Jays vs Trouhtanis, a finite number of baseball contests

[Hottie McShotty]

Beginning to look like this team needs more guys that have been there and done it. Maybe more guys that are actually serious about their craft.

Semien’s absence is felt for sure.

Love Semien and I'm not even advocating that we should have signed him to that deal as it was and is absurd. Don't know or care what his stats are either. But the leadership and accountability and professionalism he brought and the respect he commanded are really inadequate on this team.

We need a manager that will change the clubhouse culture.

Schneider clearly ain't it. His in-game decisions are baffling more often than not (it's clear he was likely calling the shots when Charlie was here too), and the team is still as lackadaisical as they were under Charlie. We need a commanding presence to keep these guys in line. Schneider is neither a good tactical nor motivational manager.

Bring Gibby back!

[Mehar]

Frustrating to see Teoscar playing like it’s spring training, yet we can’t really afford to bench him as he’s an important bat for the team. Maybe he’s pouting for being put at #6 on the team? He’s a better batter than Bo and maybe Gurriel, but his effort is inexcusable for a team in the playoff race.

Teoscar is cleary not right with his foot, but regardless he is a free agent after next year and would be asking for big dollars on a new contract. I am not sure for several reasons he is a guy you want to lock up for 20-25 million a year. He is the guy I would definitely shop in the off-season to address the SS position or acquire another pitcher instead. Bo is best suited at Second Base, and should not be a SS in 2023.

[linery88]

Frustrating to see Teoscar playing like it’s spring training, yet we can’t really afford to bench him as he’s an important bat for the team. Maybe he’s pouting for being put at #6 on the team? He’s a better batter than Bo and maybe Gurriel, but his effort is inexcusable for a team in the playoff race.

Teoscar is cleary not right with his foot, but regardless he is a free agent after next year and would be asking for big dollars on a new contract. I am not sure for several reasons he is a guy you want to lock up for 20-25 million a year. He is the guy I would definitely shop in the off-season to address the SS position or acquire another pitcher instead. Bo is best suited at Second Base, and should not be a SS in 2023.

Vladdy at 2 should end now.Their offence has worked better with him at 3.IMHO-It would work even better if he was 4th.
Every pitcher would say to himself if Vlad was batting 4th "I better get the top 3 guys out.Dont wanna face Vladdy with guys on"
But that will never happen,so hopefully they put him back to the 3 slot.

[WuTang_OG]

embarrasement

this team just doesnt have it. too much up and down all season. thats all mental and the want it factor. leadership lacking on this team. the only real leader is springer.

[Hottie McShotty]

embarrasement

this team just doesnt have it. too much up and down all season. thats all mental and the want it factor. leadership lacking on this team. the only real leader is springer.

Outscored 22-3 in a series against one of the worst teams in the American League. Pathetic!

[Schad]

embarrasement

this team just doesnt have it. too much up and down all season. thats all mental and the want it factor. leadership lacking on this team. the only real leader is springer.

Before catching fire in August, the Rays lost 8 of 10 against the Royals, Orioles and ourselves. The Mariners haven't scored more than 4 runs in any of their last eight games. The Orioles have scored more than 5 runs once in their last 12. Minnesota was on a six-game losing streak prior to Friday, and are well below .500 over their last 75 games. The Yankees are 17-26 over the past six weeks. Cleveland's offense has been south of 4 runs/game for a month now.

People keep treating things as unique to the Jays that are just how baseball is. It's a high-variance sport.

[WuTang_OG]

embarrasement

this team just doesnt have it. too much up and down all season. thats all mental and the want it factor. leadership lacking on this team. the only real leader is springer.

Before catching fire in August, the Rays lost 8 of 10 against the Royals, Orioles and ourselves. The Mariners haven't scored more than 4 runs in any of their last eight games. The Orioles have scored more than 5 runs once in their last 12. Minnesota was on a six-game losing streak prior to Friday, and are well below .500 over their last 75 games. The Yankees are 17-26 over the past six weeks. Cleveland's offense has been south of 4 runs/game for a month now.

People keep treating things as unique to the Jays that are just how baseball is. It's a high-variance sport.

We are just calling it as we see it.

Team has loads of talent but clearly things are missing.

Lack of leadership and focus all season have been the biggest problem. Getting swept at home by the Angels was unacceptable. You arent winning a world series with this disposition.

[Schad]

We are just calling it as we see it.

Team has loads of talent but clearly things are missing.

Lack of leadership and focus all season have been the biggest problem. Getting swept at home by the Angels was unacceptable. You arent winning a world series with this disposition.

People forever call it as they see it whenever we lose a couple games. That doesn't mean that how they call it is particularly meaningful. If a disaster of the scale of getting swept by the Angels precludes a team winning the World Series, there will be no World Series champion this year. Or most years.