Is the Draymond Situation Starting to Bother You?

[KevinMcreynolds]

just heard some more clips from his podcast, he's so insufferable now I can't take it. Please trade him immediately. Don't care if it's for a rack of basketballs.

[xdrta+]

just heard some more clips from his podcast, he's so insufferable now I can't take it.

There's an easy solution for that.

[Sleepy51]

just heard some more clips from his podcast, he's so insufferable now I can't take it. Please trade him immediately. Don't care if it's for a rack of basketballs.

The good news is that the organization is apparently taking the stance of “we don’t want Draymond to interact with the refs anymore” because it distracts the team, negatively impacts other players energy and leads to these spirals where Draymond gets himself ejected. This is good news because #1 it’s absolutely correct and should have been imposed by the team a long time ago and #2 there’s about a 0.000% chance he actually lives up to this standard. So they are laying the groundwork for a “he is still a great player but we just can’t make it work” trade for some kind of value recovery.

Assuming they actually follow through on holding him to any kind of standard which they never have before

[KevinMcreynolds]

guarantee he argues on the 1st whistle

[oaktownwarriors87]

Should give him a bonus.



I'm not spinning, I'm just raising the possibility that sometimes good things can ultimately result from bad situations, bad behavior. These guys have been playing a lot of basketball for a lot of years now, having a break from basketball is not a bad idea.

If Draymond could still play defense half as well as you are defending him the team might actually benefit from him returning...

Warriors' defensive rating cratered while he was out. Coincidence?

They're 7-8 with him and 10-11 without him. Curry has a better net rating without him. He's +0.0 in non-Wiggins minutes. Only Garuba and Santos have lower net ratings in those minutes.

Every players net ratings without Green and Wiggins




If they could flip Wiggins and Green for a competent PF I'm sure the team would be just fine.

[Twinkie defense]

Lol.

[Onus]

Dray back Monday. So back to 10 min for jk?

[watch1958]

Dray back Monday. So back to 10 min for jk?

My guess is he’ll play 25 minutes +, with the worst lineup imaginable.

Maybe CoJo, Wiggins , Kevon, Saric, JK

[whatisacenter]

It was fun while it lasted…but he is back.

[Twinkie defense]

Welcome back Draymond!

[sonnyhill]

Some interesting Draymond Green observations and statistics from yesterday evening's Laker game:

With Green on the floor against the Lakers, the Warriors were a plus-31; in the 12-minutes when Green sat, the Warriors were a minus-32. James and Davis dominated the Warriors' defense without Green on the floor; and the Warrior offense stagnated without Green playing center and facilitating the offense as another ballhandler-passer.

Green starting as the team's undersized center (fits into the Kerr narrative of Kerr not able to incorporate a big man into his lineups), has allowed for both Wiggins and Kuminga to thrive while playing together for the first time this season.

A frontcourt of Wiggins, Kuminga and Green does give the Warriors a more cohesive defense that might be able to better mask Curry's pathetic attempts to feign wanting to play defense and Thompson's erosion of lateral movement.

Also, Green unlocks Curry on offense.

It is quite impressive seeing an undersized Green able to slow down both James and Davis, something that nobody else on the Warriors seem to be able to do.

[SpreeChokeJob]

Some interesting Draymond Green observations and statistics from yesterday evening's Laker game:

With Green on the floor against the Lakers, the Warriors were a plus-31; in the 12-minutes when Green sat, the Warriors were a minus-32. James and Davis dominated the Warriors' defense without Green on the floor; and the Warrior offense stagnated without Green playing center and facilitating the offense as another ballhandler-passer.

Green starting as the team's undersized center (fits into the Kerr narrative of Kerr not able to incorporate a big man into his lineups), has allowed for both Wiggins and Kuminga to thrive while playing together for the first time this season.

A frontcourt of Wiggins, Kuminga and Green does give the Warriors a more cohesive defense that might be able to better mask Curry's pathetic attempts to feign wanting to play defense and Thompson's erosion of lateral movement.

Also, Green unlocks Curry on offense.

It is quite impressive seeing an undersized Green able to slow down both James and Davis, something that nobody else on the Warriors seem to be unable to do.

It helps to have Kuminga and Wiggins playing alongside him. That is obvious. The next obvious thing is to replace Klay with Moody or Saric in the starting lineup. I at least want to see that. Moody should fix all of Klay’s defensive deficiencies and Saric can at least pretend to be a big next to Green. The clock is ticking and missing the playin is a real possibility, so I appreciate if Kerr stops messing around.

[watch1958]

Some interesting Draymond Green observations and statistics from yesterday evening's Laker game:

With Green on the floor against the Lakers, the Warriors were a plus-31; in the 12-minutes when Green sat, the Warriors were a minus-32. James and Davis dominated the Warriors' defense without Green on the floor; and the Warrior offense stagnated without Green playing center and facilitating the offense as another ballhandler-passer.

Green starting as the team's undersized center (fits into the Kerr narrative of Kerr not able to incorporate a big man into his lineups), has allowed for both Wiggins and Kuminga to thrive while playing together for the first time this season.

A frontcourt of Wiggins, Kuminga and Green does give the Warriors a more cohesive defense that might be able to better mask Curry's pathetic attempts to feign wanting to play defense and Thompson's erosion of lateral movement.

Also, Green unlocks Curry on offense.

It is quite impressive seeing an undersized Green able to slow down both James and Davis, something that nobody else on the Warriors seem to be unable to do.

It helps to have Kuminga and Wiggins playing alongside him. That is obvious. The next obvious thing is to replace Klay with Moody or Saric in the starting lineup. I at least want to see that. Moody should fix all of Klay’s defensive deficiencies and Saric can at least pretend to be a big next to Green. The clock is ticking and missing the playin is a real possibility, so I appreciate if Kerr stops messing around.

