Kyler Murray long term

[LAKESHOW]

It is true. Ceiling. Money. All that. But if not Kyler, then who? That system was tailor made for him and his running ability. And no one else can run with that type of maneuverability. So they are kinda stuck together

[Mamba Mentality]

That Mahomes contract is looking like an absolute bargain.

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[wco81]

It is true. Ceiling. Money. All that. But if not Kyler, then who? That system was tailor made for him and his running ability. And no one else can run with that type of maneuverability. So they are kinda stuck together

Yeah and apparently Kingsbury and the GM were also signed through 2027.

So the owner I guess didn't want to keep resetting.

Cards have made big plays in the last 2-3 seasons so he has some hope they can keep getting better.

Problem is, there's a lot of tape on how top teams can contain Kyler and now with this big contract, they won't have the roster depth going forward.

I heard he had two more years under his rookie deal but they made this extension active this season, so they could have paid him a rookie salary for the next two seasons but instead chose to have his big extension start this season.

If that's true, it's unbelievably stupid.

[hermes]

well that would spread the deal out more and not make the last couple years so bad. which would be prudent if they weren't planning on pushing all the chips in during the next two years.

[ODanseTron]

This resets the market price for Lamar Jackson and makes him justifiably worth 7-8 years / 300M+.

Murray has never come close to a historic MVP level season or led a team to multiple playoffs runs.

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That's a huge red flag.

[wco81]

Well Russell Wilson was great at sandlot football, making plays off scrambles.

But he had a great defense which allowed him to make a handful of plays a game.

[Cactus Jack]

Well Russell Wilson was great at sandlot football, making plays off scrambles.

But he had a great defense which allowed him to make a handful of plays a game.

No one has questioned Russ' commitment tho. He's always been an overachiever due to it. If he had the same study habits that it appears Kyler does, then he never would have made it.

[azcatz11]

Well Russell Wilson was great at sandlot football, making plays off scrambles.

But he had a great defense which allowed him to make a handful of plays a game.

No one has questioned Russ' commitment tho. He's always been an overachiever due to it. If he had the same study habits that it appears Kyler does, then he never would have made it.

I would put money he gets traded within 2 years.

[bluejerseyjinx]

Well Russell Wilson was great at sandlot football, making plays off scrambles.

But he had a great defense which allowed him to make a handful of plays a game.

No one has questioned Russ' commitment tho. He's always been an overachiever due to it. If he had the same study habits that it appears Kyler does, then he never would have made it.

I would put money he gets traded within 2 years.

What decent team and/or organization would want to trade for him now? We saw how his team and season ended last season, and now this. Cardinals just gave him a pile of money he doesn't even deserve and his trade value has just gone down toilet.

[azcatz11]

No one has questioned Russ' commitment tho. He's always been an overachiever due to it. If he had the same study habits that it appears Kyler does, then he never would have made it.

I would put money he gets traded within 2 years.

What decent team and/or organization would want to trade for him now? We saw how his team and season ended last season, and now this. Cardinals just gave him a pile of money he doesn't even deserve and his trade value has just gone down toilet.

Someone will. Falcons, Colts, etc.

[wco81]

They were saying on First Take that there's no way for the team to enforce this requirement.

They can hand him the iPad but who's going to make him use it?

One guy said it takes an hour to review one game film. Typically they review 7 or 8 game films of an upcoming opponent per week.


Apparently Kyler is big into video games so it's not like he dislikes screens.

But wouldn't some coaches want to go over film with their QBs, point out things the QB should be looking for?

Apparently they said these days, QBs rely on helmets with speakers and coaches telling them what's happening in the presnap adjustments. But I thought the speaker was only on in the huddle and when they come up to the line it's turned off?

[LAKESHOW]

Offensive systems are different nowadays. Back in the day, call a play and figure it out from there.
Todays schemes, they call at the line of scrimmage, OC and staff looks at defensive formations, then signals in a play or play change, then QB read and react on the spot. In kyler Murrays case, if play breaks down, just run around and escape.
And with that escape-ability, Bang! AZ hands him 200MiL

[Duke4life831]

Well Russell Wilson was great at sandlot football, making plays off scrambles.

But he had a great defense which allowed him to make a handful of plays a game.

No one has questioned Russ' commitment tho. He's always been an overachiever due to it. If he had the same study habits that it appears Kyler does, then he never would have made it.

Ya I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone even think about questioning Russ study habits. This kind of talk has been around Murray since college.

But ya I’m pretty sure Russ is viewed as one of those guys that live in the film room. I listened to a clip from Pat McAfee about this and he said if you were to put this kind of thing in a contract with a guy like Peyton or Brady, they would be offended. Not because it’s something they have to do, but it would be laughable to question their study habits. I’m sure Russ is in the same category as those guys.

[Cactus Jack]

Well Russell Wilson was great at sandlot football, making plays off scrambles.

But he had a great defense which allowed him to make a handful of plays a game.

No one has questioned Russ' commitment tho. He's always been an overachiever due to it. If he had the same study habits that it appears Kyler does, then he never would have made it.

Ya I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone even think about questioning Russ study habits. This kind of talk has been around Murray since college.

But ya I’m pretty sure Russ is viewed as one of those guys that live in the film room. I listened to a clip from Pat McAfee about this and he said if you were to put this kind of thing in a contract with a guy like Peyton or Brady, they would be offended. Not because it’s something they have to do, but it would be laughable to question their study habits. I’m sure Russ is in the same category as those guys.

Russ has always been known to be a film junkie. I'm not sure how much his priorities have changed since Ciara & having kids. But his persona off the field definitely seemed to shift post Ciara fwiw.

His height is always going to be a hindrance to his game. Same with Kyler. Stats show that Russ doesn't throw over the middle part of the field on a consistent basis. That's partly due to his size.

[bluejerseyjinx]

I think the Cardinals look as bad as Murray the way this issue and matter has been dealt with. I think back to the 80's on what black QB's like Doug Williams, Warren Moon, etc., and others had to endure and we see this type of behavior from Kyler Murray. If I'm a black man, I'm pissed as hell.

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LOL

[LAKESHOW]

Ahaha, this organization ...lol

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