Breaking: Varsho in, Moreno, Gurriel out

linery88 · Post #21 » by **linery88** » Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:20 pm

Cant wait to hear his explanation.

ItsDanger · Post #22 » by **ItsDanger** » Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:22 pm

Sounds like an overpayment if its just 2 for 1.

linery88 · Post #23 » by **linery88** » Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:24 pm

They both must be pissed about the trade,and Teo.Its not good losing guys that like playing for you.
Varshow is a LHB.Must also be good defensively,and thats what Atkins will say.

Raider917 · Post #24 » by **Raider917** » Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:25 pm

how is this good for the jays if hes another catcher?

T-d0t · Post #25 » by **T-d0t** » Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:25 pm

Holy overpay

WuTang_OG · Post #26 » by **WuTang_OG** » Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:25 pm

Had a feeling gurriel was on the block after trading Teo. Points to emphasis of changing clubhouse

Michael Bradley · Post #27 » by **Michael Bradley** » Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:26 pm

Varsho had a 4.6 WAR last season, higher than any Jays position player in 2022 (Bichette lead with a 4.5 WAR). He is a left handed bat with power who plays a great centerfield and can also catch, so he's effectively the 3rd catcher on the roster as well. If you want to argue that Moreno should have been traded for a more established "star", then that's fine, but Varsho is pretty much the dictionary definition of what the Jays needed and comes with 4 more years of team control.

Whether the trade ends up working out for the Jays remains to be seen, but it's a pretty logical swap.

guvernator · Post #28 » by **guvernator** » Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:27 pm

daulton varsho is not good... like nothing about his offensive profile is exciting. Unless Shatkins think that Moreno's loss of power stroke is real, this is another **** trade in a line of **** trades.
Essentially, if Bo and Vlad don't stick around in 3 years, this team is absolutely back in the tank again. (also clearly, staying below the tax threshold is a thing in this case. FU Rogers).

Hottie McShotty · Post #29 » by **Hottie McShotty** » Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:28 pm

ItsDanger wrote:Sounds like an overpayment if its just 2 for 1.

There must be another player or more coming back. There is no way this just happened.

Madvillainy2004 · Post #30 » by **Madvillainy2004** » Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:29 pm

guvernator wrote:daulton varsho is not good... like nothing about his offensive profile is exciting. Unless Shatkins think that Moreno's loss of power stroke is real, this is another **** trade in a line of **** trades.
Essentially, if Bo and Vlad don't stick around in 3 years, this team is absolutely back in the tank again. (also clearly, staying below the tax threshold is a thing in this case. FU Rogers).

This trade was about defense. And he's had a higher war than anyone on our team last year. You can be meh on the trade but Varsho is good.

primecougar · Post #31 » by **primecougar** » Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:29 pm

Whats everyone complaining about? We got the best outfield defender from last year that can hit for power, is a lefty, and can catch.

Moreno is still a nice prospect and gurriel is 27 and will be a free agent next year

Madvillainy2004 · Post #32 » by **Madvillainy2004** » Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:31 pm

primecougar wrote:Whats everyone complaining about? We got the best outfield defender from last year that can hit for power, is a lefty, and can catch.

Moreno is still a nice prospect and gurriel is 27 and will be a free agent next year

I don't care for Gurriell at all lol was a idiot in the field, has 0 power now. His best value was his 7/21 contract.

T-d0t · Post #33 » by **T-d0t** » Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:31 pm

Twitter keeps referencing this site.

Hoopstarr · Post #34 » by **Hoopstarr** » Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:32 pm

Holy **** this is bad. Someone please convince me otherwise. The #3 overall prospect AND Gurriel (who is on a great deal) feels like a massive overpay for a 106 wRC+ 26 year old with one good season.

hyper316 · Post #35 » by **hyper316** » Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:32 pm

Varsho offensive number looks meh, good on defense. Just wished I saw more than 1 full season of work

Brinbe · Post #36 » by **Brinbe** » Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:33 pm

oh sht. all-in, eh. i'll miss ya, gabby

DelAbbot · Post #37 » by **DelAbbot** » Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:33 pm

T-d0t wrote:Twitter keeps referencing this site.

lol at the casuals referring to this site as if it can predict value of prospects

Fairview4Life · Post #38 » by **Fairview4Life** » Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:34 pm

Don’t get the “reclamation project” and he’s not good talk. He’s definitely good. And the timeline is good. It’s just if he’s Moreno and Gurriel good.

linery88 · Post #39 » by **linery88** » Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:34 pm

I hope Schneider doesn,t go nuts on the guy...moving him all over the place lol.

DelAbbot · Post #40 » by **DelAbbot** » Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:34 pm

hyper316 wrote:Varsho offensive number looks meh, good on defense. Just wished I saw more than 1 full season of work

career .234 with wRC+ 101
last year .235 with wRC+ 106