Mark Cuban sells Mavs

[ejs78]

Half of the CBA is beause of Cuban and what he did in the 2000s (BYC rule is the Keith Van Horn rule, repeater tax was made because of him and Dolan operating above tax, hard cap on S&T to stop accumulating salary, etc...), anyone who followed these years should appreciate him even had the Mavs not won in 2011.
But that was then, Cuban has become a detiment to the team, his management of the resources resulted is an empty cupboard and capped out team needing to tank to save face.
I'm well aware of the CHO and DET situations, I am freinds with cousins of the Pistons owner, it can be worse, a lot worse, but it also can be much better, even rich and involved owners can make bad decisions, just look at whay Ballmer did to the Clippers.

Ask them when old Tommy is gonna get on his jet and fly from LA to Detroit to talk about the team and fire up his adored t-shirt gun.

[41Dirk41]

You caught me Cuban is my owner and he sign my checks LOL.

I really cant wait to hear you complain when the new ownership and Cuban do something you don't like. It will be all his fault right?

No, it will be "new scary CBA" fault

Don't be angry, you can go with Cuban&Powell to casino if you miss them

Oh the CBA where were still waiting for all these team to blow through the 2nd apron in which you failed to name any of the teams? Is that the one you are talking about??? Please come get me when the Hornets start spending boatloads this money which you suggest.

Also I need more emojis so whatever you can do to help please do so.

Exactly the same number of teams as there would have been without this "new scary CBA", teams will spend more money independently from that.
Nothing significant will change just like i told you.

I'm waiting too see how teams will blow out roster for money, it's you who talks about change so it's up to you to bring evidence to support your thesis but for now we're just hot air.

The first FA was even more expensive than the previous ones so the clues aren't exactly proving you right... sorry. But i have time, i'm sure you can argument better next year. O maybe not

[41Dirk41]

It's always interesting to see the dichotomy of opinions on Cuban with Mavs fans. I understand fans being frustrated with his decisions post 2011. He made gambles, particularly on free agency, and it didn't work out. He wasted Dirk's latter half of his career. Think everyone agrees on that and it sucks it worked out that way.

But this franchise was in the trash bin before he came. It's not hyperbole to say he saved the team. We literally went from bottom 5 team to a top 5 team the year he came in and went on a spending spree. I appreciate what he did for the franchise. I just hope as a fan that new ownership is willing to spend and do what it takes to make this team a contender in the near future.

Casual fans tend to forget how hard it is to win a championship. Remember 2006? Not mentioning how we won in 2011 was truly a fairy tale. The day Mavs won I told my wife I'm content as a Mavs fan if I only get to witness one championship and it is this one, that's how special it was.

Ah well if winning a title is enough for a lifetime I can't help but feel sorry for fans like you, what do you follow the matches for? since you are already accomplished sportingly, give yourself to bird watching. Maybe it's best for you

Cuban blow out the team after 2011 and went cheap for 10 straight years, we reached the WCF in 2022 and blow out the team again not paying Brunson (I urge everyone to believe that Brunson is the bad guy and Cuban is the poor naive screwed guy ) and went cheap again.
Those are facts, not users opinions... So difficult to dismantle from your group of great minds

You and some other users are the best fan base for a owner like Cuban. Well done. Keep it up please, don't open your eyes. Never.

And i'm sorry for your wife, I guess she's jealous since you always think about me
That was totally inappropriate and totally unnecessary, please don't involve other people's family members in this

[41Dirk41]

It's always interesting to see the dichotomy of opinions on Cuban with Mavs fans. I understand fans being frustrated with his decisions post 2011. He made gambles, particularly on free agency, and it didn't work out. He wasted Dirk's latter half of his career. Think everyone agrees on that and it sucks it worked out that way.

But this franchise was in the trash bin before he came. It's not hyperbole to say he saved the team. We literally went from bottom 5 team to a top 5 team the year he came in and went on a spending spree. I appreciate what he did for the franchise. I just hope as a fan that new ownership is willing to spend and do what it takes to make this team a contender in the near future.

There are really 3 types of Mavs fans. The younger ones who have only followed the team since they’ve been good (mid-2000’s and beyond). Those typically want instant gratification and think Cuban sucks if they don’t win a title every single season. Then there is the older fans that saw what this team was like before Cuban bought the team. Those guys typically understand winning a title is hard and winning just 1 title is a monumental feat. Then there are the Luka fans. They typically could give a crap about the Mavs as long as Luka plays well.

I'm just curious, What category does the fan who compared the 2023 roster to that of 2011 belong to?

