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everytime dude have a nice little game someone says hes this hes that hes better then stuckey.

the only thing he does in my mind is ballhog and hes pretty good at finishing on his drives other then that hes nowhere near a building block for any team

When given playing time, Bynum outplays Stuckey 10 out of 11 games. He runs the offense better, plays more like a pg. Stuckey is no pg by any means.
The interesting thing is after Rip down, the only win the pistons got is the one with Stuckey out too.

dahahuang wrote:When given playing time, Bynum outplays Stuckey 10 out of 11 games. He runs the offense better, plays more like a pg. Stuckey is no pg by any means.
The interesting thing is after Rip down, the only win the pistons got is the one with Stuckey out too.

and that was against a weak ass clippers team

how about you build your team around will freakin bynum and see how far you get

Bynum is having a good season, especially when he gets enough playing time. He is a 3rd string PG, some times he wants to prove he is good enough to stay in the league and he start trying to finish every single play and start doing dumb turnovers and dumb shots or getting blocked.

If a head coach (Michael Curry isn't a head coach) manage to keep him in a tight leash he could be very useful. The guy can score when needed and that's good, as long as he don't try to finish every single play.

He is also playing hard on defense and getting a decent amount of steals. I would bring a rotation PG next season but i would keep Bynum as a 3rd option. He would cost only 825k dollars and i believe he is worth it.

since when did your backup shoot and have the ball in his hands more then your starter its not stuckey its the way they useing him

bynum comes in the game and take 3 or 4 shots in a row since when did stuckey ballhog if anything he defers to the vets somthing bynum dont do

bynum does not not run a team better then anyone he just make plays for himself

vege wrote:Bynum is having a good season, especially when he gets enough playing time. He is a 3rd string PG, some times he wants to prove he is good enough to stay in the league and he start trying to finish every single play and start doing dumb turnovers and dumb shots or getting blocked.

If a head coach (Michael Curry isn't a head coach) manage to keep him in a tight leash he could be very useful. The guy can score when needed and that's good, as long as he don't try to finish every single play.

He is also playing hard on defense and getting a decent amount of steals. I would bring a rotation PG next season but i would keep Bynum as a 3rd option. He would cost only 825k dollars and i believe he is worth it.

I agee with that but to say hes out playing stuckey is not fair because stuckey plays team ball while bynum tries to score every time down court

aad wrote:

dahahuang wrote:When given playing time, Bynum outplays Stuckey 10 out of 11 games. He runs the offense better, plays more like a pg. Stuckey is no pg by any means.
The interesting thing is after Rip down, the only win the pistons got is the one with Stuckey out too.

and that was against a weak ass clippers team

how about you build your team around will freakin bynum and see how far you get

When they lost to NY, Memphis at home, and almost lost to toronto on the road with Rip still playing, then a win agaisnt chipper was a good win. Plus they were hanging tough with Dallas and Houston also. Bynum played great in those games.

Who says the pistons should be built around Bynum? Just saying Bynum plays better than Stuckey. But the pistons want to build around Stuckey, more scary!

aad wrote:

vege wrote:Bynum is having a good season, especially when he gets enough playing time. He is a 3rd string PG, some times he wants to prove he is good enough to stay in the league and he start trying to finish every single play and start doing dumb turnovers and dumb shots or getting blocked.

If a head coach (Michael Curry isn't a head coach) manage to keep him in a tight leash he could be very useful. The guy can score when needed and that's good, as long as he don't try to finish every single play.

He is also playing hard on defense and getting a decent amount of steals. I would bring a rotation PG next season but i would keep Bynum as a 3rd option. He would cost only 825k dollars and i believe he is worth it.

I agee with that but to say hes out playing stuckey is not fair because stuckey plays team ball while bynum tries to score every time down court

Stuckey plays team ball? A U kidding me?
Btw Stuckey has costed the pistons a lot of games just because Curry has to send him out there down the stretch whether he plays good or bad.

dahahuang wrote:

aad wrote:

dahahuang wrote:When given playing time, Bynum outplays Stuckey 10 out of 11 games. He runs the offense better, plays more like a pg. Stuckey is no pg by any means.
The interesting thing is after Rip down, the only win the pistons got is the one with Stuckey out too.

and that was against a weak ass clippers team

how about you build your team around will freakin bynum and see how far you get

When they lost to NY, Memphis at home, and almost lost to toronto on the road with Rip still playing, then a win agaisnt chipper was a good win. Plus they were hanging tough with Dallas and Houston also. Bynum played great in those games.

Who says the pistons should be built around Bynum? Just saying Bynum plays better than Stuckey. But the pistons want to build around Stuckey, more scary!

