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Re: Manny opened to be traded
Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:42 pm
by cmaff051
HCYanks wrote:A couple minutes ago Peter Gammons was yelling at Steve Phillips on BBTN for suggesting Francona could mend the problem with Manny and he could stay with the team. It was hilariously surreal.
You really have to wonder if Gammo is publically articulating the feelings of the Red Sox FO... after all, he's done it before.
Re: Manny opened to be traded
Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:51 pm
by HCYanks
The latest version of this rumor has it as a three-way where Jason Bay goes to the Red Sox. Please God, no.
Re: Manny opened to be traded
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:03 am
by cmaff051
HCYanks wrote:The latest version of this rumor has it as a three-way where Jason Bay goes to the Red Sox. Please God, no.
****. That is a great trade for the Red Sox. Bay had a down year last year, but he is a great hitter for his career.
Re: Manny opened to be traded
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:03 am
by greenbeans
cmaff051 wrote:HCYanks wrote:A couple minutes ago Peter Gammons was yelling at Steve Phillips on BBTN for suggesting Francona could mend the problem with Manny and he could stay with the team. It was hilariously surreal.
You really have to wonder if Gammo is publically articulating the feelings of the Red Sox FO... after all, he's done it before.
no, ya dont have to wonder. he is most definitely the mouth piece for the sox fo. and it gets over the top most of the time
Re: Manny opened to be traded
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:04 am
by Buck You
If people didn't come to watch Manny in Florida then it's time to relocate that team.
Re: Manny opened to be traded
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:37 am
by greenbeans
yup, hes lost it:
"The Red Sox don't deserve a player like me," Ramirez said. "During my years here I've seen how they [the Red Sox] have mistreated other great players when they didn't want them to try to turn the fans against them.
"The Red Sox did the same with guys like Nomar Garciaparra and Pedro Martinez, and now they do the same with me. Their goal is to paint me as the bad guy," Ramirez added. "I love Boston fans, but the Red Sox don't deserve me. I'm not talking about money. Mental peace has no price and I don't have peace here."
Yeah, it isn't like they were deadon when getting rid of Pedro and Nomar, Manny
Re: Manny opened to be traded
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:40 am
by bigboy1234
Jayson Stark says the Red Sox are trying to get Stanton, Ryan Tucker, and one of Willingham/Hermida for Ramirez.
If the Red Sox pull that off that would be amazing. Tucker has a power arm. Stanton is one of the best power hitting prospects in the minors. Willingham is a .850 OPS guy and Hermida has the potential to be yearly .900 OPS guy.
Re: Manny opened to be traded
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 1:00 am
by jumanji
I'd still like to see them somehow finesse Matt Holiday away from the Rockies, it would probably take a top prospect plus Manny. Worth it in my opinion.
Re: Manny opened to be traded
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 1:08 am
by HCYanks
jumanji wrote:I'd still like to see them somehow finesse Matt Holiday away from the Rockies, it would probably take a top prospect plus Manny. Worth it in my opinion.
They'd be better off getting Bay. Bay is two years older, but Holliday's home-road splits are so out of whack I see him being Bay's equal at best when taken out of Coors, even playing in Fenway. Not to mention that the Rockies have apparently been asking the world for Holliday.
Re: Manny opened to be traded
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 1:39 am
by greenbeans
now we're talking. Bay, Jack Wilson and Grabow coming to Boston. and we have enough mid-level prospects to fill out this deal and not be too hurt.
8:29pm: Here's the latest. MLB.com says we're moving closer to the three-team deal. The Pirates could receive a minor leaguer from the Red Sox. Dejan Kovacevic says the Pirates would receive four or more prospects for Bay, as well as Hermida. John Grabow could end up in Boston or Florida. Perrotto says it could be expanded to have Jed Lowrie go to Pittsburgh and Jack Wilson to Boston. The Bucs also like Red Sox prospect Hunter Jones
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/
Re: Manny opened to be traded
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 1:49 am
by Celtics_Champs
I knew it had to be a player like bay or holliday in a 3 way. When I heard manny to the marlins for prospects, I just couldn't imagine a deal like that.
I love bay. Would love to see him in boston. Rumors will run rampant after this game.
Manny probably just had his last at bat with the red sox.
Re: Manny opened to be traded
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 1:55 am
by SportsWorld
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/07/m ... rez-2.html8:50pm: Will Carroll believes the Commissioner's Office has been informed of a Red Sox-Pirates-Marlins trade even though the teams haven't agreed on the prospects. Here's how he sees it:
Marlins get Manny Ramirez, one prospect (BOS), and cash (likely Ramirez’s remaining salary)
Pirates get Jeremy Hermida and three prospects (two FLO, one BOS)
Red Sox get Jason Bay and John Grabow
Re: Manny opened to be traded
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:05 am
by Celtics_Champs
Wow. Looks done. Who is John Grabow though?
Re: Manny opened to be traded
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:07 am
by SportsWorld
Celtics_Champs wrote:Wow. Looks done. Who is John Grabow though?
He's an average pitcher for the Pirates. Not happy Jeremy Hermida coming into the NL Central after he just owned the Cubs this weekend.
Re: Manny opened to be traded
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:16 am
by Celtics_Champs
Wow. is this guy credible? Will Carroll???
Re: Manny opened to be traded
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:16 am
by Posey H8er
Wow you could make a case that all three teams got a good deal out of this trade.
Re: Manny opened to be traded
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:20 am
by HCYanks
Ugh. Bay is a good haul for the Sox if that's what it is. They won't really lose a step offensively. And Grabow isn't a world beater but could probably help their pen; at the very least, he's a good excuse to finally dump Mike Timlin.
Re: Manny opened to be traded
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:22 am
by SportsWorld
I heard the White Sox were interested in grabbing Timlin. Maybe this opens up that trade.
Re: Manny opened to be traded
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:23 am
by Celtics_Champs
This deal was made pretty damn early compared to when he dealt nomar. Surprised theo committed so fast. He must really like bay.
Miss ya manny.
Re: Manny opened to be traded
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:23 am
by HCYanks
Celtics_Champs wrote:Wow. is this guy credible? Will Carroll???
It should be noted that Carroll's big specialty is injury reporting and he doesn't have an amazing track record as a trade rumor guy. I still trust him more than someone like Ken Rosenthal, though.