Toronto Blue Jays (38-32) @ Texas Rangers (42-26) | June 16-18, 2023

linery88 · Post #61 » by **linery88** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 12:26 am

Hottie McShotty wrote:Anyone getting tired of watching this offense? You are not going to win too many games if your offense is scoring less than 3 runs a game. Fire Martinez and place Mattingly as the hitting coach. This is getting ridiculous!

Yeah ,I said the same thing before.Mattingly as a batting coach would be good.Is this org trying everything it can do to win :banghead:

Raider917 · Post #62 » by **Raider917** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 1:12 am

at least Guerrero looked better today. the long at bat maybe is what he needed.

Hottie McShotty · Post #63 » by **Hottie McShotty** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 1:31 am

Raider917 wrote:at least Guerrero looked better today. the long at bat maybe is what he needed.

Can't forgive him for that base running mistake though. He took too a wide of a turn (using a banana route) coming home. It cost this team a run that could have given us momentum. Who knows how the the rest of the game would have gone if he had scored in that inning.

linery88 · Post #64 » by **linery88** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 3:06 am

Vlad looked like a beached whale on that baserunning play.He looked completely clueless.Makes me wonder if the 3b coach waived or was stopping him.He is not in shape for the 182 grind.No hrs at home..are you kidding.Is he hurt in his wrist/s... etc ?
These pitchers are pitching him EXTRA tough cause they cant stand his hr trot.

Seasontickets · Post #65 » by **Seasontickets** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:59 am

As frustrating as the Jays are....

Look at the Mets, Phillies, Los Angeles Dodgers (with an almost identical record as us), Padres, Cardinals, Seattle....

In the entire league, only the Phillies have played less home games.

Dodgers lost 15-0 today!~ 15-0~ at home.

What is up with the league?

polo007 · Post #66 » by **polo007** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 9:40 am

linery88 · Post #67 » by **linery88** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:31 am

Seasontickets wrote:As frustrating as the Jays are....

Look at the Mets, Phillies, Los Angeles Dodgers (with an almost identical record as us), Padres, Cardinals, Seattle....

In the entire league, only the Phillies have played less home games.

Dodgers lost 15-0 today!~ 15-0~ at home.

What is up with the league?

Phillies will be there..looks like the pitch clock is messing with a lot of pitchers,and maybe players,but they probably cant admit it.
Manoah wasn,t the only one who struggled.A lot of the cy young candidates from last season like Manoah have also struggled with crappier numbers.The Mets are done...too many injuries.Too early for Sea,SD.Cardinals are in trouble.If a team can stay at .500 or a little better they still have a shot to get hot.

bluerap23 · Post #68 » by **bluerap23** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 2:57 pm

Corinne wrote:Who do we have as our Chapman replacement atm, with Barger still perhaps being 2 years away from being 2 years away? Or do we try to sign Chappy for cheap considering his quality has dropped off.

Orelvis Martínez is looking really good the last month. Barger is injured but also close to major league ready. We may see both next year on and off. Otto Lopez is having a terrible year but was also pretty close to being a stop gap while the other two were developing. I haven’t had a chance to look at salary projections for next year but we have some significant money coming off the books between Chapman and Ryu. I expect we will look to acquire a 2B or 3B in the off season to help fill the Chapman/ Merrifield whole. Probably look for a Belt or Kiermaier one year type. Hopefully this awful hitting drought ends and we can make the playoffs to justify our gargantuan payroll.

Raps in 4 · Post #69 » by **Raps in 4** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:13 pm

polo007 wrote:

It's interesting, we're #6 in wRC+ but our offence is so frustrating to watch. This explains why.

Randle McMurphy · Post #70 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 5:05 pm

Raps in 4 wrote:
polo007 wrote:

It's interesting, we're #6 in wRC+ but our offence is so frustrating to watch. This explains why.

So we are either super unlucky or the greatest choker team ever. Not great.

Mehar · Post #71 » by **Mehar** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 5:28 pm

Raps in 4 wrote:
polo007 wrote:

It's interesting, we're #6 in wRC+ but our offence is so frustrating to watch. This explains why.

That is why I am in the minority, and wRC+ is not the be all and end all for me. It is a good stat, but much prefer metrics like Batting Average, OBP, OPS, to judge the overall quality of a player (especially acquired in trades like Varsho). A player like Varsho might have a reasonable wRc+, but might have a terrible BA, OPS, OBP, etc. Same goes with other players.

Raps in 4 · Post #72 » by **Raps in 4** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 5:31 pm

Mehar wrote:
Raps in 4 wrote:
polo007 wrote:

It's interesting, we're #6 in wRC+ but our offence is so frustrating to watch. This explains why.

That is why I am in the minority, and wRC+ is not the be all and end all for me. It is a good stat, but much prefer metrics like Batting Average, OBP, OPS, to judge the hitting stats of players (especially acquired in trades like Varsho).

wRC+ uses all of that information in its calculation.

We rank #23 in wRC+ with RISP, #6 overall on the season. It tells the same story as the raw stats.

Mehar · Post #73 » by **Mehar** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 5:47 pm

Raps in 4 wrote:
Mehar wrote:
Raps in 4 wrote:
It's interesting, we're #6 in wRC+ but our offence is so frustrating to watch. This explains why.

That is why I am in the minority, and wRC+ is not the be all and end all for me. It is a good stat, but much prefer metrics like Batting Average, OBP, OPS, to judge the hitting stats of players (especially acquired in trades like Varsho).

wRC+ takes all of that into consideration.

We rank #23 in wRC+ with RISP, #6 overall on the season. It tells the same story as the raw stats.

wRC+ does take into that account those things, but from my standpoint is a much more subjective stat. You are estimating a player's talent by looking at complex things like factoring in different ballparks, the league you are playing in, etc. I rather more put more of an emphasis strictly on metrics like OPS and OBP when doing evaluations.

Asianiac_24 · Post #74 » by **Asianiac_24** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 6:15 pm

There should be a weight and diet clause in Vlad/Manoah/Kirks next contract. How are you a professional athlete with a body of a arcade prize pillow

Mehar · Post #75 » by **Mehar** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 6:46 pm

Asianiac_24 wrote:There should be a weight and diet clause in Vlad/Manoah/Kirks next contract. How are you a professional athlete with a body of a arcade prize pillow

They called it fat shaming, but seeing how Manoah looked like he was 300 pounds on the mound, and observing Kirk try to run up to first base- it would not hurt both of these guys to get in better shape and drop 25-30 pounds. These guys enjoyed too many buffets this past off-season, and it showed this year since they looked like they packed on several additional pounds which they needed to lose instead.

Fairview4Life · Post #76 » by **Fairview4Life** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 6:50 pm

Why do we do such stupid ****?

SharoneWright · Post #77 » by **SharoneWright** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 6:51 pm

Bunch of weirdos on this team.

Randle McMurphy · Post #78 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 6:51 pm

You need to be benching Vlad for that. This is the majors, that can’t happen.

Ranger One · Post #79 » by **Ranger One** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 6:52 pm

Inexcusable. You're struggling to score more than 2 runs a game and you give up free outs with runners in scoring position?? WTF is wrong with these guys?

SharoneWright · Post #80 » by **SharoneWright** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 6:53 pm

Randle McMurphy wrote:You need to be benching Vlad for that. This is the majors, that can’t happen.

He’s not going to learn anything. It would be straight up punishment. Not remediation.