So, Bynum outplays Stuckey for a couple games and it means that Bynum is better than Stuckey? I think you got it backwards. Stuckey outplays Bynum 10 of every 11 games. Where were all these complaints when Stuckey was dropping 40 and 38 on teams?

Stuckey is much, much, much better than Bynum. This is a fact.

dahahuang wrote:

aad wrote:

dahahuang wrote:When given playing time, Bynum outplays Stuckey 10 out of 11 games. He runs the offense better, plays more like a pg. Stuckey is no pg by any means.
The interesting thing is after Rip down, the only win the pistons got is the one with Stuckey out too.

and that was against a weak ass clippers team

how about you build your team around will freakin bynum and see how far you get

When they lost to NY, Memphis at home, and almost lost to toronto on the road with Rip still playing, then a win agaisnt chipper was a good win. Plus they were hanging tough with Dallas and Houston also. Bynum played great in those games.

Who says the pistons should be built around Bynum? Just saying Bynum plays better than Stuckey. But the pistons want to build around Stuckey, more scary!

because the pistons know who the better player is plus bynum wont be in the league in a year or two

bynum is a career backup playing 10 to 15 minutes a night one rip comes back you wont have to watch bynum shoot shot after shot

HeroicKennedy wrote:So, Bynum outplays Stuckey for a couple games and it means that Bynum is better than Stuckey? I think you got it backwards. Stuckey outplays Bynum 10 of every 11 games. Where were all these complaints when Stuckey was dropping 40 and 38 on teams?

Stuckey is much, much, much better than Bynum. This is a fact.

Bynum only gets chance to show what he can do after AI and Rip out, so I didn't consider those games when Bynum got left-over minutes. It's not fair to compare Bynum to Stuckey when Stuckey was a starter and Bynum only got garbage time. After Rip was out, Bynum outplayed Stuckey almost everytime except the Miami game.

Stuckey dropping 40/38 was 3 months ago. Since then how many crappy games Stuckey has played? People say he is in a slump, it's funny that he never got over his slump.

Stuckey's potential is better than Bynum's, I'll give you that, that's also because the pistons overrate Stuckey's potential.

dahahuang wrote:

HeroicKennedy wrote:So, Bynum outplays Stuckey for a couple games and it means that Bynum is better than Stuckey? I think you got it backwards. Stuckey outplays Bynum 10 of every 11 games. Where were all these complaints when Stuckey was dropping 40 and 38 on teams?

Stuckey is much, much, much better than Bynum. This is a fact.

Bynum only gets chance to show what he can do after AI and Rip out, so I didn't consider those games when Bynum got left-over minutes. It's not fair to compare Bynum to Stuckey when Stuckey was a starter and Bynum only got garbage time. After Rip was out, Bynum outplayed Stuckey almost everytime except the Miami game.

Stuckey dropping 40/38 was 3 months ago. Since then how many crappy games Stuckey has played? People say he is in a slump, it's funny that he never got over his slump.

Stuckey's potential is better than Bynum's, I'll give you that, that's also because the pistons overrate Stuckey's potential.

Uh, Stuckey most definitely broke out of his slump when Iverson went down. The first 8 games (when Detroit went 6-2), Stuckey shot 49.5%, averaged 16.5 points and 5.1 assists and 82.1% from the free throw line. For a guy that "never broke out of his slump" he sure played well for that streak. Then suddenly, teams don't have to hone in on Hamilton and he starts to struggle. Why? Because Stuckey essentially becomes our only offensive option outside of Prince and McDyess' jumper. Of course he's going to struggle, he's got no help and teams are starting to design their defenses to shut him down. This is where Curry has to come in to not only help Stuckey as a player, but also get him better looks instead of wait around at the top of the key.

HeroicKennedy wrote:

dahahuang wrote:

HeroicKennedy wrote:So, Bynum outplays Stuckey for a couple games and it means that Bynum is better than Stuckey? I think you got it backwards. Stuckey outplays Bynum 10 of every 11 games. Where were all these complaints when Stuckey was dropping 40 and 38 on teams?

Stuckey is much, much, much better than Bynum. This is a fact.

Bynum only gets chance to show what he can do after AI and Rip out, so I didn't consider those games when Bynum got left-over minutes. It's not fair to compare Bynum to Stuckey when Stuckey was a starter and Bynum only got garbage time. After Rip was out, Bynum outplayed Stuckey almost everytime except the Miami game.

Stuckey dropping 40/38 was 3 months ago. Since then how many crappy games Stuckey has played? People say he is in a slump, it's funny that he never got over his slump.

Stuckey's potential is better than Bynum's, I'll give you that, that's also because the pistons overrate Stuckey's potential.

