Re: A slightly unorthodox offseason plan
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 7:28 pm
After perusing this thread, I've found a few items rather questionable. Among them:
- the apparent man love for Adam Dunn.
Please tell me how a career .247 hitter that strikes out 1 out of every 3 at-bats (more than Richie Sexson, who is a career .261 hitter mind you) should be signed to play in a PITCHERS park where power is obviously not a big factor? Dunn is essentially the reincarnate of Sexson, but WORSE. He in no way shape or form deserves a 5 yr 100 million dollar deal just because he can hit 40 home runs. I am very very curious why so many people want him for such a big contract? I'd rather deal with Wlad Balentien who should hit for a similar average and over 30 home runs, with about 1/30th the contract.
- the notion that shoring up our defense by trading for weak-hitting defensive players would help
By all accounts, the Mariners defense is NOT why they are going to lose 100 games this year. The reason the Mariners are going to lose 100 games is because of absolutely inept hitting and a very poor bottom 3 rotation. If anything, we should be trading to shore up our OFFENSE, the problem is there is no one we have on our ML roster outside of Ichiro and Ibanez that is really worth trading for. As far the bottom 3, remember, Batista and Silva have 2 of the worst ERA's (I think Batista actually has the worst) amongst starters in the MLB.
- the notion we can trade overpaid players for anything more than a bottle of Gatorade
We are in a very rough rough ROUGH position. Our main trading chips are all past 30. The positions that we should be underpaying we are overpaying, and the positions we are overpaying we are OVER OVER paying. We have a weak hitting 3rd basemen getting over 10 million a year. We have a singles hitting leadoff hitter who, with all due respect to him and his consistency, is primarily worth the money he is for marketing purposes. We have a backup catcher getting paid 8 million a year! We have an absolutely horrible 4th starter getting paid 12 million a year!!!!! I mean, your 4th starter should be a prospect, or at least a light paid vet, but 12 million on a #4? Not to mention 8-9 million on a #5 in Batista? I mean wow...
The trades I've read on this thread are for the most part not only unrealistic, but I really don't see what they do to regenerate the offense. What''s the point in "slightly" improving defense if you are going to have an even worse offense anyways? What's the point of having Ichiro get on base 35% of the time if you have the 2nd coming of Richie Sexson striking out with him on? I mean this team needs a complete and total makeover, Florida Marlins style.
- the notion that Ibanez will settle a paltry 5 million a year
Ibanez will pull a Jose Guillen so fast you wouldn't know what hit you. There is NO way Ibanez is settling for 5 mill, even at his age. His production has been better in his latter years and he keeps himself up. He's relatively consistent, and there are games where he just absolutely carries the team. He will definitely sign for more than 5 million, closeer to a 10 million per deal. I don't see any incentive for him to sign with the Mariners, either.
I will say this:
- Morrow should be our closer. I don't want to risk his arm as a starter, and we could just pencil him there for the next 10 years, easily.
- I agree that Yuniesky should be replaced, but he isn't as bad as people make him out to be on here
- Jose Lopez I think should stay. He's on pace to get close to 200 hits and we need all of the offense that we can get. It's not like he's a horrid defender anyways, and even if he was, that defense is not having enough of an impact negatively to justify replacing him
- Clement needs to be the full time catcher.
- Balentien needs to start, he can hit 30+ homers a year
- We should not overpay any free agent that hasn't shown a propensity towards consistent ALL around produciton. Meaning- no fluke year players that have 1 good year and then BAM (hello Beltre)...
- the apparent man love for Adam Dunn.
Please tell me how a career .247 hitter that strikes out 1 out of every 3 at-bats (more than Richie Sexson, who is a career .261 hitter mind you) should be signed to play in a PITCHERS park where power is obviously not a big factor? Dunn is essentially the reincarnate of Sexson, but WORSE. He in no way shape or form deserves a 5 yr 100 million dollar deal just because he can hit 40 home runs. I am very very curious why so many people want him for such a big contract? I'd rather deal with Wlad Balentien who should hit for a similar average and over 30 home runs, with about 1/30th the contract.
- the notion that shoring up our defense by trading for weak-hitting defensive players would help
By all accounts, the Mariners defense is NOT why they are going to lose 100 games this year. The reason the Mariners are going to lose 100 games is because of absolutely inept hitting and a very poor bottom 3 rotation. If anything, we should be trading to shore up our OFFENSE, the problem is there is no one we have on our ML roster outside of Ichiro and Ibanez that is really worth trading for. As far the bottom 3, remember, Batista and Silva have 2 of the worst ERA's (I think Batista actually has the worst) amongst starters in the MLB.
- the notion we can trade overpaid players for anything more than a bottle of Gatorade
We are in a very rough rough ROUGH position. Our main trading chips are all past 30. The positions that we should be underpaying we are overpaying, and the positions we are overpaying we are OVER OVER paying. We have a weak hitting 3rd basemen getting over 10 million a year. We have a singles hitting leadoff hitter who, with all due respect to him and his consistency, is primarily worth the money he is for marketing purposes. We have a backup catcher getting paid 8 million a year! We have an absolutely horrible 4th starter getting paid 12 million a year!!!!! I mean, your 4th starter should be a prospect, or at least a light paid vet, but 12 million on a #4? Not to mention 8-9 million on a #5 in Batista? I mean wow...
The trades I've read on this thread are for the most part not only unrealistic, but I really don't see what they do to regenerate the offense. What''s the point in "slightly" improving defense if you are going to have an even worse offense anyways? What's the point of having Ichiro get on base 35% of the time if you have the 2nd coming of Richie Sexson striking out with him on? I mean this team needs a complete and total makeover, Florida Marlins style.
- the notion that Ibanez will settle a paltry 5 million a year
Ibanez will pull a Jose Guillen so fast you wouldn't know what hit you. There is NO way Ibanez is settling for 5 mill, even at his age. His production has been better in his latter years and he keeps himself up. He's relatively consistent, and there are games where he just absolutely carries the team. He will definitely sign for more than 5 million, closeer to a 10 million per deal. I don't see any incentive for him to sign with the Mariners, either.
I will say this:
- Morrow should be our closer. I don't want to risk his arm as a starter, and we could just pencil him there for the next 10 years, easily.
- I agree that Yuniesky should be replaced, but he isn't as bad as people make him out to be on here
- Jose Lopez I think should stay. He's on pace to get close to 200 hits and we need all of the offense that we can get. It's not like he's a horrid defender anyways, and even if he was, that defense is not having enough of an impact negatively to justify replacing him
- Clement needs to be the full time catcher.
- Balentien needs to start, he can hit 30+ homers a year
- We should not overpay any free agent that hasn't shown a propensity towards consistent ALL around produciton. Meaning- no fluke year players that have 1 good year and then BAM (hello Beltre)...