Toronto Blue Jays (11-8) @ New York Yankees (12-7) | April 21-23, 2023

[Mehar]

Missed the game (was at Wonderland). Why did we pull Manoah at the start of the 8th? His pitch count was still low, and it seems like he was doing well?

Manoah should not have been pulled, but if he was going to be pulled- Swanson should have been the guy to pitch the 8th and not Garcia. However, with the Bottom of the lineup for the Yankees, Manoah should have pitched another Inning. Mismanagement by

Schneider, but what really cost the game was an Atrocious offense that could not get it done with RISP. Especially a scrub like Cavan Biggio, who has no business being in the MLB except that he is a Son of a Hall of Famer- who could not even Bunt properly to save his life. A team serious about winning, should DFA Biggio or give him a job selling Popcorn in the stands at the Rogers Centre.

[linery88]

Now is the time to let pitchers like Manoah pitch late into games.The weather is cool,and he loves pitching deep.When it gets hot is the time to limit a starter more.
Stop being so predictable eh Schneider.

[Raps in 4]

Missed the game (was at Wonderland). Why did we pull Manoah at the start of the 8th? His pitch count was still low, and it seems like he was doing well?

[Raps in 4]

Gurriel has been more productive at the plate overall than Varsho, who has been terrible the past couple of weeks hitting wise. We all know Varsho is better defensively. The deal was a 2 for 1, and I was just mentioning how the announcers stated that the Arizona front office felt very fortunate that they got both Moreno and Gurriel included for Varsho.

Do not talk about simply Gurriel vs. Varsho, but factor in how the Jays took the risk of dealing a 23 year old talent like Moreno who has been exceptional defensively in his first year. Moreno is also hitting very well after a tough first week of the season. While Kirk has had his troubles throwing runners out stealing, Moreno is excelling in that department. Obviously, it is a long season, but hoping Varsho turns it around at the plate.

Except for the fact that Varsho has a 87 wRC+ to Gurriel's 80 wRC+, right?

Gurriel is giving them nothing offensively while also being the worst defensive outfielder in the sport.

So, why you leaving out Moreno out of the equation? Why is it simply Gurriel vs. Varsho. If you are looking at hitting statistics, I factor in OPS and batting average much more as well. Gurriel after a slow start is hitting .267 as of right now vs. Varsho who is at .222. Gurriel has the higher OPS also. Simply looking at WRC, and ignoring OPS and batting average does not do it for me.

Factor in Moreno's production, and Arizona is happy right now for a reason that the Jays agreed to the 2 for 1 swap. Varsho is the one giving nothing offensively right now. He is hitting very close to the Mendoza line the last 15 games, after a good first week. Cannot say the same about Gurriel and Moreno right now, who are hitting around .290 the last 15 games.

Moreno's production:

82 wRC+
+0.3 fWAR

I think Moreno was worth more than Varsho and I think we could have gotten a better player back. Having said that, Moreno and Gurriel have both sucked this season. Neither one (or both) in the lineup instead of Varsho would make us better right now.

[Asianiac_24]

I do think Kirk should be hitting 4 or 5 with Chapman. Varsho is definitely not a good enough batter to hit over Kirk. When Chapman cools off to the norm, Kirk should be 4, Chapman 5 and Varsho 6

[Hottie McShotty]

Tampa is running away with the division. I know it's still early, but we need to put a streak of wins to keep pace. Our schedule hasn't been great to start either.

[Hottie McShotty]

Missed the game (was at Wonderland). Why did we pull Manoah at the start of the 8th? His pitch count was still low, and it seems like he was doing well?

Imagine the Jays record if they had a manager that wasnt in way over his head! 7 innings, 2 hits, 0 runs, 85 pitches, 7-8-9 due up.

[Boogie!]

Missed the game (was at Wonderland). Why did we pull Manoah at the start of the 8th? His pitch count was still low, and it seems like he was doing well?

Imagine the Jays record if they had a manager that wasnt in way over his head! 7 innings, 2 hits, 0 runs, 85 pitches, 7-8-9 due up.

While I agree manoah should've gone one more, to be fair our bullpen should be sble to handle 7-8-9. And then there's blowmano who can't even record 1 out. And then there's our offense who couldn't even score until the 9th inning. So it's not like that one 2 run Homer Is what cost them the game.

[polo007]

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[Boogie!]

Gausman paint. what a pitch. Rizzo thought it was another splitter.

[LBJKB24MJ23]

man i know the Jays are just trying to coax more pitches out of the opposing starting pitchers but are leaving a lot of balls down the middle without the thought of swinging at them. easier said than done but just as a person watching ball after ball being missed is kinda frustrating at that very moment. lol

[LBJKB24MJ23]

chapmans throws across the diamond are so good.

[Boogie!]

Another boring low scoring game for the jaus.

[TOStateofMind]

Didn’t know we were facing degrom today

[LBJKB24MJ23]

Another boring low scoring game for the jaus.

as long as its not a heartbreaker for the Jays, i'm all good for it lol

lets go for the series win.

[Boogie!]

Another boring low scoring game for the jaus.

as long as its not a heartbreaker for the Jays, i'm all good for it lol

lets go for the series win.

Idk I'd rather see the offense wake up.

[LBJKB24MJ23]

Another boring low scoring game for the jaus.

as long as its not a heartbreaker for the Jays, i'm all good for it lol

lets go for the series win.

Idk I'd rather see the offense wake up.

its all about our starting pitching right now and they haven't disaponted.

the offense is struggling mightily. I think maybe move the hitters around the lineup.

[LBJKB24MJ23]

how are the Jays team struggling so mightily against this pitcher.

[LBJKB24MJ23]

i'm amazed how great our starting pitching is but our offense is the thing struggling.

[LBJKB24MJ23]

lol Chapman could have 3 if he saw/notified by Rivera (tough to trust tbh lol)