Mavs coaching discussion

[ChipotleWest]

Someone is missing from this statement

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Patrick Dumont made it pretty clear a few months ago that he (his family) is the owner and Nico is the GM. Cuban is nothing more than a minority share holder who still attends all the games. He’s nothing more than a figurehead with no power to make changes or sign anyone to a contract.

I never heard why Cuban decided to sell the team? I honestly thought he would be like Jerry Jones and never sell.

[Dmavs12]

The guys got 2 of 3 mavs teams to the playoffs playing good defense. Say what you want about that 22 team, it was a **** team, but they played hard. This years team is playing hard as well. Kidd motivates them to play defense and hustle. If the hate on the guy is for his inability to adjust quickly in games, then you re-tool the assistant coaching staff to help him in this area during games.

Bottom line, keep Kidd and get better X and O coaches to advise him on the bench.

[Mr B]

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Patrick Dumont made it pretty clear a few months ago that he (his family) is the owner and Nico is the GM. Cuban is nothing more than a minority share holder who still attends all the games. He’s nothing more than a figurehead with no power to make changes or sign anyone to a contract.

I never heard why Cuban decided to sell the team? I honestly thought he would be like Jerry Jones and never sell.

Cuban says that he sold the team to Miriam Adelson and her family because his ultimate goal is to have a casino built in Dallas around a new arena for the Mavs. Gambling is not currently legal in Texas but the vote is coming up in 2025. Miriam and her family have a lot of political pull so the thought is she will help get that vote passed.

That’s what Cuban tells everyone however rumor has it that he put a ton of his money into crypto and lost most of it. Word is he had to sell the team to get himself out of the red.

[Mr B]

The guys got 2 of 3 mavs teams to the playoffs playing good defense. Say what you want about that 22 team, it was a **** team, but they played hard. This years team is playing hard as well. Kidd motivates them to play defense and hustle. If the hate on the guy is for his inability to adjust quickly in games, then you re-tool the assistant coaching staff to help him in this area during games.

Bottom line, keep Kidd and get better X and O coaches to advise him on the bench.

Kidd definitely needs someone that can help him with designing plays when coming out of a time out.

[ChipotleWest]

Patrick Dumont made it pretty clear a few months ago that he (his family) is the owner and Nico is the GM. Cuban is nothing more than a minority share holder who still attends all the games. He’s nothing more than a figurehead with no power to make changes or sign anyone to a contract.

I never heard why Cuban decided to sell the team? I honestly thought he would be like Jerry Jones and never sell.

Cuban says that he sold the team to Miriam Adelson and her family because his ultimate goal is to have a casino built in Dallas around a new arena for the Mavs. Gambling is not currently legal in Texas but the vote is coming up in 2025. Miriam and her family have a lot of political pull so the thought is she will help get that vote passed.

That’s what Cuban tells everyone however rumor has it that he put a ton of his money into crypto and lost most of it. Word is he had to sell the team to get himself out of the red.

Yeah what you said at the end makes too much sense. As if his #1 worry is going to be legalized gambling. Like everyone else it's his pocket book.

But I read he still owns 27% of the Mavs, and can make trades and sign players but the new owners have the final say. I don't want Cuban having any say really I'm not a fan of his.

[MassimoPayne]

Unrealistic idea.
Sign JJ Redick as assistand coach. If things go down with Kidd you could promote JJ or Dudley or a combo as head coach. I think JJ has a really good understanding of plays and high basketball IQ. He seems to have a good relationship with Luka.

I don't know if he would do it obviously. But if I was him I would not sign with hot seat Lakers. And Charlotte also sounds very unappealing

[Mr B]

I never heard why Cuban decided to sell the team? I honestly thought he would be like Jerry Jones and never sell.

Cuban says that he sold the team to Miriam Adelson and her family because his ultimate goal is to have a casino built in Dallas around a new arena for the Mavs. Gambling is not currently legal in Texas but the vote is coming up in 2025. Miriam and her family have a lot of political pull so the thought is she will help get that vote passed.

That’s what Cuban tells everyone however rumor has it that he put a ton of his money into crypto and lost most of it. Word is he had to sell the team to get himself out of the red.

Yeah what you said at the end makes too much sense. As if his #1 worry is going to be legalized gambling. Like everyone else it's his pocket book.

But I read he still owns 27% of the Mavs, and can make trades and sign players but the new owners have the final say. I don't want Cuban having any say really I'm not a fan of his.