Comparing McGee to TC was one of the best trolls I've ever read... ah no, wait... were you serious? oops...

[ejs78]

No, it will be "new scary CBA" fault

Don't be angry, you can go with Cuban&Powell to casino if you miss them

Oh the CBA where were still waiting for all these team to blow through the 2nd apron in which you failed to name any of the teams? Is that the one you are talking about??? Please come get me when the Hornets start spending boatloads this money which you suggest.

Also I need more emojis so whatever you can do to help please do so.

Exactly the same number of teams as there would have been without this "new scary CBA", teams will spend more money independently from that.
Nothing significant will change just like i told you.

I'm waiting too see how teams will blow out roster for money, it's you who talks about change so it's up to you to bring evidence to support your thesis but for now we're just hot air.

The first FA was even more expensive than the previous ones so the clues aren't exactly proving you right... sorry. But i have time, i'm sure you can argument better next year. O maybe not

How am I to bring up evidence to my thesis when the penalties haven't kicked in yet and the first year of this was the softest of the new CBA. Good job on naming all those 2nd apron teams like the Spurs.

Little disappointed you only used one emoji in that last post.

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[GermanFan120]

It's always interesting to see the dichotomy of opinions on Cuban with Mavs fans. I understand fans being frustrated with his decisions post 2011. He made gambles, particularly on free agency, and it didn't work out. He wasted Dirk's latter half of his career. Think everyone agrees on that and it sucks it worked out that way.

But this franchise was in the trash bin before he came. It's not hyperbole to say he saved the team. We literally went from bottom 5 team to a top 5 team the year he came in and went on a spending spree. I appreciate what he did for the franchise. I just hope as a fan that new ownership is willing to spend and do what it takes to make this team a contender in the near future.

Casual fans tend to forget how hard it is to win a championship. Remember 2006? Not mentioning how we won in 2011 was truly a fairy tale. The day Mavs won I told my wife I'm content as a Mavs fan if I only get to witness one championship and it is this one, that's how special it was.

Ah well if winning a title is enough for a lifetime I can't help but feel sorry for fans like you, what do you follow the matches for? since you are already accomplished sportingly, give yourself to bird watching. Maybe it's best for you

Cuban blow out the team after 2011 and went cheap for 10 straight years, we reached the WCF in 2022 and blow out the team again not paying Brunson (I urge everyone to believe that Brunson is the bad guy and Cuban is the poor naive screwed guy ) and went cheap again.
Those are facts, not users opinions... So difficult to dismantle from your group of great minds

You and some other users are the best fan base for a owner like Cuban. Well done. Keep it up please, don't open your eyes. Never.

And i'm sorry for your wife, I guess she's jealous since you always think about me

Don't open your mouth. Never.
I am sorry you don't even have a loved one since you have no one to think about but Powell. LMAO

[GermanFan120]

No, it will be "new scary CBA" fault

Don't be angry, you can go with Cuban&Powell to casino if you miss them

Oh the CBA where were still waiting for all these team to blow through the 2nd apron in which you failed to name any of the teams? Is that the one you are talking about??? Please come get me when the Hornets start spending boatloads this money which you suggest.

Also I need more emojis so whatever you can do to help please do so.

Exactly the same number of teams as there would have been without this "new scary CBA", teams will spend more money independently from that.
Nothing significant will change just like i told you.

I'm waiting too see how teams will blow out roster for money, it's you who talks about change so it's up to you to bring evidence to support your thesis but for now we're just hot air.

The first FA was even more expensive than the previous ones so the clues aren't exactly proving you right... sorry. But i have time, i'm sure you can argument better next year. O maybe not

Only a smart guy like you says words like "you can argument"

What does that even mean? I guess Powell can understand that.

[GermanFan120]

Tell me more, especially what numbers I should choose for tonight's lottery.

Yeah, let's trade Luka for Demar Derozan, we can't evaluate trades beforehand, that's at the level of predicting the lottery...

Tell me more. I like your trade attempt. How many picks should we receive?

[41Dirk41]

Casual fans tend to forget how hard it is to win a championship. Remember 2006? Not mentioning how we won in 2011 was truly a fairy tale. The day Mavs won I told my wife I'm content as a Mavs fan if I only get to witness one championship and it is this one, that's how special it was.

