Blue Jays 23/24 Offseason Thread

Madvillainy2004 · Post #81 » by **Madvillainy2004** » Tue Nov 7, 2023 11:56 pm

Randle McMurphy wrote:

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Season's over early.

Ross allergic to good PR

SharoneWright · Post #82 » by **SharoneWright** » Wed Nov 8, 2023 12:02 am

https://www.sportsnet.ca/mlb/article/blue-jays-hire-carlos-febles-as-new-third-base-coach/

Hopefully this guy knows how to read the ball off the bat better than Rivera. Although Bo and Vlad will do what the want regardless....

SharoneWright · Post #83 » by **SharoneWright** » Wed Nov 8, 2023 12:09 am

JN wrote:
polo007 wrote:

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I thought it was Green that held the option based on various posts I had seen in September.

This is strange, and seemingly not that a good move on the surface by the Jays.

Would rather hold the money for the offence, and if those options go away, there will always be some reliever left on the market in Jan/Feb that you can give this money to.

It was always our option. It was a right we earned by paying him a full year's salary for basically 1 month of service.

Parataxis · Post #84 » by **Parataxis** » Wed Nov 8, 2023 12:11 am

SharoneWright wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:

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Season's over early.

ha ha.

seriously, though. that's really odd. it was an easy bone to throw to the fans, whether it makes any material difference or just as an empty gesture. he was the lowest of the low hanging fruit.

I get keeping Schneider. I understand keeping Atkins.

Keeping Martinez is very confusing.

Michael Bradley · Post #85 » by **Michael Bradley** » Wed Nov 8, 2023 12:12 am

Randle McMurphy wrote:

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Season's over early.

Guillermo was there in 2021-22 when the offense was actually good, so while he should have been let go just based on how the offense performed in 2023, I wouldn't say the season is over early.

polo007 wrote:

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Ok, NOW we can say the season is over early.

Randle McMurphy · Post #86 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Wed Nov 8, 2023 12:22 am

SharoneWright wrote:https://www.sportsnet.ca/mlb/article/blue-jays-hire-carlos-febles-as-new-third-base-coach/

Hopefully this guy knows how to read the ball off the bat better than Rivera. Although Bo and Vlad will do what the want regardless....

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Guess who the 3B coach is here.

SharoneWright · Post #87 » by **SharoneWright** » Wed Nov 8, 2023 12:27 am

Randle McMurphy wrote:
SharoneWright wrote:https://www.sportsnet.ca/mlb/article/blue-jays-hire-carlos-febles-as-new-third-base-coach/

Hopefully this guy knows how to read the ball off the bat better than Rivera. Although Bo and Vlad will do what the want regardless....

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Guess who the 3B coach is here.

Oh ya, right!!! That play was BRUTAL!! :lol:

Ugh.

WuTang_OG · Post #88 » by **WuTang_OG** » Wed Nov 8, 2023 1:17 am

Not firing their hitting coach should tell u all u need to know. Guy doesn't have any say so it doesnt matter

Atkins got work to do getting legit hitters this off-season. Lets see what happens

Hottie McShotty · Post #89 » by **Hottie McShotty** » Wed Nov 8, 2023 11:35 am

Agreed and they got the money to do it. Let's see what happens.

Fairview4Life · Post #90 » by **Fairview4Life** » Wed Nov 8, 2023 12:30 pm

What tf is an offensive coordinator in baseball?

Post #91 » by **Cyrus** » Wed Nov 8, 2023 5:25 pm

polo007 wrote:

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They want to keep him around in the organization, provided he doesn't get a head coaching job else, so he can take over John Schinder when he gets fired this year, when he decides he needs to go to his closer in the 4th inning.

polo007 · Post #92 » by **polo007** » Wed Nov 8, 2023 11:02 pm

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Blue Jays trusting returning staff to extract more offence from core players - Sportsnet.ca

As usual the Blue Jays are all over everything, although notable Tuesday was the way Atkins, when asked, heaped praise on Joey Votto, the Hall-of-Fame bound, Toronto-born hitting savant on the open market for the first time, and that the Blue Jays met with the representatives for free agent corner infielder Jeimer Candelario.