Cuban has no say in trades or player personnel. He is still a minority shareholder holder and is still allowed to be around the team and he still attends every game. I believe he still travels with the team since he is a minority owner. Patrick Dumont (Miriam Adelson’s son in law) is the guy that runs the team. He made it pretty clear that Nico is the GM and is being allowed to do his job. Cuban has no power to make trades or sign players or sign (or re-sign) coaches. That’s all on Nico and Patrick Dumont. Cuban might still be “the face of the team” but he has no real power, he’s simply a figurehead at this point.

[Mr B]

Unrealistic idea.
Sign JJ Redick as assistand coach. If things go down with Kidd you could promote JJ or Dudley or a combo as head coach. I think JJ has a really good understanding of plays and high basketball IQ. He seems to have a good relationship with Luka.

I don't know if he would do it obviously. But if I was him I would not sign with hot seat Lakers. And Charlotte also sounds very unappealing

Kidd isn’t going anywhere. He’s going to be the long term coach of this team. You should probably just get used to that.

[Darren]

Unrealistic idea.
Sign JJ Redick as assistand coach. If things go down with Kidd you could promote JJ or Dudley or a combo as head coach. I think JJ has a really good understanding of plays and high basketball IQ. He seems to have a good relationship with Luka.

I don't know if he would do it obviously. But if I was him I would not sign with hot seat Lakers. And Charlotte also sounds very unappealing

I think about Finley who's been team leaders under Don Nelson and Popovich for a long time. Drafting well also makes you wonder whether or not it works.

[ChipotleWest]

When we get swept this rush to extend Kidd will look really dumb. I'm not sure why they couldn't let the playoffs playout first "But Luka and Kyrie love Kidd" Wouldn't have mattered if Kawhi was healthy and Mavs lost to Clippers. He wouldn't have this extension at least right now i guarantee that.

[41Dirk41]

Bad deal, bad timing, bad coach.

I like the Nico pride, he want to win a ring without a real coach. That guy has great courage.

Jason Kidd is the new Doc Rivers.

0% coaching skills.
100% (unmotivated) reputation around the league.

Others GM will party all night long.
It's insane how NBA world works.

Goodbye. It's just too much.

If they win a ring and under Kidd does it matter what people think of coaching prowess?

Mr. B, i like a lot your optimism... Just like when you compared our roster in 2021 or 2022 to our championship roster. Funny.
Unfortunately you rarely have right.

We need the better coaching staff in the world to win a ring under Jason Kidd.
For example Kokoskov, Stotts and Casey.


Jason Kidd is not my coach.

[Mr B]

I like the Nico pride, he want to win a ring without a real coach. That guy has great courage.

Jason Kidd is the new Doc Rivers.

0% coaching skills.
100% (unmotivated) reputation around the league.

Others GM will party all night long.
It's insane how NBA world works.

Goodbye. It's just too much.

If they win a ring and under Kidd does it matter what people think of coaching prowess?

Mr. B, i like a lot your optimism... Just like when you compared our roster in 2021 or 2022 to our championship roster. Funny.
Unfortunately you rarely have right.

We need the better coaching staff in the world to win a ring under Jason Kidd.
For example Kokoskov, Stotts and Casey.


Jason Kidd is not my coach.

Clearly he’s not your coach because you don’t play for the team. He IS Luka and Kyrie’s coach though and that’s really because they both want him there. What kind of sense does it make to piss if your two best players. Their best bet would be to upgrade the coaches around Kidd. Prior to Frank Vogel signing on to be the Suns HC the Mavs were trying to add him to the being staff. I would not be surprised if they actually do it this time.

[GermanFan120]

I like the Nico pride, he want to win a ring without a real coach. That guy has great courage.

Jason Kidd is the new Doc Rivers.

0% coaching skills.
100% (unmotivated) reputation around the league.

Others GM will party all night long.
It's insane how NBA world works.

Goodbye. It's just too much.

If they win a ring and under Kidd does it matter what people think of coaching prowess?

Mr. B, i like a lot your optimism... Just like when you compared our roster in 2021 or 2022 to our championship roster. Funny.
Unfortunately you rarely have right.

We need the better coaching staff in the world to win a ring under Jason Kidd.
For example Kokoskov, Stotts and Casey.


Jason Kidd is not my coach.

Kidd is not my coach either because I am not on the roster and Powell is even a way better basketball player than both you and me.

