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Taking the pulse of Dubs fans: Who should be starting?

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Gimme your four other starters:

Klay
19
9%
Draymond
49
22%
Wiggs
36
16%
Loon
15
7%
CP3
1
0%
Kuminga
44
20%
Moody
23
11%
Podz
13
6%
TJD
15
7%
Saric
4
2%
 
Total votes: 219

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Re: Taking the pulse of Dubs fans: Who should be starting? 

Post#141 » by CDM_Stats » Fri Feb 9, 2024 6:36 pm

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EvanZ wrote:Wasn't Kuminga "imaginary" just a month ago? Moody was less imaginary to me. We've seen what he can do when he's actually given a chance. Kerr just continually cuts the rug out from under him for reasons that don't make any sense to me. I have no doubt Moody will work his way ahead of Q and Santos though once Kerr gets serious. Of course then he'll have to get past GPII. :lol:

I just don't get why they didn't trade him even for a second.


Yup agreed. Kuminga is more like Randolph in that regard. It's been awesome watching Kuminga rapid improvement... he's proven me wrong game after game after game.

Moody just does what I expect every game. Solid basketball. And I actually agree with not trading him even if Kerr keeps him out of the rotation for the year. His contract and development is lining up pretty nicely with Klay's unfortunate and inevitable transition away from being starter level. His time is coming.


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Re: Taking the pulse of Dubs fans: Who should be starting? 

Post#142 » by The411 » Fri Feb 9, 2024 6:37 pm

EvanZ wrote:Wasn't Kuminga "imaginary" just a month ago? Moody was less imaginary to me. We've seen what he can do when he's actually given a chance. Kerr just continually cuts the rug out from under him for reasons that don't make any sense to me. I have no doubt Moody will work his way ahead of Q and Santos though once Kerr gets serious. Of course then he'll have to get past GPII. :lol:

I just don't get why they didn't trade him even for a second.


It is bizarre how people marginalize Moody despite watching Kerr do the exact thing to Kuminga. Of course Kuminga has a compeltely different ceiling, but I do find it odd that Moody is being treated like 13th guy on the roster.

Moody is an adaptable piece who usually isn't going to run around taking off balance fade away 28 footers with 19 on the shot clock. He gives hustle grit and solid play and can score 25-30 every once in a while.

There's a reason that Warriors record has been dramtically worse when Klay is in the starting line-up. His play is so wildly inconsistent and his peaks and valleys are so extreme. Problem is that his valleys occur much more often than his peaks.
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Re: Taking the pulse of Dubs fans: Who should be starting? 

Post#143 » by WarriorGM » Fri Feb 9, 2024 6:42 pm

EvanZ wrote:Wasn't Kuminga "imaginary" just a month ago? Moody was less imaginary to me. We've seen what he can do when he's actually given a chance. Kerr just continually cuts the rug out from under him for reasons that don't make any sense to me. I have no doubt Moody will work his way ahead of Q and Santos though once Kerr gets serious. Of course then he'll have to get past GPII. :lol:

I just don't get why they didn't trade him even for a second.


Who else is Kerr going to turn to in the playoffs when the players ahead of him prove inadequate?
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Re: Taking the pulse of Dubs fans: Who should be starting? 

Post#144 » by TB » Fri Feb 9, 2024 6:50 pm

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EvanZ wrote:Wasn't Kuminga "imaginary" just a month ago? Moody was less imaginary to me. We've seen what he can do when he's actually given a chance. Kerr just continually cuts the rug out from under him for reasons that don't make any sense to me. I have no doubt Moody will work his way ahead of Q and Santos though once Kerr gets serious. Of course then he'll have to get past GPII. :lol:

I just don't get why they didn't trade him even for a second.


Yup agreed. Kuminga is more like Randolph in that regard. It's been awesome watching Kuminga rapid improvement... he's proven me wrong game after game after game.

Moody just does what I expect every game. Solid basketball. And I actually agree with not trading him even if Kerr keeps him out of the rotation for the year. His contract and development is lining up pretty nicely with Klay's unfortunate and inevitable transition away from being starter level. His time is coming.


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Re: Taking the pulse of Dubs fans: Who should be starting? 

Post#145 » by floppymoose » Fri Feb 9, 2024 6:55 pm

EvanZ wrote:Wasn't Kuminga "imaginary" just a month ago?

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Re: Taking the pulse of Dubs fans: Who should be starting? 

Post#146 » by Onus » Fri Feb 9, 2024 6:57 pm

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EvanZ wrote:Wasn't Kuminga "imaginary" just a month ago? Moody was less imaginary to me. We've seen what he can do when he's actually given a chance. Kerr just continually cuts the rug out from under him for reasons that don't make any sense to me. I have no doubt Moody will work his way ahead of Q and Santos though once Kerr gets serious. Of course then he'll have to get past GPII. :lol:

I just don't get why they didn't trade him even for a second.


It is bizarre how people marginalize Moody despite watching Kerr do the exact thing to Kuminga. Of course Kuminga has a compeltely different ceiling, but I do find it odd that Moody is being treated like 13th guy on the roster.

