Toronto Blue Jays (38-32) @ Texas Rangers (42-26) | June 16-18, 2023

[Mehar]

When will Schneider eventually learn that Cimber should not be trusted in high leverage situations?

[Raider917]

When will Schneider eventually learn that Cimber should not be trusted in high leverage situations?

when he gets fired so propably not soon

[dagger]

Corporate pandering led to Bass being cut while cimber and white are on this roster lol.

Not corporate. The media and a lot of fans wanted him gone, but no matter, he wasn't that good either. The Jays have the usual horrible bullpen. Same problem every year. Failure to develop good relievers internally, so now Atkins will try stem the loss by overpaying in prospects for the next Cimber or Bass or Garcia. Really, Atkins has to go first.

[Randle McMurphy]

Corporate pandering led to Bass being cut while cimber and white are on this roster lol.

Not corporate. The media and a lot of fans wanted him gone, but no matter, he wasn't that good either. The Jays have the usual horrible bullpen. Same problem every year. Failure to develop good relievers internally, so now Atkins will try stem the loss by overpaying in prospects for the next Cimber or Bass or Garcia. Really, Atkins has to go first.

Bass was fine. He had a very good May and was clearly still a major league caliber RP. The problem was the team letting that idiot actually answer questions from the media a week and a half later as if anything productive could come from that instead of what happened.

[Madvillainy2004]

Corporate pandering led to Bass being cut while cimber and white are on this roster lol.

Not corporate. The media and a lot of fans wanted him gone, but no matter, he wasn't that good either. The Jays have the usual horrible bullpen. Same problem every year. Failure to develop good relievers internally, so now Atkins will try stem the loss by overpaying in prospects for the next Cimber or Bass or Garcia. Really, Atkins has to go first.

If Bass really wanted to be on the team he would've taken down the video apologized then just gave some simple platitudes in the media. But he doubled-tripled-quadrupled down on his bigotry. Not sharing crazy "LGBTQ+ people are the devil and evil" is a pretty easy thing to do. Anyways he wasn't having a good season and was flirting with a DFA earlier anyways he's a fringe guy.

[Randle McMurphy]

Corporate pandering led to Bass being cut while cimber and white are on this roster lol.

Not corporate. The media and a lot of fans wanted him gone, but no matter, he wasn't that good either. The Jays have the usual horrible bullpen. Same problem every year. Failure to develop good relievers internally, so now Atkins will try stem the loss by overpaying in prospects for the next Cimber or Bass or Garcia. Really, Atkins has to go first.

If Bass really wanted to be on the team he would've taken down the video apologized then just gave some simple platitudes in the media. But he doubled-tripled-quadrupled down on his bigotry. Not sharing crazy "LGBTQ+ people are the devil and evil" is a pretty easy thing to do. Anyways he wasn't having a good season and was flirting with a DFA earlier anyways he's a fringe guy.

It's an easy thing to do if you're not a complete moron, but clearly he was. The Jays should have had a much better handle on that than they did and not put him in front of the media to completely embarrass the organization.

[Mehar]

Corporate pandering led to Bass being cut while cimber and white are on this roster lol.

Cimber and White should be DFA as soon as both Ryu and Chad Green are ready to pitch again in the MLB level (hopefully in Mid or Late July). Apparently Zach Pop will be out longer. A team aspiring for the post-season should not have White and Cimber on the roster anymore.

[SharoneWright]

Corporate pandering led to Bass being cut while cimber and white are on this roster lol.

Not corporate.

Investor relations. At the highest level.

BlackRock/ESG is underwriting Rogers at this point.

https://fintel.io/so/us/rog/blackrock

https://money.cnn.com/quote/shareholders/shareholders.html?symb=ROG&subView=institutional

They don't care about any fan's opinion. They want you to nod along and buy another hotdog.

[Raps in 4]

Cimber isn't a major league reliever any longer at this point. 6.97 ERA in over 20 innings now.

7.40 after today's meltdown.

[Raps in 4]

Corporate pandering led to Bass being cut while cimber and white are on this roster lol.

Bass sucked. Those two suck as well. The problem isn't corporate pandering. The problem is Shatkins not being able to field a competitive bull pen.

[Raps in 4]

Corporate pandering led to Bass being cut while cimber and white are on this roster lol.

Cimber and White should be DFA as soon as both Ryu and Chad Green are ready to pitch again in the MLB level (hopefully in Mid or Late July). Apparently Zach Pop will be out longer. A team aspiring for the post-season should not have White and Cimber on the roster anymore.

They're not going to DFA White after trading a top pitching prospect for him (lol).

[canz55]

We're a tad overrated is all. Not a pleasant realization.

