade. Kenny Williams apparently wants Derrick Turnbow or Manny Parra

Dye is hitting well since the break.
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Post#71 » by MickeyDavis » Tue Jul 31, 2007 5:11 pm

Manny better not be going anywhere.
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Post#72 » by xTitan » Tue Jul 31, 2007 5:12 pm

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The Brewers have considered the possibility of a Jermaine Dye trade. Kenny Williams apparently wants Derrick Turnbow or Manny Parra

Dye is hitting well since the break.


Turnbow it is.......plus throw Jenkins in to allieve any waxy build-up.
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Post#73 » by ajb905 » Tue Jul 31, 2007 5:17 pm

Yeah I don't see Parra (really any of the bullpen guys) being traded unless we get more than a rental. I like the win now mode but they can't guy trade away all our young guys (Weeks, Parra, etc) if they want to have a chance in future years.
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Post#74 » by ReasonablySober » Tue Jul 31, 2007 5:26 pm

I'd be dangling the package of Turnbow and Gwynn to any team that'll listen.

Byrnes would be a dream. Gagne even better. Dye is boom or bust.

I'd love to pick up any of those three.
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Post#75 » by mnstinks » Tue Jul 31, 2007 5:34 pm

Did the BrewBuck kid ever post where he heard the Byrnes rumor?
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Post#76 » by mnstinks » Tue Jul 31, 2007 5:39 pm

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Post#77 » by Nowak008 » Tue Jul 31, 2007 5:47 pm

I would crap my pants if we got Gange for Gywnn.
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Post#78 » by ajb905 » Tue Jul 31, 2007 5:51 pm

I wouldn't trade Turnbow unless we at least get a major league bullpen arm back. He only makes $3+ million a year and even though he is a cardiac attack waiting to happen he still has great value. I don't see AZ trading Byrnes when they are sitting in first place.
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Post#79 » by mnstinks » Tue Jul 31, 2007 6:03 pm

Looks like the Sox win the Gagne sweepstakes.

Go get a hitter.
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Post#80 » by Nowak008 » Tue Jul 31, 2007 6:05 pm

From Jason Stark:


The Gagne sweepstakes was down to the Red Sox and Brewers by Tuesday afternoon. The Yankees and Mets signaled that by turning their attention to other deals, according to executives from multiple teams. So that left one team (Boston) that wasn't on Gagne's list of approved teams he could be traded to and a second team (Milwaukee) that could. So the Red Sox were working not just to find a player package Texas would accept, but also for ways to rework Gagne's contract so that he would approve the deal. Satisfying Texas was no small challenge, though. They continue to ask for every team's best prospects. So the Red Sox's willingness to include center fielder David Murphy and the Brewers' willingness to deal outfielder Tony Gwynn Jr. wouldn't be enough. Texas asked the Yankees for primo pitching prospects Phil Hughes and Joba Chamberlain. The Mets said no on any of their young outfieldes -- Carlos Gomez, Fernando Martinez and Lastings Milledge. And the same hang-up exists with the Red Sox, who have no interest in even carrying on a conversation that involves Clay Buchholz or Jacoby Ellsbury. The Rangers were trying to convince those clubs they were willing to hang onto Gagne and either sign him to an extension (doubtful) or take two draft picks as compensation. But it's far from a sure thing Gagne would be a Type A free agent that would result in two high picks. So this looks like a furious negotiation to the finish -- with three teams and Gagne's omnipresent agent, Scott Boras.


Looks like Gagne wants to come here. We need to sweeten the pot to get him here. Our pen would be sick if we could get him.

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