Ah well if winning a title is enough for a lifetime I can't help but feel sorry for fans like you, what do you follow the matches for? since you are already accomplished sportingly, give yourself to bird watching. Maybe it's best for you

Cuban blow out the team after 2011 and went cheap for 10 straight years, we reached the WCF in 2022 and blow out the team again not paying Brunson (I urge everyone to believe that Brunson is the bad guy and Cuban is the poor naive screwed guy ) and went cheap again.
Those are facts, not users opinions... So difficult to dismantle from your group of great minds

You and some other users are the best fan base for a owner like Cuban. Well done. Keep it up please, don't open your eyes. Never.

And i'm sorry for your wife, I guess she's jealous since you always think about me

Don't open your mouth. Never.
I am sorry you don't even have a loved one since you have no one to think about but Powell. LMAO

0 arguments post... Good job

[GermanFan120]

Ah well if winning a title is enough for a lifetime I can't help but feel sorry for fans like you, what do you follow the matches for? since you are already accomplished sportingly, give yourself to bird watching. Maybe it's best for you

Cuban blow out the team after 2011 and went cheap for 10 straight years, we reached the WCF in 2022 and blow out the team again not paying Brunson (I urge everyone to believe that Brunson is the bad guy and Cuban is the poor naive screwed guy ) and went cheap again.
Those are facts, not users opinions... So difficult to dismantle from your group of great minds

You and some other users are the best fan base for a owner like Cuban. Well done. Keep it up please, don't open your eyes. Never.

And i'm sorry for your wife, I guess she's jealous since you always think about me

Don't open your mouth. Never.
I am sorry you don't even have a loved one since you have no one to think about but Powell. LMAO

0 arguments post... Good job

I'm letting you taste your own medicine. Enjoy.

[41Dirk41]

Oh the CBA where were still waiting for all these team to blow through the 2nd apron in which you failed to name any of the teams? Is that the one you are talking about??? Please come get me when the Hornets start spending boatloads this money which you suggest.

Also I need more emojis so whatever you can do to help please do so.

Exactly the same number of teams as there would have been without this "new scary CBA", teams will spend more money independently from that.
Nothing significant will change just like i told you.

I'm waiting too see how teams will blow out roster for money, it's you who talks about change so it's up to you to bring evidence to support your thesis but for now we're just hot air.

The first FA was even more expensive than the previous ones so the clues aren't exactly proving you right... sorry. But i have time, i'm sure you can argument better next year. O maybe not

How am I to bring up evidence to my thesis when the penalties haven't kicked in yet and the first year of this was the softest of the new CBA. Good job on naming all those 2nd apron teams like the Spurs.

Little disappointed you only used one emoji in that last post.

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The teams should start preparing to that "new scary CBA" if they were really scared... But i'm sorry it didn't happen

During last FA we have seen crazy contracts just like past years.
Nothing it's changed and nothing will change, put that in your head, contenders will pay taxes and lottery teams will be cheaper. Just like past years.

If your theory is based on the fact that Spurs, Pistons etc etc will not get past the 2nd apron it's not so smart honestly

But your ego is big and you must feed him so go on... Don't worry.

[41Dirk41]

Don't open your mouth. Never.
I am sorry you don't even have a loved one since you have no one to think about but Powell. LMAO

0 arguments post... Good job

I'm letting you taste your own medicine. Enjoy.

I wrote my opinions but you skipped all of course...your is "We won a ring in 24years so Cuban is a good owner".

Not so smart. Really.

[Dirk]

It's always interesting to see the dichotomy of opinions on Cuban with Mavs fans. I understand fans being frustrated with his decisions post 2011. He made gambles, particularly on free agency, and it didn't work out. He wasted Dirk's latter half of his career. Think everyone agrees on that and it sucks it worked out that way.

But this franchise was in the trash bin before he came. It's not hyperbole to say he saved the team. We literally went from bottom 5 team to a top 5 team the year he came in and went on a spending spree. I appreciate what he did for the franchise. I just hope as a fan that new ownership is willing to spend and do what it takes to make this team a contender in the near future.

Casual fans tend to forget how hard it is to win a championship. Remember 2006? Not mentioning how we won in 2011 was truly a fairy tale. The day Mavs won I told my wife I'm content as a Mavs fan if I only get to witness one championship and it is this one, that's how special it was.

Ah well if winning a title is enough for a lifetime I can't help but feel sorry for fans like you, what do you follow the matches for? since you are already accomplished sportingly, give yourself to bird watching. Maybe it's best for you

Cuban blow out the team after 2011 and went cheap for 10 straight years, we reached the WCF in 2022 and blow out the team again not paying Brunson (I urge everyone to believe that Brunson is the bad guy and Cuban is the poor naive screwed guy ) and went cheap again.
Those are facts, not users opinions... So difficult to dismantle from your group of great minds

You and some other users are the best fan base for a owner like Cuban. Well done. Keep it up please, don't open your eyes. Never.

