Blue Jays (38-28) at White Sox (31-33) - June 20-22

Mehar · Post #301 » by **Mehar** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 4:40 am

Easily the worst performance by an Umpire in years. Made Angel Hernandez look like a Great Umpire. A terrible performance by Romano helped to prolong this misery, watching this garbage Umpire call his balls and strikes.

Randle McMurphy · Post #302 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 4:41 am

JaysRule15 wrote:Man, what a soulcrushing L.

More because of having to watch that umpiring for me. Our pitching allowed 21 baserunners in that one, we hardly deserved it.

Post #303 » by **Schad** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 4:41 am

Read on Twitter

That's six called strikes that were demonstrably outside the zone on Espinal alone.

Madvillainy2004 · Post #304 » by **Madvillainy2004** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 4:42 am

Doug Eddings just waterboarded my love of baseball for 4 hours

linery88 · Post #305 » by **linery88** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 4:43 am

Good to see Bo losing it like that.It wont hurt or help,just good to see it.

Madvillainy2004 · Post #306 » by **Madvillainy2004** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 4:45 am

Schad wrote:

Read on Twitter

That's six called strikes that were demonstrably outside the zone on Espinal alone.

Basketball Twitter would say Doug Eddings was in his bag tonight.

Randle McMurphy · Post #307 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 4:45 am

Schad wrote:

Read on Twitter

That's six called strikes that were demonstrably outside the zone on Espinal alone.

Mehar · Post #308 » by **Mehar** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 4:47 am

The terrible umpiring aside, Shapiro/Atkins need to definitely shore up the Bullpen. We have depth at Catching, and Jansen along with a couple of mid-tier prospects should potentially bring back two very good high leverage Relievers. Bullpen had been overworked this year, with guys like Kikuchi barely throwing 3-4 innings at times.

linery88 · Post #309 » by **linery88** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 4:57 am

These umpires dont give a **** anymore.They figure they are going to be replaced soon anyways,but not next year.Manfred said robo-umps wont happen next season.The question I have is,what happens if robo-umps dont work either.

TOStateofMind · Post #310 » by **TOStateofMind** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 5:00 am

Schad wrote:

Read on Twitter

That's six called strikes that were demonstrably outside the zone on Espinal alone.

just an all timer..and we had to suffer through 12 innings of this sh** lol

Mehar · Post #311 » by **Mehar** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 5:03 am

linery88 wrote:These umpires dont give a **** anymore.They figure they are going to be replaced soon anyways,but not next year.Manfred said robo-umps wont happen next season.The question I have is,what happens if robo-umps dont work either.

The Robot Umpire can not do much worse than Doug Eddings. Not sure if he was drunk tonight, but that was one of the worst performances I have ever seen behind the plate for both teams.

Raps in 4 · Post #312 » by **Raps in 4** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 5:13 am

linery88 wrote:These umpires dont give a **** anymore.They figure they are going to be replaced soon anyways,but not next year.Manfred said robo-umps wont happen next season.The question I have is,what happens if robo-umps dont work either.

How would robo umps not work?

Multiple tennis tournaments, including grand slams, switched to robo umps one or two years ago. There hasn't been a single missed call. They're literally the definition of infallible.

Post #313 » by **Schad** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 5:22 am

Raps in 4 wrote:
linery88 wrote:These umpires dont give a **** anymore.They figure they are going to be replaced soon anyways,but not next year.Manfred said robo-umps wont happen next season.The question I have is,what happens if robo-umps dont work either.

How would robo umps not work?

Multiple tennis tournaments, including grand slams, switched to robo umps one or two years ago. There hasn't been a single missed call. They're literally the definition of infallible.

And the baseball tech is already in place and very reliable. The Statcast ball tracker is, by all accounts, extremely accurate.

It is a bit amusing that MLB wants to make the umpires' jobs far easier (while also paying them the same) and they're all like "nah, I demand to be able to continually embarrass myself on national television".

Mehar · Post #314 » by **Mehar** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 5:36 am

Games with Robot Umpires are now being tried out in AAA, if I am not mistaken. The Statcast Ball is very accurate, and the technology is in place. Baseball fans of all teams, have had enough of clowns like Doug Eddings and Angel Hernandez calling Balls and Strikes.

linery88 · Post #315 » by **linery88** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 5:37 am

Raps in 4 wrote:
linery88 wrote:These umpires dont give a **** anymore.They figure they are going to be replaced soon anyways,but not next year.Manfred said robo-umps wont happen next season.The question I have is,what happens if robo-umps dont work either.

How would robo umps not work?

Multiple tennis tournaments, including grand slams, switched to robo umps one or two years ago. There hasn't been a single missed call. They're literally the definition of infallible.

I,m just lowering my expectations ,just in case.
Plus,there has been reporting about issues,and bugs that have to be worked out,and not sure about how long that will take.
Auto calls are way easier for tennis lines than they would be for a baseball strike zone-IMO.
I hope it works,but wont be shocked if it doesn,t.

johanliebert · Post #316 » by **johanliebert** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 5:38 am

Raps in 4 wrote:
linery88 wrote:These umpires dont give a **** anymore.They figure they are going to be replaced soon anyways,but not next year.Manfred said robo-umps wont happen next season.The question I have is,what happens if robo-umps dont work either.

How would robo umps not work?

Multiple tennis tournaments, including grand slams, switched to robo umps one or two years ago. There hasn't been a single missed call. They're literally the definition of infallible.

Hawk eye indeed has got a few calls wrong it’s not perfect.

Post #317 » by **Schad** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 5:50 am

johanliebert wrote:Hawk eye indeed has got a few calls wrong it’s not perfect.

But it's far, far more accurate than what it replaced.

MLB's system has an average deviation of .25", and a maximum deviation of less than .5":

https://technology.mlblogs.com/introducing-statcast-2020-hawk-eye-and-google-cloud-a5f5c20321b8

Doug Eddings, meanwhile, called almost 20 pitches as strikes that were more than an inch off the plate, including several that were 4+ inches away. There really isn't a comparison here.

Post #318 » by **Schad** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 6:16 am

And it's confirmed: Eddings set a new season high for number of missed calls. Granted, it was an extra inning game, but they were also a particularly egregious 29 missed calls...he strangely got a lot of the borderline ones correct, while managing to **** up pitches that were no-doubters.

Read on Twitter

Randle McMurphy · Post #319 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 6:25 am

Schad wrote:And it's confirmed: Eddings set a new season high for number of missed calls. Granted, it was an extra inning game, but they were also a particularly egregious 29 missed calls...he strangely got a lot of the borderline ones correct, while managing to **** up pitches that were no-doubters.

I was thinking at the end there that it was going to be around 30. Incredible.

My hope is that they somehow give the guy a Yankees playoff game and he has that kind of performance. It would effectively force the league into making the robot umpire change sooner that they otherwise would.

Fairview4Life · Post #320 » by **Fairview4Life** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 10:55 am

Randle McMurphy wrote:
Schad wrote:Just end it. I don't think my psyche can handle any more of this ballgame and this umpiring.

Espinal might be the most mild-mannered person in baseball. After the sequence of calls that have gone against him, the Dalai Lama would have gotten tossed.

Bautista would have been gone 3.5 hours ago with these calls.

Still one of the best quotes of all time.

"Sometimes I have trouble more than other players dealing with my production being affected by somebody else's mediocrity. It's just the way that I am as a person, it's a tougher pill to swallow for me sometimes."