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[Ranger One]

We have the 7th highest payroll in baseball at $212 million and are underachieving monumentally. If this was any other market, heads would have been rolling by now. I dont understand why every Toronto sports franchise, their fans, its media and its owners/management are so content in watching mediocrity year in year out for seemingly decades. If you take away the Raptors Championship, it looks really effing bleak in terms of sports success in Toronto. We had the Jays in 92 and 93 and the Leafs in 67. A grand total of FOUR championships in 60+ years.

And yet when i listen to sports radio, read social media, watch sports broadcasting here in Toronto, its nothing but bootlicking and excuse making all year round. Its like generations of Toronto and Canadian sports fans as a whole are just in a perpetual state of apathy and indifference. I blame the Leafs fans the most for this. Since their fanaticism lets the Leafs sell out every single game for decades no matter how trash they are. At that point, what incentive do the corporate overlords have in putting together a winning product or having genuine championship aspirations?

Been noticing the same at Raptors games over the years. Once it became "cool" to watch Raptors games they just keep selling out games to casual moms and dads with their kids and to the suits who want to be "seen" for social media clout no matter how trash the product on the court actually is. Its no longer about winning, or pride for your team. Its all just a big jumbled mess of corporate greed and fan apathy/indifference.

[Hottie McShotty]

We have the 7th highest payroll in baseball at $212 million and are underachieving monumentally. If this was any other market, heads would have been rolling by now. I dont understand why every Toronto sports franchise, their fans, its media and its owners/management are so content in watching mediocrity year in year out for seemingly decades. If you take away the Raptors Championship, it looks really effing bleak in terms of sports success in Toronto. We had the Jays in 92 and 93 and the Leafs in 67. A grand total of FOUR championships in 60+ years.

And yet when i listen to sports radio, read social media, watch sports broadcasting here in Toronto, its nothing but bootlicking and excuse making all year round. Its like generations of Toronto and Canadian sports fans as a whole are just in a perpetual state of apathy and indifference. I blame the Leafs fans the most for this. Since their fanaticism lets the Leafs sell out every single game for decades no matter how trash they are. At that point, what incentive do the corporate overlords have in putting together a winning product or having genuine championship aspirations?

Been noticing the same at Raptors games over the years. Once it became "cool" to watch Raptors games they just keep selling out games to casual moms and dads with their kids and to the suits who want to be "seen" for social media clout no matter how trash the product on the court actually is. Its no longer about winning, or pride for your team. Its all just a big jumbled mess of corporate greed and fan apathy/indifference.

BINGO! Couldn't agree with you more Ranger One. Well said. You have my vote for post of the year so far.

[linery88]

We have the 7th highest payroll in baseball at $212 million and are underachieving monumentally. If this was any other market, heads would have been rolling by now. I dont understand why every Toronto sports franchise, their fans, its media and its owners/management are so content in watching mediocrity year in year out for seemingly decades. If you take away the Raptors Championship, it looks really effing bleak in terms of sports success in Toronto. We had the Jays in 92 and 93 and the Leafs in 67. A grand total of FOUR championships in 60+ years.

And yet when i listen to sports radio, read social media, watch sports broadcasting here in Toronto, its nothing but bootlicking and excuse making all year round. Its like generations of Toronto and Canadian sports fans as a whole are just in a perpetual state of apathy and indifference. I blame the Leafs fans the most for this. Since their fanaticism lets the Leafs sell out every single game for decades no matter how trash they are. At that point, what incentive do the corporate overlords have in putting together a winning product or having genuine championship aspirations?

Been noticing the same at Raptors games over the years. Once it became "cool" to watch Raptors games they just keep selling out games to casual moms and dads with their kids and to the suits who want to be "seen" for social media clout no matter how trash the product on the court actually is. Its no longer about winning, or pride for your team. Its all just a big jumbled mess of corporate greed and fan apathy/indifference.

BINGO! Couldn't agree with you more Ranger One. Well said. You have my vote for post of the year so far.

One of the radio hosts on the fan 590 had a segment where he was enraged at the fans ,just before facing TB.He was pissed at how many fans said it would be considered a successful season if the Leafs just won the first round.The host said he wouldn,t have been pleased unless we made it to the ECF at least.It was a great segment.He,s probably been fired by now lol.That just goes to show how brainwashed too many of the fans of each team have become.

[C Court]

Atkins is incompetent. Atkins can’t even win with lots of Rogers money to spend. The Jays minor league rosters don’t have much for fans to look forward to either. Atkins has got to go.

[Mehar]

Atkins is incompetent. Atkins can’t even win with lots of Rogers money to spend. The Jays minor league rosters don’t have much for fans to look forward to either. Atkins has got to go.

