Ned Yost Fired

[mattbulls]

Discuss.

[studcrackers]

i think the entire brewers forum just made happy time in there pants

[crkone]

i think the entire brewers forum just made happy time in there pants

AND HOW!!!1!!!!1111!!!!!

This is seriously too late. Douche should have been canned at least a few months back after the sweeping by the hands of the Red Sox.

[trwi7]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwEMxYggoKQ

[Comet]

Very curious timing. This should have happened a long, long time ago. At least he's finally gone.

To those who don't follow the Brewers much, Yost dishes out the worst starting lineups, makes horrible pinch-hitting and bullpen decisions, doesn't handle pressure well, and even isn't very bright (see sig).

[craig01]

That quote is Berra-esque. ^^^^^^^^^^

His firing may be baseball's loss. lol

[Da Schwab]

I'd love to see him get into the broadcasting booth, especially for FOX.

Could you imagine a postseason with Joe Buck, Tim McCarver and Ned Yost all in one booth?

[studcrackers]

and to think baseball has been hiding this quote machine in milwaukee the past several years, shame on you baseball

[Buck You]

I'd love to see him get into the broadcasting booth, especially for FOX.

Could you imagine a postseason with Joe Buck, Tim McCarver and Ned Yost all in one booth?

Ned Yost is not a good talker. He would never succeed as a broadcaster.

and to think baseball has been hiding this quote machine in milwaukee the past several years, shame on you baseball

You don't even know half of it. When talking about Suppan's many 6 IP 5 ER starts:
"He pitched well, if only he didn't give up those two homers."
Something to the tune of that is a normal ned yost quote.

[trwi7]

This is the same guy who employed a home/road pitching platoon with Dave Bush and Seth McClung earlier this year.

Dave Bush was on fire going into the all-star break lowering his ERA from 5.85 to 4.39 and he gets put into a home/road platoon.

So he pitched last on July 10th and then didn't pitch again until July 26th. How is a starting pitcher going to handle two plus weeks off? Not well obviously and his next two starts he allowed 10 earned runs in 12.1 innings before the platoon was scrapped.

And again, I touched on this in the open thread at the top of the page, but Joe Sheehan of Baseball Prospectus did a great job of explaining how terrible Yost is.

Yost has to take a big part of the blame as well, after making some of the worst tactical decisions you'll see. In the eighth inning of yesterday's first game, the Brewers were tied 3-3. Guillermo Mota allowed a leadoff single to Jayson Werth, and was lifted for Brian Shouse so that Shouse could face Chase Utley and Ryan Howard. (Charlie Manuel's refusal to always put a right-handed batter between those two is a big reason why the Phillies will have trouble winning a short series.) Utley sacrificed Werth to second, setting up Shouse versus Howard.

Yost elected to walk Howard to face Pat Burrell. This was... well, it strains my vocabulary to find the right word for it. Howard cannot hit left-handers, and would be a platoon player if performance mattered anywhere near as much as reputation does. Or if he had a competent manager. Howard is at .228/.313/.458 against lefties in his career, .212/.287/.410 this year. Howard. Can't. Hit. Lefties. Shouse, on the other hand, is in the major leagues for exactly one reason: lefties can't hit him, to the tune of .175/.192/.289 this year, and .211/.263/.325 for his career, which includes a bunch of years when he was barely a major leaguer. Manuel sending Howard up against Shouse was a continuation of a theme for the Phillies: not hitting for Howard when he has little chance of doing something good. He was giving Yost an out, and Yost gave it right back.

That set up Shouse versus Pat Burrell, which cried out for a right-handed reliever. After all, Shouse is a pure specialist (.307/.390/.455 vs. RHB career; .293/.371/.446 this year). The only way walking Howard even might make sense is if Yost were to bring in a righty to try and get a double play out of Burrell. Burrell doesn't have the big platoon splits he showed earlier in his career—he's a dangerous hitter against both kinds of hurlers—but leaving Shouse in to face him was asking for trouble.

Think about this for a second. Yost had a 481 OPS pitcher facing a 697 OPS hitter. He elected to issue an intentional walk in that situation to allow an 817 OPS pitcher to face a 905 OPS hitter with an additional runner on base. That's when you start looking around the roof of the stadium for snipers, because gunpoint is the only place where that kind of decision makes sense.

So it was no surprise that four pitches later, the Phillies were up 7-3. Burrell singled in one run, and Shane Victorino cleared the bases with a three-run homer to left.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/artic ... cleid=8077

[trwi7]

Read for hilarious quotes.

http://blogs.jsonline.com/brewers/archi ... -away.aspx

[meatball sub]

Can't say I disagree with the move, but I definitely don't agree with the timing. There had to of been some kind of Girardi-esque fallout with management for this to happen two weeks before the franchise's first playoff birth in 20+ years...

[trwi7]

Can't say I disagree with the move, but I definitely don't agree with the timing. There had to of been some kind of Girardi-esque fallout with management for this to happen two weeks before the franchise's first playoff birth in 20+ years...

Two weeks before our first playoff berth in 20+ years? In case you didn't notice we lost our 5.5 game lead in less than two weeks and are now more likely to miss the playoffs than make them.

[Da Schwab]

Can't say I disagree with the move, but I definitely don't agree with the timing. There had to of been some kind of Girardi-esque fallout with management for this to happen two weeks before the franchise's first playoff birth in 20+ years...

Don't count your chickens before the hatch, guy.

[meatball sub]

Ok, possible playoff birth in 20+ years.

[craig01]

Don't count your chickens before the hatch, guy.

But wouldn't Yost say it like: "don't hatch your chickens before you count them"?