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Re: GT: Jays @ Rockies / Sept 1-3 

Post#561 » by Randle McMurphy » Sun Sep 3, 2023 11:26 pm

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hst420 wrote:Next year's lineup..

1. B. Bichette SS
2. A. Barger 3B
3. D. Schneider 2B
4. O. Martinez DH
5. S. Horwitz 1B
6. D. Jansen C
7. D. Varsho LF
8. G. Springer RF
9. K. Keimeier CF

Bench: Clement, Kirk, Merrifield

**** Vlad and Chapman YOLO


Kiermaier will find another wallet somewhere else.

I'd have to assume Whit is definitely gone too.
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Re: GT: Jays @ Rockies / Sept 1-3 

Post#562 » by GoRapstheoriginal » Sun Sep 3, 2023 11:26 pm

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Re: GT: Jays @ Rockies / Sept 1-3 

Post#563 » by Boogie! » Sun Sep 3, 2023 11:26 pm

So is our minor league system good or not.
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Re: GT: Jays @ Rockies / Sept 1-3 

Post#564 » by hst420 » Sun Sep 3, 2023 11:26 pm

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hst420 wrote:Next year's lineup..

1. B. Bichette SS
2. A. Barger 3B
3. D. Schneider 2B
4. O. Martinez DH
5. S. Horwitz 1B
6. D. Jansen C
7. D. Varsho LF
8. G. Springer RF
9. K. Keimeier CF

Bench: Clement, Kirk, Merrifield

**** Vlad and Chapman YOLO

We're selling low on Vlad in this scenario so some other team/hitting coach can fix him and make him a superstar? I don't like that plan.


He'll be out of the league in 3 years tops.. below average first baseman, with the topspin BAIBP curse... great quadruple A player though.. big washout.
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Re: GT: Jays @ Rockies / Sept 1-3 

Post#565 » by Mehar » Sun Sep 3, 2023 11:27 pm

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Randle McMurphy wrote:Where has Clement been all season?


Schneider, Horwitz, and Clement all had quietly very good seasons in Buffalo. They've all earned serious looks in the spring.

Schneider is a near lock to take Kiermaier's OF spot next year (with Varsho moving to CF full time). I don't see a spot for Horwitz, aside from Belt's job as platoon DH. I don't know if Clement can play a passable 2B or 3B, but he may take Espinal's job next season.

I rather have Schneider as Regular Second Baseman. Want both Biggio and Espinal off the team with their Arbitration Declined, and use that 5 million elsewhere. Clement should definitely take one of those spots. Let Barger and Martinez fight for the other one.
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Re: GT: Jays @ Rockies / Sept 1-3 

Post#566 » by hst420 » Sun Sep 3, 2023 11:27 pm

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Randle McMurphy wrote:
hst420 wrote:Next year's lineup..

1. B. Bichette SS
2. A. Barger 3B
3. D. Schneider 2B
4. O. Martinez DH
5. S. Horwitz 1B
6. D. Jansen C
7. D. Varsho LF
8. G. Springer RF
9. K. Keimeier CF

Bench: Clement, Kirk, Merrifield

**** Vlad and Chapman YOLO

We're selling low on Vlad in this scenario so some other team/hitting coach can fix him and make him a superstar? I don't like that plan.


He'll be out of the league in 3 years tops.. below average first baseman, with the topspin BAIBP curse... great quadruple A player though.. big washout.


Or you can sign him to a contract he'll never live into..
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Re: GT: Jays @ Rockies / Sept 1-3 

Post#567 » by Randle McMurphy » Sun Sep 3, 2023 11:27 pm

hst420 wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:
hst420 wrote:Next year's lineup..

1. B. Bichette SS
2. A. Barger 3B
3. D. Schneider 2B
4. O. Martinez DH
5. S. Horwitz 1B
6. D. Jansen C
7. D. Varsho LF
8. G. Springer RF
9. K. Keimeier CF

Bench: Clement, Kirk, Merrifield

**** Vlad and Chapman YOLO

We're selling low on Vlad in this scenario so some other team/hitting coach can fix him and make him a superstar? I don't like that plan.


He'll be out of the league in 3 years tops.. below average first baseman, with the topspin BAIBP curse... great quadruple A player though.. big washout.

I would doubt it. He's been hitting rockets for most of the season, just on the ground. You get some team who gets him pulling the ball in the air even a bit and he's putting up all-star seasons until he's 30.
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Re: GT: Jays @ Rockies / Sept 1-3 

Post#568 » by hst420 » Sun Sep 3, 2023 11:28 pm

Plus you can't fix stupid, Vlad has low IQ we've seen it.
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Re: GT: Jays @ Rockies / Sept 1-3 

Post#569 » by JN » Sun Sep 3, 2023 11:29 pm

Frustrating play but a 4-2 week, and we moved from 3.5 from the WC (against 3 teams) down to 1.5, 2, 2.5

Need another 4-2 week at minimum but that puts pressure in tough games after that. 5-1 is probably necessary.

Then we need to wake up against real teams.

