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Re: Week 15 Thread. 

Post#701 » by Micah Prescott » Tue Dec 19, 2023 5:03 pm

El Turco wrote:Lamar is so far behind as a passer, he would need to win like 40-0 to catch up. But take it if you think there is a good chance of that happening.

It's not about that. It's about team record. He would be the QB of the team with the most wins.

MVP is almost always "best player on the best team"...with only a few exceptions
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Post#702 » by QB_Eagles » Tue Dec 19, 2023 5:06 pm

Josh Allen still got a chance. There's going to be voters who will think he "deserves" one factoring in the past.

He leads the league in TDs but will have to win the division.
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Re: Week 15 Thread. 

Post#703 » by El Turco » Tue Dec 19, 2023 5:11 pm

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El Turco wrote:Lamar is so far behind as a passer, he would need to win like 40-0 to catch up. But take it if you think there is a good chance of that happening.

It's not about that. It's about team record. He would be the QB of the team with the most wins.

MVP is almost always "best player on the best team"...with only a few exceptions


nah, it is "best player among top seeds in each conference". It would make a difference if Ravens were in NFC and took over Niners as the first seed.

Still might not have been enough.
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Re: Week 15 Thread. 

Post#704 » by El Turco » Tue Dec 19, 2023 5:13 pm

I dont think Josh Allen is anywhere close but he must have very good odds if you think he has a chance
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Re: Week 15 Thread. 

Post#705 » by QB_Eagles » Tue Dec 19, 2023 5:14 pm

El Turco wrote:I dont think Josh Allen is anywhere close but he must have very good odds if you think he has a chance

I don't gamble.

He's just legit been great this season despite the turnovers.

I'm aware MVP goes to the QB of the best team so I don't see him as a favorite.

But if he wins the division with a great performance against the Dolphins week 18, he might win the award.

Like I said there will be voters who think he deserves one for past seasons.

Plus it's never good to have two candidates on the same team and with ranked choice voting this year, he might get a lot of 2nd place votes vs. BBB and CMC getting either 1st or 3rd/4th.
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Re: Week 15 Thread. 

Post#706 » by Micah Prescott » Tue Dec 19, 2023 5:18 pm

El Turco wrote:
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El Turco wrote:Lamar is so far behind as a passer, he would need to win like 40-0 to catch up. But take it if you think there is a good chance of that happening.

It's not about that. It's about team record. He would be the QB of the team with the most wins.

MVP is almost always "best player on the best team"...with only a few exceptions


nah, it is "best player among top seeds in each conference". It would make a difference if Ravens were in NFC and took over Niners as the first seed.

Still might not have been enough.

He might as well be in the same division given that they play each other.

Voter's recent memory will be of Lamar beating Purdy (if that were to actually happen)

If the Ravens upset the 9ers on Christmas, I think Lamar will be the favorite at that point.
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Re: Week 15 Thread. 

Post#707 » by El Turco » Tue Dec 19, 2023 5:24 pm

Micah Prescott wrote:He might as well be in the same division given that they play each other.


That makes absolutely no sense

Just in recent history 2016, 2018, 2020 MVP went to a quarterback of a team that didnt have the best record in the league. Winning your conference is enough in team performance part of the equation, after that individual performance talks.
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Re: Week 15 Thread. 

Post#708 » by El Turco » Tue Dec 19, 2023 5:28 pm

Lot ifs and mights and buts here, many NFL christmas wishes :lol:
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Re: Week 15 Thread. 

Post#709 » by Micah Prescott » Tue Dec 19, 2023 5:44 pm

El Turco wrote:
Micah Prescott wrote:He might as well be in the same division given that they play each other.


That makes absolutely no sense

Just in recent history 2016, 2018, 2020 MVP went to a quarterback of a team that didnt have the best record in the league. Winning your conference is enough in team performance part of the equation, after that individual performance talks.

I'm saying it is a battle for best record on Christmas at the end of the season with the 2 QBs favorited for MVP. It will be fresh on the voter's mind. That might as well be a divisional game, it will be viewed like a Super Bowl preview.

Take off the homer glasses for a sec and imagine the outcry for Lamar if he goes into SF and beats Purdy and then loses MVP. That would be super controversial.
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Re: Week 15 Thread. 

Post#710 » by Cactus Jack » Tue Dec 19, 2023 5:49 pm

It's such an odd year. No clear standout performance by an individual. Purdy isn't truly deserving because he's not even the most valuable player on that team. But I'm not sure the last time a RB has won. Maybe AP? Bizarre.
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Re: Week 15 Thread. 

Post#711 » by El Turco » Tue Dec 19, 2023 5:49 pm

No, tiebreakers are only necessary when there are ties. Not ignoring the 16 games that Purdy has been clearly superior wouldnt be controversial.

Unless there is a Purdy vs. Dak type of disaster.
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Re: Week 15 Thread. 

Post#712 » by Cactus Jack » Tue Dec 19, 2023 5:51 pm

El Turco wrote:No, tiebreakers are only necessary when there are ties

I liked your other avatar better. :wink:
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Re: Week 15 Thread. 

Post#713 » by Mr B » Tue Dec 19, 2023 5:52 pm

Eagles fans really going in on AJ Brown. I didn’t realize dude was so sensitive.
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Re: Week 15 Thread. 

Post#714 » by El Turco » Tue Dec 19, 2023 5:52 pm

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El Turco wrote:No, tiebreakers are only necessary when there are ties

I liked your other avatar better. :wink:


gonna ruffle some feathers when I can :)
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Re: Week 15 Thread. 

Post#715 » by azcatz11 » Tue Dec 19, 2023 7:34 pm

Mr B wrote:Eagles fans really going in on AJ Brown. I didn’t realize dude was so sensitive.


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Re: Week 15 Thread. 

Post#716 » by Cactus Jack » Fri Dec 22, 2023 2:12 am

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