And i'm sorry for your wife, I guess she's jealous since you always think about me

You come off extremely rude in this reply to say the least.

The other user shares a pretty normal personal experience.

You use that experience " I told my wife I'm content as a Mavs fan if I only get to witness one championship and it is this one, that's how special it was" to then go on some rant about how he is or isn't and how fans like him are or aren't.

Not everything has to be a fight or an argument. And what he wrote isn't unusual at all... fans who grew up or lived through the Dirk years know what sense of accomplishment 2011. That doesn't mean more than it should mean.

[Mavrelous]

Please keep it civil, don't involve other people's family members in your arguments, and tone down criticism of poster's line of posting, we're here to complete our hobby of watching basketball, which should be fun, not bickering endlessly.
I repeat my request, if you feel certain poster line of posting isn't to your taste, please ignore him...

[daoneandonly]

Is anyone worried if the new ownership and Kyrie may be a clash? I know Stone mentioned it as well, but it's a valid point. Other than the cold shootign starts, Kyrie has been just fine. But we know he's got a volatile personality and given what has been said about the new owners, may be something that we have to worry about.

[Archx]

After reading more into this story i guess they're actually about expanding their casinos into this area and Cuban has been lobbying for the same thing for a while now. I'm not sure how they'll structure the deal but Cuban would still have 100% control of the basketball related stuff. In a sense he wouldn't be the owner anymore yet it would still be his team. Question is, could they force him out later on.

[Mavrelous]

Is anyone worried if the new ownership and Kyrie may be a clash? I know Stone mentioned it as well, but it's a valid point. Other than the cold shootign starts, Kyrie has been just fine. But we know he's got a volatile personality and given what has been said about the new owners, may be something that we have to worry about.

It is a concern, the Adelsons are very active in Israeli politics, they built up a newspaper from scratch that became the most popular paper in the right wing circles and they fund right wing think tanks there, Kyrie is obviously persona-non-grata in these circles, but they are also business people, they use politics to advance their business ventures not personal or political vendetta so I don't expect intervention in Kyrie wearing Kaffiya in press confs or his support in the Palestinian cause, NBA players and audience is pretty left wing in general so it wouldn't be the smart business move.

[Mavrelous]

After reading more into this story i guess they're actually about expanding their casinos into this area and Cuban has been lobbying for the same thing for a while now. I'm not sure how they'll structure the deal but Cuban would still have 100% control of the basketball related stuff. In a sense he wouldn't be the owner anymore yet it would still be his team. Question is, could they force him out later on.

In good times (like these), when you have major attractions on the team like Luka and Kyrie, arena is sold out, rating are high, they'll let him run it freely, he's friends with the stars, he built the thing, and he knows all the ins and outs, if things turn sour, there is no such thing as Cuban doing what he wants, if they think someone else will do a better job, he's getting replaced.

[daoneandonly]

Is anyone worried if the new ownership and Kyrie may be a clash? I know Stone mentioned it as well, but it's a valid point. Other than the cold shootign starts, Kyrie has been just fine. But we know he's got a volatile personality and given what has been said about the new owners, may be something that we have to worry about.

It is a concern, the Adelsons are very active in Israeli politics, they built up a newspaper from scratch that became the most popular paper in the right wing circles and they fund right wing think tanks there, Kyrie is obviously persona-non-grata in these circles, but they are also business people, they use politics to advance their business ventures not personal or political vendetta so I don't expect intervention in Kyrie wearing Kaffiya in press confs or his support in the Palestinian cause, NBA players and audience is pretty left wing in general so it wouldn't be the smart business move.

Yea I was more concerned of Kyrie being the one who eventually asks out.

[41Dirk41]

After reading more into this story i guess they're actually about expanding their casinos into this area and Cuban has been lobbying for the same thing for a while now. I'm not sure how they'll structure the deal but Cuban would still have 100% control of the basketball related stuff. In a sense he wouldn't be the owner anymore yet it would still be his team. Question is, could they force him out later on.

In good times (like these), when you have major attractions on the team like Luka and Kyrie, arena is sold out, rating are high, they'll let him run it freely, he's friends with the stars, he built the thing, and he knows all the ins and outs, if things turn sour, there is no such thing as Cuban doing what he wants, if they think someone else will do a better job, he's getting replaced.

There is a Cuban before 2011 and a Cuban after 2011... Maybe without salary implications he will return the old Cuban..