2013 Prospects Thread

[Bucksfans1and2]

Browns used their 2nd round pick in 2013 on former Baylor WR Josh Gordon in today's supplemental draft. Big, fast, strong, but incredibly inexperienced. His coaches all vouched for his character even though he had a pot bust and some academic issues.

A couple of draftniks had him pretty high after breaking him down but I wouldn't have given up above a 4th for his services.

Browns looking to go real young

[Icness]

FSU DE Brandon Jenkins out for season. He has an interesting decision on whether to take a medical redshirt or go into the draft.

LSU T Chris Faulk also out for season with a major knee injury, reportedly all four ligaments torn. He's a junior, hard to see him declaring now but it hasn't stopped others. That kind of injury will absolutely keep him out of the 1st if he comes out.

[Icness]

Utah DL Star Lotulelei vs. Utah State:
--primarily lined up as 5-technique on right side of their 3-man front
--awesome club move, quick, powerful, rocks blocker upon impact
--has a very nice burst once he disengages off block, quick step
--brute strength in his shoulders and arms is impressive
--locates the ball quickly & consistently
--got blocked a little too easily by just the guard on plays run away from him
--got held on at least 30% of snaps, drew 2 penalties for that plus a chop block and a false start
--USU ran right at him four times that I saw where he wasn't doubled or chopped. Those plays produced a net of 1 yard.
--showed some leadership on field
--much more effective crashing the tackle than the guard on pass rush moves
--moves kind of like BJ Raji, but not as quick off the snap
--popped upright out of his stance several times
--got driven backwards by double team, couldn't anchor. You might say "but it's two on one, of course they pushed him backwards". My response is to watch Isaac Sopoaga or Terrance Knighton in those situations. Star is not in their caliber in that facet of the game.

I've seen three of his games now and while I think he's going to be a NFL starter, he's not proven to me he's a dynamic presence a la Ngata or Atkins or maybe even Red Bryant. I wouldn't take him top 20 right now, but that could change.

[Roger Murdock]

Geno Smith - top 5 pick?

[Icness]

Geno Smith - top 5 pick?

Hard to say but it could happen. If he can continue to show his development as a passer is valid he's got a shot there.

Right now I only see two surefire top 5 picks:
Barkevious Mingo
Matt Barkley

[TDJacksonville]

Geno Smith - top 5 pick?

Hard to say but it could happen. If he can continue to show his development as a passer is valid he's got a shot there.

Right now I only see two surefire top 5 picks:
Barkevious Mingo
Matt Barkley

i see Mingo Barkley Montgomery and woods atleast as locks in the top 10 if not 5.

[Icness]

Two guys you are going to hear getting a lot more love as the draft process progresses:
Miss St. CB Johnthan Banks--good length, great ball skills, smart and instinctive, knows his athleticism well, can play off man or press. He basically erased a mid-round WR for Auburn (Emory Blake) last Sat., fared well against other NFL talent in the past too. Has a lot of similarities to Packers rookie Casey Hayward, only bigger and with better hands. Tough to see a talented CB with his size from that conference not going 1st round. Active NCAA leader in INTs.

Ohio State S Ohrian Johnson--just took over as starting SS on merit, was a pretty highly touted recruit that never put it together but the mind has finally caught up with the body. 6'2", 225 pounds, hits like a truck. Where he's improved is in field awareness. Those that have seen OSU practice rave about his ability to check tight ends from the line and ride them in coverage. Made some plays last week vs. UCF. Late round guy with lots of upside, could sneak into middle rounds if he makes some plays.

[Next Coming]

Geno Smith - top 5 pick?

He's only played James Madison and Marshall but he was near perfect v Clemson in the Orange Bowl last year and more than held his own v LSU's dominating D as well.

I think he over takes Bray and Barkley as the first QB taken. There's about 5 1st Round QB's this year(Geno Smith, Tyler Bray, Matt Barkley, Tyler Wilson, Landry Jones with an outside shot for EJ Manuel if a team falls in love with him) but there's not a Luck, Griffin, Newton, Stafford guy in the Draft.

[Icness]

Smith has the RG3 thing from last year working: through his first two games he has more TDs than incompletions.

My current QB pecking order:
1. Tyler Wilson, but his concussions (he's had three) are a real concern
2. Geno Smith
3. Tyler Bray
4. EJ Manuel
5. Matt Barkley
6. Logan Thomas
7. Aaron Murray
8. Zac Dysert
9. Landry Jones
10. Brad Sorenson

Very subject to dramatic change. One of the most critical evaluation tools for QBs is how they progress (or don't) from September to November.

Barkley = Brady Quinn

[ohara]

Wondering how far up the ladder Manti Te'o goes now. Each year he has improved an aspect of his game. Right now, he is pretty much the total package. And he plays with massive heart. Long as he avoids injury, I think he goes Top 10. This past draft he would have going somewhere in the range of 13-18. So his decision to stay, barring injury, will likely serve him well.

Barkley made the call to return to USC because he wanted a National Championship and a Heisman Trophy. Now he is likely out of the running for either. He would have challenged RG3 for the 2nd QB to be taken in the last draft. My guess now is his decision to stay will likely cost him money. But he does have the rest of the year to try to redeem himself in the eyes of the NFL Scouts. And to be fair, he is still listed as a Top 1-2 prospect on early draft boards. But if (when) he gets exposed again, I think the slide starts.

[Icness]

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[reeDfense]

I personally think barkley will bust...I just don't see the making of a great NFL QB when I watch him although obviously I could be wrong

My top 5 QB's


1. Tyler Wilson
2. Tyler Bray
3. Aaron Murray
4. Matt Barkley
5. Geno Smith

Probably gonna get flamed on this one lol...sorry guys.

[Next Coming]

Could be one of those years where a LT and a DL go #1 and #2 like in 2008 where Jake Long and Chris Long went in the top two.

Look for Taylor Lewan to follow in the footsteps of Jake Long and Star Loutelatit(gotta learn how to spell his name) go #2.

[Icness]

Putting up a mock draft late tonight. Top 5 picks:
Barkevious Mingo
Jonathan Hankins
Jarvis Jones
Geno Smith
Jake Matthews

Barkley goes 17th, Wilson 23rd, Bray 31st. More of a big board ranking than a viable mock.

[TSE]

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