The Blue Jays have also shown interest in prized Japanese right-hander Yoshinobu Yamamoto, whom Atkins crossed the Pacific to watch in person three times last season. The intriguing 25-year-old is coming off a seventh straight season of dominance in the NPB, striking out 176 batters in 171 innings over 24 outings for the Orix Buffaloes while walking only 28, and the market for him is expected to push him into nine figures.

How a pricey add like Yamamoto works when the Blue Jays are already deep in the rotation and so in need of offensive help is an interesting question.

But when asked if they’d consider taking resources away from the pursuit of offence to augment the pitching staff, Atkins intriguingly replied, "I feel like we will have the opportunity to present those types of significant adds or acquisitions to ownership. We've been given so much support that I wouldn't say that that is unrealistic to do both."

Read into that what you will in a market that looks set to be dominated by Yamamoto, Shohei Ohtani and Cody Bellinger. Even if the Blue Jays are all-in on one of the big three, interest in them will be high and competition fierce. Given the amount of holes they have to fill, a spread-the-wealth approach built around someone like Candelario — a switch-hitting third baseman who is a strong clubhouse presence and also happens to be friends with Guerrero — could make some sense, too.

Hottie McShotty · Post #93 » by **Hottie McShotty** » Thu Nov 9, 2023 12:57 am

So after 8 years and zero playoff success, the Jays have a payroll north of $200 million and still have multiple holes in their lineup and no farm system. This is spectacular management.

polo007 · Post #94 » by **polo007** » Thu Nov 9, 2023 5:22 am

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Madvillainy2004 · Post #95 » by **Madvillainy2004** » Thu Nov 9, 2023 12:46 pm

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I think the defense will get a bit worse regardless because Kiermaier isn't coming back. Varsho might even be better in CF but left field would be better served for a Jorge Soler/Joc Pederson type player. You can rotate Biggio and Davis in there as well.

3rd base is more interesting Chapman's bat was around average on the whole last year. He is still a good defender tho. Candelario would be a more offensive option tho his numbers post trade were kinda meh. Suarez from the M's would probably be my pick, 90th percintile defender and still has elite power tho ill admit his bat last year wasnt good. You can take your chances and hope he rebounds to his 2022 form. I've heard Justin Turner as well but I'd rather the 2 former options. Could roll the dice on Orlevis but I'm not sold on him as a MLB player yet.

Parataxis · Post #96 » by **Parataxis** » Thu Nov 9, 2023 9:58 pm

I can't see this happening, but Cards twitter seems to be abuzz with talk of Carlson for Manoah. Would be a very sell-low move by Atkins.

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polo007 · Post #97 » by **polo007** » Thu Nov 9, 2023 11:30 pm

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Raptors Realtor · Post #98 » by **Raptors Realtor** » Fri Nov 10, 2023 4:39 am

Parataxis wrote:I can't see this happening, but Cards twitter seems to be abuzz with talk of Carlson for Manoah. Would be a very sell-low move by Atkins.

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Carlson is so underwhelming... He's more inconsistent than Varsho at the plate... If they trade for him our outfield offense production won't be better next season, and could be worse.

Parataxis · Post #99 » by **Parataxis** » Fri Nov 10, 2023 5:29 am

Raptors Realtor wrote:
Parataxis wrote:I can't see this happening, but Cards twitter seems to be abuzz with talk of Carlson for Manoah. Would be a very sell-low move by Atkins.

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Carlson is so underwhelming... He's more inconsistent than Varsho at the plate... If they trade for him our outfield offense production won't be better next season, and could be worse.

I'm not super familiar with him, but from doing some reading, he seems like a poor-man's Varsho. Worse defence, hitting, and running. I don't see the fit.

Post #100 » by **Harry Palmer** » Fri Nov 10, 2023 5:47 am

Fairview4Life wrote:What tf is an offensive coordinator in baseball?

Candlesticks always make a nice gift.