NFL Preseason thread

azcatz11 · Post #201 » by **azcatz11** » Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:38 pm

I don't really get why they're giving up on Lance already. I guess it has to do with the extension...which makes sense.

Post #202 » by **Cactus Jack** » Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:52 pm

azcatz11 wrote:I don't really get why they're giving up on Lance already. I guess it has to do with the extension...which makes sense.

He has two years left on his rookie deal. Another year to decide on the 5th year option. It wasn't that.

azcatz11 · Post #203 » by **azcatz11** » Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:21 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:I don't really get why they're giving up on Lance already. I guess it has to do with the extension...which makes sense.

He has two years left on his rookie deal. Another year to decide on the 5th year option. It wasn't that.

Off the field issues? Why the heck would they promote darnold over him??

Post #204 » by **Cactus Jack** » Thu Aug 24, 2023 1:21 am

azcatz11 wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:I don't really get why they're giving up on Lance already. I guess it has to do with the extension...which makes sense.

He has two years left on his rookie deal. Another year to decide on the 5th year option. It wasn't that.

Off the field issues? Why the heck would they promote darnold over him??

The rumor is that Lance & Darnold have the same agent. Lance & the agent requested a trade. This whole thing has blown up in their face.

azcatz11 · Post #205 » by **azcatz11** » Thu Aug 24, 2023 1:36 am

Cactus Jack wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:He has two years left on his rookie deal. Another year to decide on the 5th year option. It wasn't that.

Off the field issues? Why the heck would they promote darnold over him??

The rumor is that Lance & Darnold have the same agent. Lance & the agent requested a trade. This whole thing has blown up in their face.

Gotcha. Yeah, something isn't right here.

righterwriter · Post #206 » by **righterwriter** » Thu Aug 24, 2023 7:14 am

It's not that hard to understand.

Brock Purdy is a very good QB that led the team to the NFC championship game. He's the starter.

Darnold is a young, former #3 pick with talent and 55 starts under his belt. He's a more dependable backup at this point due to his experience.

Lance has thrown 57 passes in his career and is a barely 23 year old developmental QB. He needs to be on a team where he can get experience.

Post #207 » by **Cactus Jack** » Thu Aug 24, 2023 4:07 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:

I see why the Vikes moved on from Mond.

I forgot who it was, but I read someone describe him pretty perfectly.

He’s athletic, but so stiff that it doesn’t matter. Strong arm but doesn’t know how to lead a receiver, he throws directly at the receiver most of the time. The problem even with that is he’s not accurate enough to throw to a wide open receiver.

He went on and on about how horrific a prospect he was. He was dead on. He was a 3rd round QB that got waived after only one year a reason haha.

Read on Twitter

Post #208 » by **Duke4life831** » Thu Aug 24, 2023 4:27 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:I see why the Vikes moved on from Mond.

I forgot who it was, but I read someone describe him pretty perfectly.

He’s athletic, but so stiff that it doesn’t matter. Strong arm but doesn’t know how to lead a receiver, he throws directly at the receiver most of the time. The problem even with that is he’s not accurate enough to throw to a wide open receiver.

He went on and on about how horrific a prospect he was. He was dead on. He was a 3rd round QB that got waived after only one year a reason haha.

Read on Twitter

Pretty much a no brainer. DTR is already clearly so far ahead of him, so it would be pointless to keep both. Plus Mond is just one of those guys where you really dont need to see much of him to know its never going to happen (at least on a starter level). All of the most important skill sets in a QB, he lacks in.

Decision making: horrible
Accuracy: really bad
pocket awareness: non existent

hell even when it comes to his athleticism. May have good top end speed for a QB. But bad acceleration and zero wiggle/agility to him. Reminds me of another QB that was drafted in the middle rounds by the same team...

Post #209 » by **Cactus Jack** » Fri Aug 25, 2023 1:24 am

Richardson is going to be a problem

rpa · Post #210 » by **rpa** » Fri Aug 25, 2023 9:21 pm

righterwriter wrote:It's not that hard to understand.