Thankfully Schneider, Horwitz and Clement have come to play, unlike some of our vets.
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Re: GT: Jays @ Rockies / Sept 1-3 

Post#570 » by hst420 » Sun Sep 3, 2023 11:30 pm

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hst420 wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:We're selling low on Vlad in this scenario so some other team/hitting coach can fix him and make him a superstar? I don't like that plan.


He'll be out of the league in 3 years tops.. below average first baseman, with the topspin BAIBP curse... great quadruple A player though.. big washout.

I would doubt it. He's been hitting rockets for most of the season, just on the ground. You get some team who gets him pulling the ball in the air even a bit and he's putting up all-star seasons until he's 30.


Yeah that's his upside best case scenario.. he's nowhere near his father's talent.
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Re: GT: Jays @ Rockies / Sept 1-3 

Post#571 » by hst420 » Sun Sep 3, 2023 11:32 pm

Peak Vlad senior had speed, arm, best hand-eye and big pop, great baseball IQ.
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Re: GT: Jays @ Rockies / Sept 1-3 

Post#572 » by TOStateofMind » Sun Sep 3, 2023 11:32 pm

Had to have this series and they pulled it out. Can they get on a decent win streak for once now?
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Re: GT: Jays @ Rockies / Sept 1-3 

Post#573 » by hst420 » Sun Sep 3, 2023 11:34 pm

Jays still have a legit chance, of course it'll depend on how well they play against the Rays and Yankees.. like always.
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Re: GT: Jays @ Rockies / Sept 1-3 

Post#574 » by Mehar » Sun Sep 3, 2023 11:34 pm

Randle McMurphy wrote:
Lateral Quicks wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:Where has Clement been all season?


Schneider, Horwitz, and Clement all had quietly very good seasons in Buffalo. They've all earned serious looks in the spring.

Schneider is a near lock to take Kiermaier's OF spot next year (with Varsho moving to CF full time). I don't see a spot for Horwitz, aside from Belt's job as platoon DH. I don't know if Clement can play a passable 2B or 3B, but he may take Espinal's job next season.

Is Schneider good enough defensively to play 2B full-time for them? Early returns have not been good there though.

I believe he can be. An off-season and spring training preparing to play Second Base will also help him, instead of him being moved around in the infield and LF all year.
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Re: GT: Jays @ Rockies / Sept 1-3 

Post#575 » by Randle McMurphy » Sun Sep 3, 2023 11:34 pm

TOStateofMind wrote:Had to have this series and they pulled it out. Can they get on a decent win streak for once now?

They played terrible baseball the entire series, are missing 4 regulars, and had no business losing the game yesterday, so I would doubt it.
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Re: GT: Jays @ Rockies / Sept 1-3 

Post#576 » by SharoneWright » Sun Sep 3, 2023 11:36 pm

Mehar wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:
Lateral Quicks wrote:
Schneider, Horwitz, and Clement all had quietly very good seasons in Buffalo. They've all earned serious looks in the spring.

Schneider is a near lock to take Kiermaier's OF spot next year (with Varsho moving to CF full time). I don't see a spot for Horwitz, aside from Belt's job as platoon DH. I don't know if Clement can play a passable 2B or 3B, but he may take Espinal's job next season.

Is Schneider good enough defensively to play 2B full-time for them? Early returns have not been good there though.

I believe he can be. An off-season and spring training preparing to play Second Base will also help him, instead of him being moved around in the infield and LF all year.

I hope so. But, even if you’re right,,, his manager will still pinch run for him?? :dontknow:
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Re: GT: Jays @ Rockies / Sept 1-3 

Post#577 » by JN » Sun Sep 3, 2023 11:39 pm

hst420 wrote:Jays still have a legit chance, of course it'll depend on how well they play against the Rays and Yankees.. like always.


The 4 game Rangers series is probably the most crucial one. If we can somehow take 3 of 4 in that one it would be huge - of course we are equally capable of taking 1 out of 4 which would be devestating.
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Re: GT: Jays @ Rockies / Sept 1-3 

Post#578 » by Mehar » Sun Sep 3, 2023 11:39 pm

Randle McMurphy wrote:
TOStateofMind wrote:Had to have this series and they pulled it out. Can they get on a decent win streak for once now?

They played terrible baseball the entire series, are missing 4 regulars, and had no business losing the game yesterday, so I would doubt it.

The Jays are playing a team next that is tied for the least amount of wins in MLB. They will get 2 of their Regulars back after that in their home stand. Houston and Texas are playing each other in the next series. So, the Jays, regardless of missing 4 Regulars need to take care of a garbage Oakland team. I still have my doubts about a decent win streak, but we will see.
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Re: GT: Jays @ Rockies / Sept 1-3 

Post#579 » by JN » Sun Sep 3, 2023 11:54 pm

If we are going to make a move, next week is the one to do it.

Texas plays Houston for 3 (so somebody has to lose)
Mariners have a tough schedule - at Cincy, at Tampa
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Re: GT: Jays @ Rockies / Sept 1-3 

Post#580 » by greekman » Mon Sep 4, 2023 12:19 am

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