[dygaction]

What Kidd has done good:
1. Team chemistry - managing two superstars with huge concerns of overlap and incompatibility from every talk head and news outlet;
2. Roster building - don't tell me the trades and draft has nothing to do with the head coach;
3. Team defense - everyone buys in, great results since the rotations are settled
4. coach's challenges - one the highest correct rate and usage

[Archx]

4. coach's challenges - one the highest correct rate and usage

Hey, hey, hey.... That's on Luka!!

I have a feeling his finger might fall off after the amount of times he's been swirling it around to challenge something

Watch closely how he's hesitant to challenge but the pressure he gets from Luka and sometimes other player, he simply caves in. But yeah, you could say ultimately it is his decision to do it or not, so i guess it goes both ways.

[dygaction]

4. coach's challenges - one the highest correct rate and usage

Hey, hey, hey.... That's on Luka!!

I have a feeling his finger might fall off after the amount of times he's been swirling it around to challenge something

Watch closely how he's hesitant to challenge but the pressure he gets from Luka and sometimes other player, he simply caves in. But yeah, you could say ultimately it is his decision to do it or not, so i guess it goes both ways.

The coach does not have the best view and the players know exactly what happens the most, especially on who touched the ball last and offensive/defensive fouls. The coach just needs to make sure the players are not stupid enough to bluff. I am sure they have different sets of signals, some are 100%, some are real suggestions for the coach, and some are just to put pressure on refs.

Kidd won 50 challenges this regular season, ranked #5 among all coaches. Surprisingly Popovich only has 22. How can you have one right every four games? Is he protesting the game?

[Archx]

4. coach's challenges - one the highest correct rate and usage

Hey, hey, hey.... That's on Luka!!

I have a feeling his finger might fall off after the amount of times he's been swirling it around to challenge something

Watch closely how he's hesitant to challenge but the pressure he gets from Luka and sometimes other player, he simply caves in. But yeah, you could say ultimately it is his decision to do it or not, so i guess it goes both ways.

The coach does not have the best view and the players know exactly what happens the most, especially on who touched the ball last and offensive/defensive fouls. The coach just needs to make sure the players are not stupid enough to bluff. I am sure they have different sets of signals, some are 100%, some are real suggestions for the coach, and some are just to put pressure on refs.

Kidd won 50 challenges this regular season, ranked #5 among all coaches. Surprisingly Popovich only has 22. How can you have one right every four games? Is he protesting the game?

Yeah fully agree. Players often have a better angle than a coach, so give credit to the coach for trusting them.

Don't know about Pop but i think they're still not playing seriously to win it. I guess he's still taking naps during games and just wants to teleport his team 2 or 3 years down the road when he'll have a better roster.

[MassimoPayne]

Challenges are on the Coach. If Kidd would trust on Luka he had to take 17 challenges a game

[HMFFL]

Challenges are on the Coach. If Kidd would trust on Luka he had to take 17 challenges a game

I concur.
Luka is still maturing and thankfully Kidd doesn't always listen to him.

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[Darren]

I like the Nico pride, he want to win a ring without a real coach. That guy has great courage.

Jason Kidd is the new Doc Rivers.

0% coaching skills.
100% (unmotivated) reputation around the league.

Others GM will party all night long.
It's insane how NBA world works.

Goodbye. It's just too much.

If they win a ring and under Kidd does it matter what people think of coaching prowess?

Mr. B, i like a lot your optimism... Just like when you compared our roster in 2021 or 2022 to our championship roster. Funny.
Unfortunately you rarely have right.

We need the better coaching staff in the world to win a ring under Jason Kidd.
For example Kokoskov, Stotts and Casey.


Jason Kidd is not my coach.

I think Don Nelson kinda right coach in today's NBA.
1. Develop talents from within - under the hard cap, it's a must to maximize talents. Not able to motivate, control and develop talent is a fatal fault. For contending or trades, it's important qualities.
2. Dictate mismatches - there's more diversity in playing style from super big lineup (Minny, Denver), multiple forward lineup (Magic), super small lineup (GSW), ridiculous lineup (SAS) are everywhere. With a smart duo in Luka and Kyrie, you need to dictate the right mismatch to keep the team in rhythm.
3. Analyze the opponents and set the right game plans to turn unfavorable situations into favorable.

Kidd is very raw in all these categories. Leadership in particular is a serious lack. Luckily, the Mavs has Kyrie to fill the void. Otherwise, the Mavs is set to waste Luka's prime.

I really don't want to speak too much. But Kidd is so bad, especially the obsession to small ball. It's a serious fault Luka feels a lot. The Mavs should have swapped the Clippers if the Mavs is being coached right.