Uh, Stuckey most definitely broke out of his slump when Iverson went down. The first 8 games (when Detroit went 6-2), Stuckey shot 49.5%, averaged 16.5 points and 5.1 assists and 82.1% from the free throw line. For a guy that "never broke out of his slump" he sure played well for that streak. Then suddenly, teams don't have to hone in on Hamilton and he starts to struggle. Why? Because Stuckey essentially becomes our only offensive option outside of Prince and McDyess' jumper. Of course he's going to struggle, he's got no help and teams are starting to design their defenses to shut him down. This is where Curry has to come in to not only help Stuckey as a player, but also get him better looks instead of wait around at the top of the key.

Curry can't help his mother to save his life and you want him to draw offensive plays? He said he won't worry about the offense, he said the players will figure it out. He is focusing on defense and you can see how fantastic our defense is and how organized we are on offense and how many awesome plays we have.

Bynum surprised me, but you gotta hate Detroit and Stuckey or be (Please Use More Appropriate Word) to say Bynum is anything close to Stuckey. Stuckey have potential to be a star, A lot of ppl outside Detroit said that, so you can't say we overrate him. Bynum is fighting to prove he deserves a NBA contract.

It's almost the same thing as say Hunter is better than Billups. Hunter deserves respect but...

I like Bynum as a backup PG but both he and Stuckey have similar games; attack the rack and look to score. I think he'd better suited playing behind more a true playmaker as a change of pace. I also think our lack of a true zone buster sorta impacts our effectiveness. We've been trying to use Hermann as that 3 pt specialist, but he only really feels it once every few games. We need a Korver/Kapono type behind Prince, imo to help space the floor.

As for who's better? Stuckey. That however is not to say that Bynum never outplays him. Kid has had some real nice games and at times Stuckey has struggled. But make no mistake; Stuckey is more talented and has the higher ceiling. It's just gonna take him some time to really learn the PG position.

Cowology wrote:I like Bynum as a backup PG but both he and Stuckey have similar games; attack the rack and look to score. I think he'd better suited playing behind more a true playmaker as a change of pace. I also think our lack of a true zone buster sorta impacts our effectiveness. We've been trying to use Hermann as that 3 pt specialist, but he only really feels it once every few games. We need a Korver/Kapono type behind Prince, imo to help space the floor.

As for who's better? Stuckey. That however is not to say that Bynum never outplays him. Kid has had some real nice games and at times Stuckey has struggled. But make no mistake; Stuckey is more talented and has the higher ceiling. It's just gonna take him some time to really learn the PG position.

I hate, hate, hate redundant skillsets at the same position. You're absolutely right, the problem with Bynum/Stuckey is that they play the exact same way.

Bynum reminds a bit of less talented Iverson (Except better on defense, and can finish around the rim). When he's on the floor he's got the ball almost 95% of the time. He's a willing passer, but not unless it's going to lead to an assist. He's looking to get the score or the assist every time down the floor. This can work over shorter stretches, but I don't think it can sustain success. That's why he'll be a very solid backup PG, but that's it.

BDM22 wrote:Bynum reminds a bit of less talented Iverson (Except better on defense, and can finish around the rim). When he's on the floor he's got the ball almost 95% of the time. He's a willing passer, but not unless it's going to lead to an assist. He's looking to get the score or the assist every time down the floor. This can work over shorter stretches, but I don't think it can sustain success. That's why he'll be a very solid backup PG, but that's it.

Very astute observation. I hadn't really thought of it like that, but you are absolutely correct.

aad wrote:since when did your backup shoot and have the ball in his hands more then your starter its not stuckey its the way they useing him

bynum comes in the game and take 3 or 4 shots in a row since when did stuckey ballhog if anything he defers to the vets somthing bynum dont do

bynum does not not run a team better then anyone he just make plays for himself

People have short memory or what? Stuckey has his share of ballhogging. He dominated the ball most of the time before the all-star break, back then he had the green line to do whatever he want, what made you think he could get that 40-points game?

This board really have double standard when it comes to Stuckey. He played one good game because his teammates drew lots of defense attention and the offense totally ran through him 3 months ago, then people thought that one game represents what he really is. And after that, he played like a crap most of the time, poeple just ignored all that, instead tried very hard to come up with any excuse for him, including blaming his backcourt partner(ironically when he played his career high game, he was with the same backcourt partner), then after the said backcourt partner out, he is still what he is, people finally admit this is his learning year, some lessons needs to be paid, but still blindly believe he will be the star they want him to be, well, maybe is, maybe not, he is a project, who knows whether he can finally live up to the expection?
But right now all I know is on the court, Bynum plays better than Stuckey, that's a fact. I agree Bynum is a good backup guard, but when your supposed team's future player is outplayed by this kind of player most of the time when given the same opportunity, then what does it say to this future player?