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Re: Panthers acquire #1 pick
Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:39 am
by Dominator83
Cactus Jack wrote:JDR720 wrote:If Carolina are dumb enough to draft Richardson #1 overall...
They want a pro-ready QB. Not a project.
They won't. It's Stroud.
Yea if Carolina really wanted Richardson, they could have probably traded for #3 and saved an asset.
I agree they're going Stroud
Re: Panthers acquire #1 pick
Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:58 am
by Mr Swagtastic
I don't feel the same way others do for Chicago. I think they kinda got a tad too greedy. IMHO they should've stuck with #4 at worst. Chicago could've got #4, #36, #80 or #107 and say a second or first next year from Indy. Then look at Will Anderson Jr or Jalen Carter who are the two best defensive players. Get a early second for the BPA and a decent 3rd or 4th to add another good piece plus a pick next year.
I get the need for DJ Moore but who do they then look at with their pick? Skronski or Paris Johnson to bolster their oline or go after Witherspoon, Porter Jr or Gonzalez for secondary help or Tyree Wilson ?
I think this is the first of a couple big trades. I have a feeling Vegas is probably the next team to move up at target whose left of Young or Richardson or if the price is too high they might go after Levis.
Re: Panthers acquire #1 pick
Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2023 9:49 am
by Charlesareed
I like the trade imo they need a good wr who were they gonna get in fa that’s better than dj? The fa WR class is meh I think the panthers will be better if they take Bryce Young over CJ Stroud but that’s my opinion
Re: Panthers acquire #1 pick
Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2023 1:40 pm
by DOT
Mr Swagtastic wrote:I don't feel the same way others do for Chicago. I think they kinda got a tad too greedy. IMHO they should've stuck with #4 at worst. Chicago could've got #4, #36, #80 or #107 and say a second or first next year from Indy. Then look at Will Anderson Jr or Jalen Carter who are the two best defensive players. Get a early second for the BPA and a decent 3rd or 4th to add another good piece plus a pick next year.
I get the need for DJ Moore but who do they then look at with their pick? Skronski or Paris Johnson to bolster their oline or go after Witherspoon, Porter Jr or Gonzalez for secondary help or Tyree Wilson ?
I think this is the first of a couple big trades. I have a feeling Vegas is probably the next team to move up at target whose left of Young or Richardson or if the price is too high they might go after Levis.
I think they look at it like, 9 is a great spot to take an OT, probably the first OT, so you get Fields a #1 WR (cause DJ Moore is actually really good I guess, dude was a consistent 1k yard guy with guys like Kyle Allen, Teddy Bridgewater, and Sam Darnold throwing to him) and a top tackle, which are arguably the 2 most important positions to help a young QB besides TE
Then you just figure out the defense later. Plus, there’s a non-zero chance that Carter is still on the board at 9, nobody is questioning his talent, but if a gas mask bong caused Laremy Tunsil to drop, street racing in which someone died will cause Carter to drop too
Also, they were probably never in contention for Will Anderson anyways, if they go to 4, then Arizona almost certainly stays at 3 and gets him.
Re: Panthers acquire #1 pick
Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:39 pm
by JujitsuFlip
Bears fleeced the Panthers, wow. You can take your ski mask off now lol
Re: Panthers acquire #1 pick
Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2023 5:45 am
by Dr Positivity
I'd have liked it more if they went to 3rd and just took whichever QB falls, if it meant giving up less assets, maybe it ends up being an Allen vs Mayfield and Darnold situation.
The drafts where there's no obvious #1 QB but 3-4 in the top 10 teams have talked themselves into are real dangerous. I do think the direct comparing them would be fun if the top 4 are all QBs.
Re: Panthers acquire #1 pick
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 4:24 pm
by Cactus Jack
azcatz11 wrote:Holy hell. The bears fleeced Carolina. DJ Moore is the most underrated WR in the league and will be instantly a top 10 threat.
Love what Ryan pace is doing with this squad. Seals the deal for AR15 at #1
Re: Panthers acquire #1 pick
Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 4:26 am
by Cactus Jack
azcatz11 wrote:Holy hell. The bears fleeced Carolina. DJ Moore is the most underrated WR in the league and will be instantly a top 10 threat.
Love what Ryan pace is doing with this squad. Seals the deal for AR15 at #1
Re: Panthers acquire #1 pick
Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 4:31 am
by azcatz11
Cactus Jack wrote:azcatz11 wrote:Holy hell. The bears fleeced Carolina. DJ Moore is the most underrated WR in the league and will be instantly a top 10 threat.