Shapiro should go with Atkins also. Year 8 of this Shatkins Regime, and we have Zero Playoff wins. Mediocre Bullpen and Starting Pitching during these 8 years, and a farm system now that is one of the worst in MLB. Yet we heard Shapiro bragging to Bob McCown on the Fan 590 in 2015 when he got hired that his goal was to have the Jays Farm System to be on par with the Rays, and one of the best in MLB during his time here. Fast forward 8 years later, and only one prospect (Ricky Tiedemann is in the top 100, and he has been terrible this year in the minors before being injured). We have a payroll that is three times the Orioles and Rays. 7th highest payroll in MLB, eclipsing other high spending teams like the Astros, Giants, Red Sox, and Braves. Shapiro and Atkins also hired incompetent managers like Montoyo and now Schneider, who are better served being 3rd base coaches.

Both the contracts of Shapiro and Atkins have two years left, but if this team misses the playoffs, Rogers needs to bite the bullet and terminate both of them. You have a solid replacement in James Click waiting in the wings who is VP of Baseball strategy, who won last year in Houston as a GM after spending 3 years presiding over the Astros. Click also spent 15 years coming up the ranks of a terrific Rays organization. He had a track record of success, unlike Shapiro and Atkins, who never won anything in Cleveland and had mediocre teams for years in that city.

[Raps in 4]

We have the 7th highest payroll in baseball at $212 million and are underachieving monumentally. If this was any other market, heads would have been rolling by now. I dont understand why every Toronto sports franchise, their fans, its media and its owners/management are so content in watching mediocrity year in year out for seemingly decades. If you take away the Raptors Championship, it looks really effing bleak in terms of sports success in Toronto. We had the Jays in 92 and 93 and the Leafs in 67. A grand total of FOUR championships in 60+ years.

And yet when i listen to sports radio, read social media, watch sports broadcasting here in Toronto, its nothing but bootlicking and excuse making all year round. Its like generations of Toronto and Canadian sports fans as a whole are just in a perpetual state of apathy and indifference. I blame the Leafs fans the most for this. Since their fanaticism lets the Leafs sell out every single game for decades no matter how trash they are. At that point, what incentive do the corporate overlords have in putting together a winning product or having genuine championship aspirations?

Been noticing the same at Raptors games over the years. Once it became "cool" to watch Raptors games they just keep selling out games to casual moms and dads with their kids and to the suits who want to be "seen" for social media clout no matter how trash the product on the court actually is. Its no longer about winning, or pride for your team. Its all just a big jumbled mess of corporate greed and fan apathy/indifference.

It's really sad. The biggest example of this can be seen on the various sports cities subreddits.

Go on the Jays or Raptors, or even Leafs subreddits and it's kumbaya, everyone is happy, talking about how blessed they are to just have a sports team in their city. Win or lose, they talk about how much fun they're having watching the team.

Then head over to the Yankees or Red Sox or Phillies subreddits and its constant moaning and wanting to fire everyone, even when their teams are winning (which is way more often than ours).

We're one of the worst sports cities in North America, yet our fans are perfectly content with mediocrity from year to year, for decades. I guess being desensitized to losing can do that to people.

[Raps in 4]

Atkins is incompetent. Atkins can’t even win with lots of Rogers money to spend. The Jays minor league rosters don’t have much for fans to look forward to either. Atkins has got to go.

Shapiro should go with Atkins also. Year 8 of this Shatkins Regime, and we have Zero Playoff wins. Mediocre Bullpen and Starting Pitching during these 8 years, and a farm system now that is one of the worst in MLB. Yet we heard Shapiro bragging to Bob McCown on the Fan 590 in 2015 when he got hired that his goal was to have the Jays Farm System to be on par with the Rays, and one of the best in MLB during his time here. Fast forward 8 years later, and only one prospect (Ricky Tiedemann is in the top 100, and he has been terrible this year in the minors before being injured). We have a payroll that is three times the Orioles and Rays. 7th highest payroll in MLB, eclipsing other high spending teams like the Astros, Giants, Red Sox, and Braves. Shapiro and Atkins also hired incompetent managers like Montoyo and now Schneider, who are better served being 3rd base coaches.

Both the contracts of Shapiro and Atkins have two years left, but if this team misses the playoffs, Rogers needs to bite the bullet and terminate both of them. You have a solid replacement in James Click waiting in the wings who is VP of Baseball strategy, who won last year in Houston as a GM after spending 3 years presiding over the Astros. Click also spent 15 years coming up the ranks of a terrific Rays organization. He had a track record of success, unlike Shapiro and Atkins, who never won anything in Cleveland and had mediocre teams for years in that city.

Click is an intriguing candidate and I hope we brought him on as insurance in case we have to fire Dumb and Dumber. I know Ed is friends with Shapiro, but when his $200 million investment isn't performing to expectations, he might be forced to act.

[linery88]

Not corporate.

Investor relations. At the highest level.

BlackRock/ESG is underwriting Rogers at this point.

https://fintel.io/so/us/rog/blackrock

https://money.cnn.com/quote/shareholders/shareholders.html?symb=ROG&subView=institutional

They don't care about any fan's opinion. They want you to nod along and buy another hotdog.

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