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Ryan5UW wrote:“if they offer him a fair deal” - what are the odds of that? Someone needs to help Mark find his wallet…
"What’s going on is the sabermetric boys are taking away from our salaries," one manager said, "because they think they can manage."
While MLB had a record $10.8 billion in revenue this past season, manager salaries have plummeted by 50%, according to agents who represent managers.
"I can not think of an industry in this country," said one veteran agent, "where their CEO, CFO, president or whatever has their salary go down by 50%."
There are only six managers in the game who are scheduled to earn at least $3 million in 2024, led by Padres manager Bob Melvin’s $4 million salaries, according to USA TODAY’s research: Bochy, Melvin, Buck Showalter (fired), Dave Martinez, Roberts and Alex Cora.
Managers are losing leverage every year. If they ask for a nice raise, and the teams resist, they’ll threaten to find someone else who’ll take the job. If a rookie manager is hired, they’re supposed to be grateful just to have a job, even if they’re earning less than the major-league player minimum of $800,000.
"These young managers will accept almost anything," one manager said, "just to get on the pension program."
It leaves Milwaukee Brewers manager Craig Counsell with the responsibility of raising managerial salaries once he signs a new contract.
Counsell, who’s the hottest managerial free agent when his contract expires Oct. 31, earned $3.5 million last season with the Brewers.
He knows he was severely undervalued, and would like to be paid accordingly, if not with the Brewers, somewhere else.
He should get a bump in pay to at least $5 million a year, if not at least $6 million. If the Brewers don’t want to pay it, there’s a certain team in Queens, N.Y., that will.
Counsell definitely wants to keep managing, and most likely will stay put in Milwaukee with the New York hype being overblown, but friends say it is important to him to help reverse the course of managerial salaries.
Ryan5UW wrote:"I can not think of an industry in this country," said one veteran agent, "where their CEO, CFO, president or whatever has their salary go down by 50%."
coolhandluke121 wrote:I actually get the argument that many managers can't add much beyond the value of good analytics, but it just doesn't apply to Counsell at all. He's excellent with analytics and with managing egos, roles, and team character in general. He is really and truly our Popovich, and I'm praying for at least 10 more years.
According to SNY's @martinonyc, sources say Craig Counsell would welcome the challenge of managing in New York:
"Two league sources familiar with the situation said on Monday that Counsell would indeed embrace New York. If he and [David] Stearns wish to continue their partnership, sources say, geography will not be a roadblock."
The Mets have received permission to interview Craig Counsell for the manager job, according to league sources. Brewers had initially indicated they would not grant it, and Counsell’s contract would have to expire. They have changed course, and Mets will be interviewing him soon.
Gery Woelfel wrote:Got a time big boy?
ReasonablySober wrote:Really just a formality. He could have interviewed after the WS anyway.
Matches Malone wrote:Stephen Vogt should get an interview. None of the retreads interest me a whole lot.
humanrefutation wrote:If this is really just about money, Mark would be insane to let him walk over a couple million.
But with CC, I always thought it was just as much about him struggling to work with spare parts here in Milwaukee. Going to the Mets would add a ton of pressure, but it would also involve a POBO he knows well and an owner who isn't afraid to spend money.
