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M-C-G wrote:Wonder if there was something more going on that we will find out about in a 30 for 30 in like 15 years.
Gery Woelfel wrote:Got a time big boy?
As a brewers fan I wholeheartedly agree.Ron Swanson wrote:^^Which is exactly why baseball needs a salary cap in the worst way. Want more eyeballs on your sport in the dead months between basketball and football? Maybe give 60-70% of your fans hope that their teams can have a fighting chance and give them incentive to pay attention outside of the 3-4 years every decade where the windows of their prospects and payroll line up, before they're inevitably poached by the big clubs and you have to hit the reset button again. I mean hell, Stearns basically made every right roster move and we had our window (2017-2021), got close once (NLCS Game 7), and now it's right back to the drawing board cuz ($$$$)......."reasons".
I mean, Brewers could still be back only 5-games in the division on September 1st, but I don't think there's a single shred of optimism for this team even if they can get hot and go on a run. MLB feeds fan apathy like no other sport, and it's not a coincidence why they're always lagging behind the NBA and NFL when it comes to marketing their ****.
jute2003 wrote:I think the biggest problem with baseball and it's popularity is that unless you have a rooting interest, it's too **** boring.
The only way to change things is for small market fans must stop watching baseball period. Send a message. As long as there is revenue sharing owners are not going to care as long as they are making money. I for one have not watched an all star game or world series in a long time. And now I have hardly watched the Brewers this year.WeekapaugGroove wrote:As a brewers fan I wholeheartedly agree.Ron Swanson wrote:^^Which is exactly why baseball needs a salary cap in the worst way. Want more eyeballs on your sport in the dead months between basketball and football? Maybe give 60-70% of your fans hope that their teams can have a fighting chance and give them incentive to pay attention outside of the 3-4 years every decade where the windows of their prospects and payroll line up, before they're inevitably poached by the big clubs and you have to hit the reset button again. I mean hell, Stearns basically made every right roster move and we had our window (2017-2021), got close once (NLCS Game 7), and now it's right back to the drawing board cuz ($$$$)......."reasons".
I mean, Brewers could still be back only 5-games in the division on September 1st, but I don't think there's a single shred of optimism for this team even if they can get hot and go on a run. MLB feeds fan apathy like no other sport, and it's not a coincidence why they're always lagging behind the NBA and NFL when it comes to marketing their ****.
If I were the commissioner I might have a different view. I think baseballs core issue is very few fans care or watch anything outside of their team. The NFL is on a different statophere with this and the NBA is way ahead of baseball. If it was more of a level playing field would that change this? I don't know, maybe but I have my doubts. Because if not then I can understand how the league would want the stars to gravitate to the big markets and those teams to be good because they have bigger fan bases.
Hell I'm guilty of this myself, I watch zero baseball other than the brewers. Even the postseason I'll turn on a game if it's close but if the brewers aren't playing I won't go out of my way to watch.
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MikeIsGood wrote:Oh this is fun. I kind of went back-and-forth on this, but I decided that I'm thinking of it like - if two events/sports were on at the same time, which would I watch? That pushed tennis majors above UW basketball, for example, as I'd miss a game to watch the US Open Final.
Tier 1
Tennis majors
UW basketball
UW football
Bucks
Tier 2
Brewers
Packers
General college basketball
Tier 3
General tennis
Golf majors
General college football
General NFL
Tier 4
General golf
General MLB
Can't Pay Me To Watch
Hockey of any kind
Something like that.
Baddy Chuck wrote:I want to win but I also love chaos.
“I’ve been keeping up with the team from afar and I see they’re struggling a little bit. I wouldn’t say I saw that coming, but I feel like when you mess around with the chemistry of the team, things like this can happen.
“Analytics doesn’t judge or measure the heart of a person or the chemistry of a team. Certain guys need a certain comfort level, and playing together, they complement each other. You go into the locker room saying, ‘I’m comfortable today. I can talk to my buddies about anything, hang out and relax.’ When you move guys around, especially when you started with a certain group, you slowly start to lose that. It can definitely affect the win and loss column, for sure.”
“I mean, it is what it is,” Cain said. “That’s one of the reasons we kind of parted ways; I honestly feel like I never got that respect as a veteran, as a leader on this team, from certain coaches and certain upper management. That’s mostly why we parted ways when we did.”
“It wasn’t [about] playing every day, because I know I was struggling a little bit,” said Cain, who was hitting .179 with a .465 OPS through 156 plate appearances at the time he was cut. “This goes back to not only this year, but years and years. It’s been three years where I’ve felt this way. I think when you mess around with that, when you’re supposed to be the leader of the team, the veteran in the clubhouse, and you don’t get that respect that you feel you should get as a leader and a veteran, I think that makes it harder for me to lead and for certain guys to also lead. Ultimately, it shows up in a big way when you go out there and play on the field
“I definitely think the boys can turn it around, but yeah, when you go through rough times, you need certain guys to keep guys going. I think that’s one of the reasons it’s been a struggle to get guys out of the funk. When you get rid of certain guys, when you start messing with the chemistry of the clubhouse, it affects everybody. It’s happening right now. Hopefully they can turn it around, because you can see it’s been weird. Something’s off, for sure.”
