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El Turco wrote:wembambamya wrote:Mr B wrote:Turco seems to care a lot.
He is taking the piss lol
Cowboys fans cant handle me, I am just too hot. Like 5 people called him out for 60 years ago BS but he only got pissy with me. It is ok, I am used to Cowboys fans obsessing over me
El Turco wrote:last stand wrote:What’s going to happen is teams are going to see more benefit in just drafting guys and putting super teams around them
I think when baker mayfield starts getting 40 which will trickle around the league for several QBs I just think long term teams are going to draft a QB or 2 and try to build super teams. I mean would you rather have baker at 40 or a top LB, safety, and WR?
Yeah this is the way I favor. Unless you have quarterback that overcomes holes in your team, which there are maybe 4-5 of those guys, dont pay a quarterback past his rookie deal. Just build a great team and keep plugging it with young guys from the draft or maybe a veteran on a discount. We've seen unless you are Mahomes it is very difficult to win with a quarterback taking huge percentage of your cap.
RaoulDuke79 wrote:Speaking of Lawrence - you absolutely have to pay him. He's by far and away the #1 hair-swisher in the league. He's okayish at some other things too, but the hair...my god the hair!
bluejerseyjinx wrote:El Turco wrote:wembambamya wrote:
He is taking the piss lol
Cowboys fans cant handle me, I am just too hot. Like 5 people called him out for 60 years ago BS but he only got pissy with me. It is ok, I am used to Cowboys fans obsessing over me
Oh please. Get over yourself. Jesus.
bluejerseyjinx wrote:bwgood77 wrote:The Chiefs were the Dallas Texans for 3 years.
Pulling for them because they are from Texas would be like a Houston fan pulling for the Titans, though this would make more sense since they were in Houston for nearly 40 years. Or even a Cleveland fan pulling for the Ravens since the Ravens were in Cleveland for 50 years.
Yet the Chargers are now in LA and the Raiders are in Vegas. You still root for for your Chargers even though there isn't much to talk about there. Must be frustrating knowing the Chiefs have won 8 straight division titles and Mahomes is only 28 years old and doesn't appear to be slowing down.
First was definitely on himMicah Prescott wrote:RIPskaterdude wrote:49ers had no issue moving the ball, they just had some bad luck with tipped balls going for INTs.Micah Prescott wrote:The Ravens are going to win it all but not really because of LJ. It's because no one can score on that defense. That franchise just knows how to properly build defensive squads.
Justin Madubuike is probably the best DT in the NFL, the found him in the 3rd round.
Two AllPro LBs...Roquan and Queen.
How often does that happen? A team have two Allpro LBs the same year?
I mean, this is why I think almost any QB can win a SB with the right cast. Not a knock on LJ, he's a great QB, but that defense is carrying the team.
Purdy threw 4 INTs and 2 of them were definitely on him. Zero TD passes to go with that.
azcatz11 wrote:bluejerseyjinx wrote:El Turco wrote:
Cowboys fans cant handle me, I am just too hot. Like 5 people called him out for 60 years ago BS but he only got pissy with me. It is ok, I am used to Cowboys fans obsessing over me
Oh please. Get over yourself. Jesus.
You make a lot of enemies on here man.
El Turco wrote:No Cowboys fan was rooting for Chiefs before Mahomes lets get real
goober wrote:Brock Purdy is in a lose/lose situation with the media right now, it doesn’t matter how well he plays, all credit is given to his teammates. If he has a lackluster performance, he sucks.
QB_Eagles wrote:goober wrote:Brock Purdy is in a lose/lose situation with the media right now, it doesn’t matter how well he plays, all credit is given to his teammates. If he has a lackluster performance, he sucks.
Yeah, that's why I couldn't see him winning MVP even before the 4 Int game. He isn't trusted yet. Funny enough if he was a 1st overall pick, he'd get a lot more credit.
El Turco wrote:last stand wrote:What’s going to happen is teams are going to see more benefit in just drafting guys and putting super teams around them
I think when baker mayfield starts getting 40 which will trickle around the league for several QBs I just think long term teams are going to draft a QB or 2 and try to build super teams. I mean would you rather have baker at 40 or a top LB, safety, and WR?
Yeah this is the way I favor. Unless you have quarterback that overcomes holes in your team, which there are maybe 4-5 of those guys, dont pay a quarterback past his rookie deal. Just build a great team and keep plugging it with young guys from the draft or maybe a veteran on a discount. We've seen unless you are Mahomes it is very difficult to win with a quarterback taking huge percentage of your cap.
