Halliberton,Mitchell & Booker all were drafed later.(Hire Me)

kellmellus50 · Post #1 » by **kellmellus50** » Wed Feb 21, 2024 1:54 pm

Who the Pistons picked before the all stars is Hays,Johnson,Kennard.the Pistons can not spot talent that's the problem of why the Pistons are last in the leauge.

Haliburton is averaging 26.9 points and 11.9 assists with a lowly turnover rate of 10.5 percent, numbers that have never been seen before in league history.

Booker 28pts/5 rbs /7 assts

Mitchell 28pts/5 rbs/6 assts

kellmellus50 · Post #2 » by **kellmellus50** » Wed Feb 21, 2024 2:05 pm

The Pistons need to hire as many people they can to make the right picks in the draft thats more important than the coach or GM

At the time of the drafts i was easily able to pick the all stars and could not understand why the pistons picked who they picked

The Pistons should hire me for 1 million a year and i can improve their drafts.

MortSahlfan · Post #3 » by **MortSahlfan** » Wed Feb 21, 2024 2:27 pm

we get all of Tellem's clients at TWICE the price!

Post #4 » by **Snakebites** » Wed Feb 21, 2024 2:49 pm

You could build a competitive All Star roster with the guys we didn’t pick. Tell us something we don’t know.

flow · Post #5 » by **flow** » Wed Feb 21, 2024 2:52 pm

If we were to rank them, Mitchell is 3rd simply because Kennard is at least a productive NBA player. Booker is 2nd because Stanley Johnson played a different position and was a different type of player altogether. Halliburton is not only 1st, but Hayes over Halliburton could go down as the worst draft choice in NBA history when all is said and done.

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bstein14 · Post #6 » by **bstein14** » Wed Feb 21, 2024 3:01 pm

Watching the all-star game and seeing Haliburton, Maxey, Booker, Mitchell, Barnes, Brunson, and even SGA knowing OKC was rumored to want to trade him for the #1 pick in 2021... Just feels like all this talent count be Pistons but we never get it right.

There will be a player that signs a less than MAX deal in this FA too that would have been willing to sign in Detroit that will be an all-star in the next four years... Can Weaver land that player? Probably not going to make the right decision as we've seen time and time again.

Still amazes me how Joe Dumars took over a team where the superstar was leaving and went out and got four all-stars in RIP, Sheed, Billiups, and Big Ben without ever needed a top 8 pick or more than the MLE in cap space to get it done.

Sort · Post #7 » by **Sort** » Wed Feb 21, 2024 3:43 pm

I think it's fair to criticize the Pistons draft choices, but you could play this game with every draft.

Post #8 » by **Snakebites** » Wed Feb 21, 2024 3:47 pm

Sort wrote:I think it's fair to criticize the Pistons draft choices, but you could play this game with every draft.

The point really isn’t that we could have gotten all of these guys. Even the Thunder don’t make the best pick possible every single time.

The point is that we didn’t get ANY of them.

It’s not about any one draft- you can justify or excuse them individually- teams make mistakes and aren’t psychics. It’s the aggregate.

Post #9 » by **theBigLip** » Wed Feb 21, 2024 4:14 pm

There are a lot of redraft articles out there. Once you start going back 4-5 years, there are a lot of big misses. It really shows how hard it is.

And it’s not just which GM guessed right. It’s also about the odds. 60 guys drafted, how many will ever become all stars? Starters? Not the majority, that’s for sure.

Canadafan · Post #10 » by **Canadafan** » Wed Feb 21, 2024 4:16 pm

Lord. Just move on, I can't stand when people talk about woulda coulda shoulda. Negative nancies. Not just directed at OP.

Post #11 » by **theBigLip** » Wed Feb 21, 2024 4:34 pm

https://medium.com/@burakcankoc/what-are-the-odds-to-become-an-all-star-for-each-draft-pick-2d113d6b82e5

The odds of picking an all star…

flow · Post #12 » by **flow** » Wed Feb 21, 2024 4:41 pm

theBigLip wrote:https://medium.com/@burakcankoc/what-are-the-odds-to-become-an-all-star-for-each-draft-pick-2d113d6b82e5

The odds of picking an all star…

Where's the article on the odds against drafting a total bust with a top 5-10 pick?