Moody is an adaptable piece who usually isn't going to run around taking off balance fade away 28 footers with 19 on the shot clock. He gives hustle grit and solid play and can score 25-30 every once in a while.

There's a reason that Warriors record has been dramtically worse when Klay is in the starting line-up. His play is so wildly inconsistent and his peaks and valleys are so extreme. Problem is that his valleys occur much more often than his peaks.

We are barely beating people even with his peaks because his defense is so bad. 3-0 without him with all blow out wins is pretty incredible when we haven't blown out anyone with him.
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Re: Taking the pulse of Dubs fans: Who should be starting? 

Post#147 » by floppymoose » Fri Feb 9, 2024 7:08 pm

Onus wrote:We are barely beating people even with his peaks because his defense is so bad. 3-0 without him with all blow out wins is pretty incredible when we haven't blown out anyone with him.


That is why I was so hoping for a trade in Jan/Feb of 2023. He had a streak of 30 point games, but he was basically a break-even player at that level of offense. Between the hot streak and his short contract we could have gotten something for him back then.
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Re: Taking the pulse of Dubs fans: Who should be starting? 

Post#148 » by SpreeChokeJob » Fri Feb 9, 2024 7:17 pm

The411 wrote:
EvanZ wrote:Wasn't Kuminga "imaginary" just a month ago? Moody was less imaginary to me. We've seen what he can do when he's actually given a chance. Kerr just continually cuts the rug out from under him for reasons that don't make any sense to me. I have no doubt Moody will work his way ahead of Q and Santos though once Kerr gets serious. Of course then he'll have to get past GPII. :lol:

I just don't get why they didn't trade him even for a second.


It is bizarre how people marginalize Moody despite watching Kerr do the exact thing to Kuminga. Of course Kuminga has a compeltely different ceiling, but I do find it odd that Moody is being treated like 13th guy on the roster.

Moody is an adaptable piece who usually isn't going to run around taking off balance fade away 28 footers with 19 on the shot clock. He gives hustle grit and solid play and can score 25-30 every once in a while.

There's a reason that Warriors record has been dramtically worse when Klay is in the starting line-up. His play is so wildly inconsistent and his peaks and valleys are so extreme. Problem is that his valleys occur much more often than his peaks.

Kerr doesn’t like anyone over 6’6”. He likes looking at players at eye level. That and he’s a first round draft pick works against him. He needs to spend a couple seasons in Europe and China, come back and say he’s a journeyman. Kerr might give him some minutes then. But then the over 6’6” is still working against him. TJD is being kept in Chase Center basement. Remember to bring him some bread and water when you stop by for a game.
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Re: Taking the pulse of Dubs fans: Who should be starting? 

Post#149 » by EvanZ » Fri Feb 9, 2024 8:02 pm

Moody measured exactly 6'6" in shoes but 6'4.5" barefoot. Klay is actually 1.25" taller than Moody.
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Re: Taking the pulse of Dubs fans: Who should be starting? 

Post#150 » by CDM_Stats » Fri Feb 9, 2024 8:24 pm

The411 wrote:There's a reason that Warriors record has been dramtically worse when Klay is in the starting line-up. His play is so wildly inconsistent and his peaks and valleys are so extreme. Problem is that his valleys occur much more often than his peaks.


In terms of accuracy and ease-to-use, the consistency metric is one of the best and least publicized metrics out there. Its a very simple one too, the problem is which metric to measure consistency with

Anyways, the system seems to breed these types more often than not.. drafted them too. Klay's been that way, but it was masked heavily with Curry and then KD. Poole did the same thing, though without KD. JK looked to be on the same path but he may have established a higher floor and consistency, but is more limited in the upside because of his lack of a 3-ball

The team thrived when it had a lot of people elevating the floor with their consistent, usually positive, play. As those people aged, its exposing the less consistent people more.. something that will likely continue until the next true superstar plays for the Warriors
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Re: Taking the pulse of Dubs fans: Who should be starting? 

Post#151 » by TB » Sat Feb 10, 2024 12:51 am

EvanZ wrote:Moody measured exactly 6'6" in shoes but 6'4.5" barefoot. Klay is actually 1.25" taller than Moody.


Moody and Kuminga are both shorter than people realize due to their strength/length. They definitely play bigger than their barefoot height.
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Re: Taking the pulse of Dubs fans: Who should be starting? 

Post#152 » by Crazy-Canuck » Sat Mar 30, 2024 5:18 pm

I'm going to need to change my vote. Tjd is earning that starting C spot.
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Re: Taking the pulse of Dubs fans: Who should be starting? 

Post#153 » by killmongrel » Sat Mar 30, 2024 7:32 pm

If Dray is starting at the 5 then Steph/Wiggins/Moody/Kuminga/Draymond.

If TJD is starting at the 5 then Steph/Wiggins/Moody/Draymond/TJD.
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Re: Taking the pulse of Dubs fans: Who should be starting? 

Post#154 » by SinceGatlingWasARookie » Sat Mar 30, 2024 10:43 pm

Moody is more of a dream that people just can’t let go of than anything consistently real.

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