Love what Ryan pace is doing with this squad. Seals the deal for AR15 at #1
He had a great pro day. I was watching live.
Btw - Zay Flowers is +600 as first WR drafted…good value there my friend
Re: Panthers acquire #1 pick
Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 4:33 am
by Cactus Jack
azcatz11 wrote:He had a great pro day. I was watching live.
Btw - Zay Flowers is +600 as first WR drafted…good value there my friend
What are the odds on JSN? Because that's the correct answer.
Re: Panthers acquire #1 pick
Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 4:34 am
by azcatz11
Cactus Jack wrote:azcatz11 wrote:He had a great pro day. I was watching live.
Btw - Zay Flowers is +600 as first WR drafted…good value there my friend
What are the odds on JSN? Because that's the correct answer.
He’s favorite at -150
Re: Panthers acquire #1 pick
Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 4:42 am
by azcatz11
Cactus Jack wrote:azcatz11 wrote:He had a great pro day. I was watching live.
Btw - Zay Flowers is +600 as first WR drafted…good value there my friend
What are the odds on JSN? Because that's the correct answer.
Everything I’m reading is that JSN is elite 2. Safe floor. Flowers has x potential
Re: Panthers acquire #1 pick
Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 4:54 am
by Cactus Jack
azcatz11 wrote:Cactus Jack wrote:azcatz11 wrote:He had a great pro day. I was watching live.
Btw - Zay Flowers is +600 as first WR drafted…good value there my friend
What are the odds on JSN? Because that's the correct answer.
Everything I’m reading is that JSN is elite 2. Safe floor. Flowers has x potential
They are my top two.
JSN is an elite slot receiver. Flowers has a chance to be special too. He's a YAC guy. Electric with the ball in his hands.
Re: Panthers acquire #1 pick
Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 4:55 am
by azcatz11
Cactus Jack wrote:azcatz11 wrote:Cactus Jack wrote:What are the odds on JSN? Because that's the correct answer.
Everything I’m reading is that JSN is elite 2. Safe floor. Flowers has x potential
They are my top two.
JSN is an elite slot receiver. Flowers has a chance to be special too. He's a YAC guy. Electric with the ball in his hands.
Flowers comp is Toney but can actually run routes?
Re: Panthers acquire #1 pick
Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 4:57 am
by Cactus Jack
azcatz11 wrote:Cactus Jack wrote:azcatz11 wrote:
Everything I’m reading is that JSN is elite 2. Safe floor. Flowers has x potential
They are my top two.
JSN is an elite slot receiver. Flowers has a chance to be special too. He's a YAC guy. Electric with the ball in his hands.
Flowers comp is Toney but can actually run routes?
Flowers reminds me more of Antonio Brown. Steve Smith is another name that often gets mentioned.
Re: Panthers acquire #1 pick
Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:26 am
by Cactus Jack
azcatz11 wrote:Cactus Jack wrote:azcatz11 wrote:He had a great pro day. I was watching live.
Btw - Zay Flowers is +600 as first WR drafted…good value there my friend
What are the odds on JSN? Because that's the correct answer.
Everything I’m reading is that JSN is elite 2. Safe floor. Flowers has x potential
You put JSN in the Rams offense & he's the next Cooper Kupp.
Re: Panthers acquire #1 pick
Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 1:16 pm
by azcatz11
Cactus Jack wrote:azcatz11 wrote:Cactus Jack wrote:What are the odds on JSN? Because that's the correct answer.
Everything I’m reading is that JSN is elite 2. Safe floor. Flowers has x potential
You put JSN in the Rams offense & he's the next Cooper Kupp.
That’s what Ben Solak has been saying
Re: Panthers acquire #1 pick
Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 12:43 am
by JujitsuFlip
O/U on how many games Andy Dalton plays in this season?
Re: Panthers acquire #1 pick
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 6:38 pm
by Hornet Mania
JujitsuFlip wrote:O/U on how many games Andy Dalton plays in this season?
Frank Reich recently said the plan is to get the #1 pick as many snaps as possible in camp with the intention of preparing them for opening day.
The brain trust seems to be all-in on the idea of taking advantage of the rookie contract window. Carolina's dead cap situation (CMC, DJ Moore and Robby Anderson mostly) clears up in 2024 so they're trying to emulate what teams like Buffalo and Philly have done adding lots of pieces around a cheap and talented QB.
If they throw everyone a curve ball and go with Richardson then Dalton probably plays more than half the year, maybe all of it. Otherwise he'll only see the field if the new face of the franchise has to miss time.
If the O/U for Dalton was set at 4 games the safe bet is to take the under.