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Post #13 » by **theBigLip** » Wed Feb 21, 2024 4:45 pm

flow wrote:
theBigLip wrote:https://medium.com/@burakcankoc/what-are-the-odds-to-become-an-all-star-for-each-draft-pick-2d113d6b82e5

The odds of picking an all star…

Where's the article on the odds against drafting a total bust with a top 5-10 pick?

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It’s in there, sort of. 75% chance that a lottery pick will NOT be an AllStar.

Lottery Picks(1–14) → 108/420 = 25.7% probability of All-Star

flow · Post #14 » by **flow** » Wed Feb 21, 2024 4:50 pm

theBigLip wrote:
flow wrote:
theBigLip wrote:https://medium.com/@burakcankoc/what-are-the-odds-to-become-an-all-star-for-each-draft-pick-2d113d6b82e5

The odds of picking an all star…

Where's the article on the odds against drafting a total bust with a top 5-10 pick?

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It’s in there, sort of. 75% chance that a lottery pick will NOT be an AllStar.
Lottery Picks(1–14) → 108/420 = 25.7% probability of All-Star

There's a grand canyon between not being an all-star and being a bust.

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Post #15 » by **theBigLip** » Wed Feb 21, 2024 4:54 pm

flow wrote:
theBigLip wrote:
flow wrote:
Where's the article on the odds against drafting a total bust with a top 5-10 pick?

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It’s in there, sort of. 75% chance that a lottery pick will NOT be an AllStar.
Lottery Picks(1–14) → 108/420 = 25.7% probability of All-Star

There's a grand canyon between not being an all-star and being a bust.

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True. So that’s for Hayes. But don’t we have AllStar expectations for our Core Four? They are all lottery picks. So if just one of them becomes an AllStar, Weaver is “average”.

Post #16 » by **theBigLip** » Wed Feb 21, 2024 4:59 pm

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/c93k4q/basic_statistics_on_success_of_nba_draftees/

This one goes into that detail. The graph is way down on the article, but 25% of picks 1-5 are busts.

Post #17 » by **theBigLip** » Wed Feb 21, 2024 5:01 pm

crashnburn26 · Post #18 » by **crashnburn26** » Wed Feb 21, 2024 11:51 pm

I think its unfair to bring up previous FOs failures. I think with the exception of the COVID draft, there are very few Weaver years where I would say I hated his pick. I was a Taylor Hendricks guy myself and it looks like I may eat crow on the Ausar pick. Hell, I think drafting is the one thing hes doing ok on (in a vacuum, for fit is another discussion)

Post #19 » by **Snakebites** » Wed Feb 21, 2024 11:55 pm

crashnburn26 wrote:I think its unfair to bring up previous FOs failures. I think with the exception of the COVID draft, there are very few Weaver years where I would say I hated his pick. I was a Taylor Hendricks guy myself and it looks like I may eat crow on the Ausar pick. Hell, I think drafting is the one thing hes doing ok on (in a vacuum, for fit is another discussion)

Yeah, again, it’s not about any one thing.

It’s not even just about drafting. It’s the aggregate.

crashnburn26 · Post #20 » by **crashnburn26** » Wed Feb 21, 2024 11:59 pm

Snakebites wrote:
crashnburn26 wrote:I think its unfair to bring up previous FOs failures. I think with the exception of the COVID draft, there are very few Weaver years where I would say I hated his pick. I was a Taylor Hendricks guy myself and it looks like I may eat crow on the Ausar pick. Hell, I think drafting is the one thing hes doing ok on (in a vacuum, for fit is another discussion)

Yeah, again, it’s not about any one thing.

It’s not even just about drafting. It’s the aggregate.

The signs have been there since we stretched Dedmon a few years back, but I'm willing to let myself get hurt one more time this upcoming offseason. What do we as fans have if not hope :lol:

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