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Post#61 » by jumanji » Tue Jul 26, 2011 7:32 pm

Would add a Colby Rasmus to that Mariner wish list. His average is down a bit this year but he's got 50 homeruns in the bigs and still 24 years old. Rasmus in left and Pence in right, can i at least dream for something good.
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Re: Trades in 2011 and the 2012 payroll 

Post#62 » by Bulltalk » Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:02 pm

As much as Z can't be fault for the structural personnel problems that he inherited (many), the fact of putting out one of the worst offenses in the modern era two years in a row is still a big strike against him. That's hard to do.
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Post#63 » by ORL_4LIFE » Wed Jul 27, 2011 1:00 am

man, imagine if this turns out to be a rain shortened perfect game.
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Post#64 » by TTown » Wed Jul 27, 2011 1:06 am

Delay over, Sabathia comes back out, perfection through six. Neat.

Honestly, I'm surprised we haven't been no-hit six or seven times this year. Hasn't Tampa been no-hit 3 or 4 times over the last couple years? I'm literally amazed we haven't been this year and last.
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Post#65 » by TTown » Wed Jul 27, 2011 1:16 am

Ryan breaks it up, single to left in the 7th.
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Post#66 » by Sweezo » Wed Jul 27, 2011 2:16 am

TTown wrote:Delay over, Sabathia comes back out, perfection through six. Neat.

Honestly, I'm surprised we haven't been no-hit six or seven times this year. Hasn't Tampa been no-hit 3 or 4 times over the last couple years? I'm literally amazed we haven't been this year and last.


He absolutely dominated us. Unreal. Deep down, i wasn't even opposed to the perfect game happening. In some sick way it would be cathartic.
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Re: Trades in 2011 and the 2012 payroll 

Post#67 » by jumanji » Wed Jul 27, 2011 2:23 am

Had our 18 million dollar man up in the 8th with a chance to get the lead and he Ks after showing bunt. Sorry but that act is getting real old.
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Post#68 » by TTown » Wed Jul 27, 2011 3:56 am

LMAO @ our team, that Ichiro at-bat was horrific but it wasn't even the worst of the inning, IMO. Kennedy had the 8th inning at bat that set me off; bases juiced (three walks, naturally), no outs, full count, Kennedy swings and misses at a ball that bounces in the dirt before it crosses home plate. It's like he thought a cricket game had broken out.

Chone Figgins got the same exact location the very next pitch and laid off. Bad day at the office when Chone Figgins shows better plate discipline than you. Of course, Figgs tried his best to hit into an inning-ending double play, but the 3B made an error with the glove and only got one out, and a run even scored.
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Re: Trades in 2011 and the 2012 payroll 

Post#69 » by sharkz » Wed Jul 27, 2011 4:02 am

Figgy failed in his quest to fail. 3 straight walks from Sabathia. Some game this was.

Oh and what is that, 10 game hitting streak for Ryan? Not too bad.

Ichiro.......wow.
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Post#70 » by jumanji » Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:24 am

TTown wrote:LMAO @ our team, that Ichiro at-bat was horrific but it wasn't even the worst of the inning, IMO. Kennedy had the 8th inning at bat that set me off; bases juiced (three walks, naturally), no outs, full count, Kennedy swings and misses at a ball that bounces in the dirt before it crosses home plate. It's like he thought a cricket game had broken out.

Chone Figgins got the same exact location the very next pitch and laid off. Bad day at the office when Chone Figgins shows better plate discipline than you. Of course, Figgs tried his best to hit into an inning-ending double play, but the 3B made an error with the glove and only got one out, and a run even scored.



All true but one guy is making 18mil the other 750k, i expect more from Ichiro.
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Post#71 » by jumanji » Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:23 pm

Scratch Rasmus from the wish list, he's off to Toronto for pitching. Jack Z is like the guy who is sitting there with a pair of deuces and tells the dealer he's ok.
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Re: Trades in 2011 and the 2012 payroll 

Post#72 » by TTown » Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:33 pm

2-0 M's in the 5th. Felix is on his game today. Phil Hughes has an era over 9, even we should theoretically score 3-4 runs today. C'mon Felix, end this thing.
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Post#73 » by TTown » Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:59 pm

Well, in the 8 games since being recalled Carp is 11/31 (.355) after another 2-hit day today.
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Re: Trades in 2011 and the 2012 payroll 

Post#74 » by Sweezo » Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:06 pm

jumanji wrote:Would add a Colby Rasmus to that Mariner wish list. His average is down a bit this year but he's got 50 homeruns in the bigs and still 24 years old. Rasmus in left and Pence in right, can i at least dream for something good.


I'm shocked at how little value the Cardinals just got in return for Rasmus: RHPs Edwin Jackson and Octavio Dotel, LHP Marc Rzepcynzki, OF Corey Patterson [+ PTBNL]. Really? A mediocre starter set to be a FA at the end of the year, a couple decent bullpen guys, and a speedy OF who's had trouble sticking in the big leagues for years. A Bedard/League/Halman deal would've accomplished the same thing and possibly left the Cardinals with a collection of better talent.
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Re: Trades in 2011 and the 2012 payroll 

Post#75 » by Bay_Areas_Finest » Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:35 pm

So, for the rest of the season, can we please do:

1. Ichiro
2. Ryan
3. Ackley
4. Carp

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Post#76 » by Bay_Areas_Finest » Wed Jul 27, 2011 8:12 pm

Mike Carp is a beast. MVP.
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Re: Trades in 2011 and the 2012 payroll 

Post#77 » by jumanji » Wed Jul 27, 2011 8:24 pm

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jumanji wrote:Would add a Colby Rasmus to that Mariner wish list. His average is down a bit this year but he's got 50 homeruns in the bigs and still 24 years old. Rasmus in left and Pence in right, can i at least dream for something good.


I'm shocked at how little value the Cardinals just got in return for Rasmus: RHPs Edwin Jackson and Octavio Dotel, LHP Marc Rzepcynzki, OF Corey Patterson [+ PTBNL]. Really? A mediocre starter set to be a FA at the end of the year, a couple decent bullpen guys, and a speedy OF who's had trouble sticking in the big leagues for years. A Bedard/League/Halman deal would've accomplished the same thing and possibly left the Cardinals with a collection of better talent.


I think we could have easily matched that with Fister and League but what the hell do i know.

How about Mike Carp and Dustin Ackley? i think these two guys are legit. Carp after his recall looks like the hitter we thought he was after torching the PCL. Now lets go out and find a 4 hole hitter.
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Re: Trades in 2011 and the 2012 payroll 

Post#78 » by Bulltalk » Wed Jul 27, 2011 8:58 pm

jumanji wrote:
I think we could have easily matched that with Fister and League but what the hell do i know.

How about Mike Carp and Dustin Ackley? i think these two guys are legit. Carp after his recall looks like the hitter we thought he was after torching the PCL. Now lets go out and find a 4 hole hitter.


How nice would it be to have someone other than a top prospect emerge from our farm system as a real hitter? A surprise? I hope Carp can be such a player.
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Re: Trades in 2011 and the 2012 payroll 

Post#79 » by sharkz » Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:32 pm

I solemnly swear to never even think about eating carp ever.

our first win in a long time and it comes against the yanks behind mike carp. We are one weird team. O

Anyway man did the cards get ripped off for rasmus.
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Post#80 » by TTown » Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:04 am

7 hits combined for Carp and Ackley today. Heck, 4 by Ichiro, too.
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