Brock Purdy is a very good QB that led the team to the NFC championship game. He's the starter.

Darnold is a young, former #3 pick with talent and 55 starts under his belt. He's a more dependable backup at this point due to his experience.

Lance has thrown 57 passes in his career and is a barely 23 year old developmental QB. He needs to be on a team where he can get experience.

IMO there's even more obviousness to it than that:

Lance has a different skill set (running) than most QBs do. Lance as your starter is fine because you build your offense around the strengths of your starter. Lance as your backup is fine as long as at least one of the following things is true:
a) He's backing up an older veteran
b) He's backing up a QB that would be running a similar offense

At this point... it's neither. Purdy's a pocket passer AND young (ironically he's 6 months older than Lance). If Purdy is your longterm starter (and why wouldn't he be right now?) it's hard to justify keeping a player as a backup that would need a different scheme to be effective. Then you add on (as you said) the fact that he's still a developmental QB and the choice is really obvious.

To me this says a lot more about how the franchise values Purdy than how it values Lance. If Purdy had come in last year and been mediocre or Nate Paterman bad then Lance is probably starting with the 49ers willing to trade risk for upside. But if they feel they have that upside locked up in Purdy why take any of the risk?

wco81 · Post #211 » by **wco81** » Fri Aug 25, 2023 10:10 pm

The other part of it is that Shanahan doesn't run an RPO-centric offense.

I guess he would have had to change his offense if he was committed to Lance.

But last season, before he got injured, Shanahan wasn't letting him run those kinds of plays. Often didn't let him throw and had him run up the middle a few times.

Really a head-scratching play calling.

righterwriter · Post #212 » by **righterwriter** » Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:44 am

wco81 wrote:The other part of it is that Shanahan doesn't run an RPO-centric offense.

I guess he would have had to change his offense if he was committed to Lance.

But last season, before he got injured, Shanahan wasn't letting him run those kinds of plays. Often didn't let him throw and had him run up the middle a few times.

Really a head-scratching play calling.

I don't think much can be said about the kind of offense SF ran for Lance last year, considering he played one monsoon game and then ran six plays in game 2 before being hurt for the season.

bluejerseyjinx · Post #213 » by **bluejerseyjinx** » Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:13 pm

Very noisy packed house for the Chiefs last preseason game. Must be a nice feeling returning as the defending Super Bowl champions.

bluejerseyjinx · Post #214 » by **bluejerseyjinx** » Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:22 pm

Watson still looks rusty.

bluejerseyjinx · Post #215 » by **bluejerseyjinx** » Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:29 pm

Buechelle with a horrible pick 6.

bluejerseyjinx · Post #216 » by **bluejerseyjinx** » Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:51 pm

Browns feeling their oats against the Chief's back ups.

bluejerseyjinx · Post #217 » by **bluejerseyjinx** » Sat Aug 26, 2023 6:12 pm

D.J. Dallas and then Bobo. T.D. !!!!!!!!!!!

Post #218 » by **Cactus Jack** » Sat Aug 26, 2023 6:16 pm

bluejerseyjinx wrote:D.J. Dallas and then Bobo. T.D. !!!!!!!!!!!

BoBo has been a star this preseason. Undrafted free agent. He's slow but an underrated route runner. The guy just gets open.

bluejerseyjinx · Post #219 » by **bluejerseyjinx** » Sat Aug 26, 2023 6:18 pm

Damn. Rashee Rice, how do you drop that? Sometimes the easiest catches in the world are the hardest. :banghead:

Sure T.D. if he just catches the damn ball.

bluejerseyjinx · Post #220 » by **bluejerseyjinx** » Sat Aug 26, 2023 6:18 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:
bluejerseyjinx wrote:D.J. Dallas and then Bobo. T.D. !!!!!!!!!!!

BoBo has been a star this preseason. Undrafted free agent.

He looked pretty good in the Cowboy game as well.