Official Minor League News Thread - 2007

[cmaff051]

How can you say we are pushing our limit when we just paid Clemens essentially 26 million for half a season? A guy who is not even the best starter on this team nor an ace. That makes absolutely no sense.

How can you not see the difference between a one year commitment and a (possibly) 8 year commitment? It's clear as day to me.

[PR07]

It's easy to see. If we can pay an old Clemens 26 million, we can pay an old Arod 30+ million. Money is not really an issue.

[nykgeneralmanager]

At one point just a year ago we were paying Giambi roughly $20 million, Moose roughly $17 million, Pavano about $10 million, Jaret Wright $7 million, and the list goes on and on. Moose has already taken a paycut, Wright is gone, Pavano will be gone after 2008, and Giambi will go with Pavano if not sooner.

We can afford ARod at $30 million.

Now if you don't WANT to pay him that much, that is a different story. But you can't sit here and say that would bring us past our limit.

[cmaff051]

It's easy to see. If we can pay an old Clemens 26 million, we can pay an old Arod 30+ million. Money is not really an issue.

First, the 26 mil is prorated. He's getting paid roughly 17-18 million this year. Second, Arod's contract would be for 7-8 years, Clemens is only one year.

[cmaff051]

With his brief address, shown on the right-center field videoboard to 52,553 fans and many more watching on television, the Rocket rejoined the Yankees in most dramatic fashion.

He agreed to a one-year contract for $28,000,022

[cmaff051]

With his brief address, shown on the right-center field videoboard to 52,553 fans and many more watching on television, the Rocket rejoined the Yankees in most dramatic fashion.

He agreed to a one-year contract for $28,000,022

[PR07]

I'm sure that you could factor in that there will be luxury tax, but I felt it's a bit premature given that Abreu might or might not be back at his 16 million next season, and we don't really know where we'll stand. Either way, by the time AROD is 38, we will be out of Giambi's contract, Pavano's contract, Damon's contract, Abreu's contract, Posads's, Matsui's, the list gones on, so there will be a lot of money readily available. That was the point I was trying to make with the Clemens comparison. If we can give an old Clemens 26 million, we shouldn't have a problem with giving an old AROD 30+ million especially with how our roster will be shaping up at that time. We are an old team and by the time AROD gets baseball old, we'll be rid of almost all of our old big money veteran players.

[nykgeneralmanager]

I'm sure that you could factor in that there will be luxury tax, but I felt it's a bit premature given that Abreu might or might not be back at his 16 million next season, and we don't really know where we'll stand. Either way, by the time AROD is 38, we will be out of Giambi's contract, Pavano's contract, Damon's contract, Abreu's contract, Posads's, Matsui's, the list gones on, so there will be a lot of money readily available. That was the point I was trying to make with the Clemens comparison. If we can give an old Clemens 26 million, we shouldn't have a problem with giving an old AROD 30+ million especially with how our roster will be shaping up at that time. We are an old team and by the time AROD gets baseball old, we'll be rid of almost all of our old big money veteran players.

But by then, Hughes and Chamberlain will be making $25 million

[nykgeneralmanager]

Austin Jackson continues his tear with a double, average up to .423!

[PR07]

Yeah, you may be right...probably Cano and Wang too...but hopefully, we'll get much more bang for the buck than we did with this group.

[nykgeneralmanager]

Joba: 7 innings, 3 hits, 1 BB, 0 R, 9 Ks - DOMINANT

[cmaff051]

I was at that game - he was incredible. He gave up 2 hard hit balls all game, all in the same inning - the 2nd - and was pretty much unhittable the rest of the game. He was flashing that dominant fastball and a plus slider that hitters were getting fooled on. His change was very good too, he got a lot of swing and misses on it. I think he was in one 3 ball count all game, he was in control and throwing strikes all game. Reminded me of Hughes.

[nykgeneralmanager]

I was at that game - he was incredible. He gave up 2 hard hit balls all game, all in the same inning - the 2nd - and was pretty much unhittable the rest of the game. He was flashing that dominant fastball and a plus slider that hitters were getting fooled on. His change was very good too, he got a lot of swing and misses on it. I think he was in one 3 ball count all game, he was in control and throwing strikes all game. Reminded me of Hughes.

Yeah I was able to watch the live stream from CN8, his slider was incredible. When guys weren't swinging through it, they were watching it hit the corner for a called strike. Then he'd come up and in with a 95-97 mph heater. His changeup seemed solid, but I was more impressed with his curve. His stuff is perfectly fine, just continue to improve on the control (as he showed tonight) and there will be many nights just like tonight. As you said, just like Hughes because of the command of 3 pitches.

[theknicks414]

Joba was sitting at 96-98 and hit 100 2 times!

[34Celtic]

The game is on demand on comcast right now....

[cmaff051]

The game is on demand on comcast right now....

And hopefully after watching that you see the reason why we are not trading Joba.

[34Celtic]

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And hopefully after watching that you see the reason why we are not trading Joba.

Those hitters couldn't come close to his fastball. Still, I'd have trouble turning down him and a couple lesser prospects for Teixera

[ReggieFULLeffect]

Yankees prospect Dellin Betances left his start Sunday after three innings because of tightness in his throwing elbow.

"We took him out because he was complaining of stiffness in his elbow. We wanted to error on the side of caution," said Staten Island manager Mike Gillespie. Betances was making just his sixth start after opening the year in extended spring training. The raw-but-extremely-talented 19-year-old has a 3.60 ERA and a 29/17 K/BB in 25 IP.

This from rotoworld.

Sidenote -- I heard Sweeney Murti say (in the first hour of M and the MD) that he heard rumblings of a Joba and Tabata trade for Teixera.

[Jitpal]

Yankees prospect Dellin Betances left his start Sunday after three innings because of tightness in his throwing elbow.

"We took him out because he was complaining of stiffness in his elbow. We wanted to error on the side of caution," said Staten Island manager Mike Gillespie. Betances was making just his sixth start after opening the year in extended spring training. The raw-but-extremely-talented 19-year-old has a 3.60 ERA and a 29/17 K/BB in 25 IP.

This from rotoworld.

Sidenote -- I heard Sweeney Murti say (in the first hour of M and the MD) that he heard rumblings of a Joba and Tabata trade for Teixera.

What? HELL NO! I wouldn't trade one of them alone for Teixeira and I started the whole "let's trade for Teixiera" thing months ago before the papers picked up on it. He isn't worth that much with Boras as his agent. You know we can win a bidding war with anyone when he is a free agent in a year. It's not like we are going to get any better chance right now. Why trade away two potential franchise cornerstones for a guy we may not even have in a year. -Jitpal

[PR07]

I'd love to get Teixeira, but trading Joba and Tabata would be a mistake. I wouldn't trade either straight up right now.