Jays vs Rays - May 22 to 25, 2023

Michael Bradley · Post #41 » by **Michael Bradley** » Tue May 23, 2023 2:05 pm

Varsho for Moreno/Gurriel was more defensible given team need and team surplus. Whether it ends up working out is another story, but there was logic behind the trade. The Frasso/White deal was more indefensible since good/smart teams develop guys like White, they don't trade real prospects for him.

bluerap23 · Post #42 » by **bluerap23** » Tue May 23, 2023 2:46 pm

Michael Bradley wrote:Varsho for Moreno/Gurriel was more defensible given team need and team surplus. Whether it ends up working out is another story, but there was logic behind the trade. The Frasso/White deal was more indefensible since good/smart teams develop guys like White, they don't trade real prospects for him.

Yeah, I’m not overly worried about the Varsho deal because he will provide good value long term in a high value position where we were weakest.

Hard to justify trading a legit prospect (even if he was coming off injury) for a 6th starter type though.

Hottie McShotty · Post #43 » by **Hottie McShotty** » Tue May 23, 2023 5:08 pm

This is a small ball team. They can't score with RISP and have no power. Vladdy is a good player but will never be a superstar like Judge. The bullpen has been underwhelming so far. It's not a great pen even when everyone is healthy. Another year without putting together a good bullpen. We keep doing this year after year after year. Management has failed us again.

whysoserious · Post #44 » by **whysoserious** » Tue May 23, 2023 5:37 pm

How quickly the season turned. Over a week ago we swept the Braves at home and were looking to push past the Orioles, we proceed to s*** the bed for a week and we're down to fifth while playing all AL east teams. Thank goodness for the balanced schedule otherwise we'd be locked in for last this season in the division the way things are going.

Raps in 4 · Post #45 » by **Raps in 4** » Tue May 23, 2023 6:18 pm

Mehar wrote:
Hottie McShotty wrote:can we swap places with a team in the Central division? we'd be in 1st place if we did.

I cannot recall what year the Jays could have moved to the AL Central, but I remember reading an article over a decade ago where the Jays could have moved to the AL Central. However, ownership wanted to stay in the AL East due to the extra revenue and ratings it generated in home games with the Yankees and Red Sox in town. Big time blunder that cost this team a few potential AL Central Division titles over the years.

I like being in this division. It makes winning that much sweeter. Boston, NY, and TB are our rivals in other sports too, so it makes sense to be in the same division with them here too.

Tampa Bay shows us that it's possible to consistently dominate this division even with a little league payroll. The problem is we continue to hire clowns to run this team (and the one time we had a decent GM, we let him go, to hire another clown).

Raps in 4 · Post #46 » by **Raps in 4** » Tue May 23, 2023 6:21 pm

Mehar wrote:
Hottie McShotty wrote:Gurriel Jr. extended his hit streak to 15 games last night. That Varsho trade looking better by the day! Thanks Shatkins!

The Nick Frasso for Mitch White trade is another one that will likely bite us for the years to come. Based on how dominant Frasso has been in the Minors this year, and some NL scouts are saying he reminds them of a younger and taller Jake Arrieta at 6 foot 5; while White has been terrible since he got here. A NL scout said Toronto will regret this deal. Time will tell.

This FO is beyond terrible at evaluating pitching talent. They probably didn't even see the potential in Frasso when they traded him. It's telling that in 8 years we've only developed a single MLB-level starter.

linery88 · Post #47 » by **linery88** » Tue May 23, 2023 10:42 pm

Good lineup tonight...could be better,but we could score some runs.

Hottie McShotty · Post #48 » by **Hottie McShotty** » Tue May 23, 2023 10:59 pm

Berrios pitches like he's scared.

Potential · Post #49 » by **Potential** » Tue May 23, 2023 11:46 pm

Wow this could be the biggest upset in mlb history if we hold on to this lead

linery88 · Post #50 » by **linery88** » Tue May 23, 2023 11:51 pm

Jano has to keep wearing his red gear whenever he catches anybody.Berrios hitting his targets a lot.

Brinbe · Post #51 » by **Brinbe** » Wed May 24, 2023 12:02 am

they've been due for a game like this

TOStateofMind · Post #52 » by **TOStateofMind** » Wed May 24, 2023 12:03 am

keep on adding on, no lead is safe here lol

Brinbe · Post #53 » by **Brinbe** » Wed May 24, 2023 12:04 am

lol we did this to the braves too.

TOStateofMind · Post #54 » by **TOStateofMind** » Wed May 24, 2023 12:42 am

springer doing it all

Hottie McShotty · Post #55 » by **Hottie McShotty** » Wed May 24, 2023 12:46 am

THAT'S MORE LIKE IT BABY!

linery88 · Post #56 » by **linery88** » Wed May 24, 2023 12:48 am

If we lose..Schneider will be fired right after the game lol.

Hottie McShotty · Post #57 » by **Hottie McShotty** » Wed May 24, 2023 12:57 am

VLADDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

Hottie McShotty · Post #58 » by **Hottie McShotty** » Wed May 24, 2023 12:59 am

17-1 with 24 hits... wow..

Brinbe · Post #59 » by **Brinbe** » Wed May 24, 2023 1:00 am

LET YA NUTS HANG, BOYS. STOMP THEM

Hottie McShotty · Post #60 » by **Hottie McShotty** » Wed May 24, 2023 1:01 am

what's the record for hits in a game?