Mr B wrote:wembambamya wrote:Mr B wrote:Who said anything about changing teams? Cowboys are still my team.
So you are hopping on Chiefs for the playoffs? seems weird but ok who cares. That 60 year ago bit sounds silly though.
Well I am a football fan and not just a Cowboys fan. So I am continuing to watch. Of the teams that are left I like the Chiefs. I’ve had an affinity for them since I was a kid, and yes because they originally started in Dallas. Not sure why that’s silly though. I mean there are tons of Oakland fans that root for the Raiders. Should only people in Vegas be allowed to root for them? What about the Rams? Are people in St Louis no longer allowed to roof for anyone? I think it’s more silly that this really bothers some people here.
QB_Eagles wrote:El Turco wrote:last stand wrote:What’s going to happen is teams are going to see more benefit in just drafting guys and putting super teams around them
I think when baker mayfield starts getting 40 which will trickle around the league for several QBs I just think long term teams are going to draft a QB or 2 and try to build super teams. I mean would you rather have baker at 40 or a top LB, safety, and WR?
Yeah this is the way I favor. Unless you have quarterback that overcomes holes in your team, which there are maybe 4-5 of those guys, dont pay a quarterback past his rookie deal. Just build a great team and keep plugging it with young guys from the draft or maybe a veteran on a discount. We've seen unless you are Mahomes it is very difficult to win with a quarterback taking huge percentage of your cap.
Teams will have to start doing this in order to get QB salaries down.
There's really no reason Baker Mayfield should be making 1.5 as much as the best pass rushers in the NFL.
In the mid 90s Deion Sanders and Troy Aikman were making the same money per year.
RIPskaterdude wrote:First was definitely on himMicah Prescott wrote:RIPskaterdude wrote:49ers had no issue moving the ball, they just had some bad luck with tipped balls going for INTs.
Purdy threw 4 INTs and 2 of them were definitely on him. Zero TD passes to go with that.
2nd was a great defensive play and lucky bounce
3rd was on Kittle, defender also got there early and could have been PI
4th looks like CMC stopped running his route, pocket collapsed and Purdy threw in front of CMC
last stand wrote:QB_Eagles wrote:El Turco wrote:
Yeah this is the way I favor. Unless you have quarterback that overcomes holes in your team, which there are maybe 4-5 of those guys, dont pay a quarterback past his rookie deal. Just build a great team and keep plugging it with young guys from the draft or maybe a veteran on a discount. We've seen unless you are Mahomes it is very difficult to win with a quarterback taking huge percentage of your cap.
Teams will have to start doing this in order to get QB salaries down.
There's really no reason Baker Mayfield should be making 1.5 as much as the best pass rushers in the NFL.
In the mid 90s Deion Sanders and Troy Aikman were making the same money per year.
I think it’d be incredibly important for an owners meeting to come to this conclusion and push towards a complete market reset for QBs.
The best and only way to do it is to keep proving that the albatross QB contracts don’t equal winning. Eventually it’ll go the way of the RB and soon the WR. There’s a top 15 WR being drafted 3 times a first round now. Eventually teams will stop paying them since they can draft someone on par but 20 million dollars cheaper.
I think if the nfl can actually figure this out we may see the QB go a similar direction, problem is not enough teams have the infrastructure to actually build good enough teams
Buuut maybe that’s where all the expensive QBs go, to the poorly run franchises. They pay for putting butts in seats, and the good franchises keep drafting and building contenders
Mariner wrote:I never understood why there isn’t a cap on QB contracts. The owners would love it. Not tying in all that guaranteed money on one contract.
The PA also wouldn’t mind it seeing as the money would be distributed to more players. The starting 32 QBs wouldn’t like it but they are severely outvoted.
Seems like a win for the owners and over 90 percent of the membership.
As long as the floor and cap is in place the players will still get their normal cut.
QB_Eagles wrote:Mariner wrote:I never understood why there isn’t a cap on QB contracts. The owners would love it. Not tying in all that guaranteed money on one contract.
The PA also wouldn’t mind it seeing as the money would be distributed to more players. The starting 32 QBs wouldn’t like it but they are severely outvoted.
Seems like a win for the owners and over 90 percent of the membership.
As long as the floor and cap is in place the players will still get their normal cut.
It would be the easiest fix but I'm not sure if I like it competitively. It's better for competitive balance if the Chiefs for example are struggling a bit like they did this year.
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