Last night Kerr said that the Steph Klay Draymond JK Wiggins lineup was our best, and that he wanted to see a lot more of it.

So it will be awhile before Klay’s minutes are cut.

[SinceGatlingWasARookie]

Draymond is fine but the rest of the team situation is bothering me.

[sonnyhill]

Some interesting Draymond Green observations and statistics from yesterday evening's Laker game:

With Green on the floor against the Lakers, the Warriors were a plus-31; in the 12-minutes when Green sat, the Warriors were a minus-32. James and Davis dominated the Warriors' defense without Green on the floor; and the Warrior offense stagnated without Green playing center and facilitating the offense as another ballhandler-passer.

Green starting as the team's undersized center (fits into the Kerr narrative of Kerr not able to incorporate a big man into his lineups), has allowed for both Wiggins and Kuminga to thrive while playing together for the first time this season.

A frontcourt of Wiggins, Kuminga and Green does give the Warriors a more cohesive defense that might be able to better mask Curry's pathetic attempts to feign wanting to play defense and Thompson's erosion of lateral movement.

Also, Green unlocks Curry on offense.

It is quite impressive seeing an undersized Green able to slow down both James and Davis, something that nobody else on the Warriors seem to be unable to do.

It helps to have Kuminga and Wiggins playing alongside him. That is obvious. The next obvious thing is to replace Klay with Moody or Saric in the starting lineup. I at least want to see that. Moody should fix all of Klay’s defensive deficiencies and Saric can at least pretend to be a big next to Green. The clock is ticking and missing the playin is a real possibility, so I appreciate if Kerr stops messing around.

It is quite alarming to see how Kerr would rather have the team sink down "to Davy Jones's locker" instead of adding a more-athletic Moody in place Thompson into the starting lineup.

Who else on this board cringed watching Thompson with James as his defensive assignment? All because Thompson cannot keep up defensively with guards...

This Kerr-coached team is a defensive abomination.

[SpreeChokeJob]

Some interesting Draymond Green observations and statistics from yesterday evening's Laker game:

With Green on the floor against the Lakers, the Warriors were a plus-31; in the 12-minutes when Green sat, the Warriors were a minus-32. James and Davis dominated the Warriors' defense without Green on the floor; and the Warrior offense stagnated without Green playing center and facilitating the offense as another ballhandler-passer.

Green starting as the team's undersized center (fits into the Kerr narrative of Kerr not able to incorporate a big man into his lineups), has allowed for both Wiggins and Kuminga to thrive while playing together for the first time this season.

A frontcourt of Wiggins, Kuminga and Green does give the Warriors a more cohesive defense that might be able to better mask Curry's pathetic attempts to feign wanting to play defense and Thompson's erosion of lateral movement.

Also, Green unlocks Curry on offense.

It is quite impressive seeing an undersized Green able to slow down both James and Davis, something that nobody else on the Warriors seem to be unable to do.

It helps to have Kuminga and Wiggins playing alongside him. That is obvious. The next obvious thing is to replace Klay with Moody or Saric in the starting lineup. I at least want to see that. Moody should fix all of Klay’s defensive deficiencies and Saric can at least pretend to be a big next to Green. The clock is ticking and missing the playin is a real possibility, so I appreciate if Kerr stops messing around.

Last night Kerr said that the Steph Klay Draymond JK Wiggins lineup was our best, and that he wanted to see a lot more of it.

So it will be awhile before Klay’s minutes are cut.

By the time he responds it will be too late. Much like last year, during the playoffs he brought the young guys cold when the rest of the year he played Lamb and Jerome who I don’t remember being in the playoffs. That’s a WTF moment. Meanwhile he played the defensive juggernaut of Curry Thompson and Poole until it was too late.

He bent for Kuminga after political pressure from the media, fans, and the organization. He played CoJo before Moody until the crowd chanted for Moody. The Wiggins Kuminga experiment initially was a disaster because there were still three non defenders. Now with Green there; it’s only down to two non defenders. If they can get it down to one non defender (Curry) and the replacement player with the similar production as Klay which isn’t hard to match these days since he’s so sporadic, then the team will get the extra margin to not have to lose close games unnecessarily.

[SpreeChokeJob]

Some interesting Draymond Green observations and statistics from yesterday evening's Laker game:

With Green on the floor against the Lakers, the Warriors were a plus-31; in the 12-minutes when Green sat, the Warriors were a minus-32. James and Davis dominated the Warriors' defense without Green on the floor; and the Warrior offense stagnated without Green playing center and facilitating the offense as another ballhandler-passer.

Green starting as the team's undersized center (fits into the Kerr narrative of Kerr not able to incorporate a big man into his lineups), has allowed for both Wiggins and Kuminga to thrive while playing together for the first time this season.

A frontcourt of Wiggins, Kuminga and Green does give the Warriors a more cohesive defense that might be able to better mask Curry's pathetic attempts to feign wanting to play defense and Thompson's erosion of lateral movement.

Also, Green unlocks Curry on offense.

It is quite impressive seeing an undersized Green able to slow down both James and Davis, something that nobody else on the Warriors seem to be unable to do.

It helps to have Kuminga and Wiggins playing alongside him. That is obvious. The next obvious thing is to replace Klay with Moody or Saric in the starting lineup. I at least want to see that. Moody should fix all of Klay’s defensive deficiencies and Saric can at least pretend to be a big next to Green. The clock is ticking and missing the playin is a real possibility, so I appreciate if Kerr stops messing around.

It is quite alarming to see how Kerr would rather have the team sink down "to Davy Jones's locker" instead of adding a more-athletic Moody in place Thompson into the starting lineup.

Who else on this board cringed watching Thompson with James as his defensive assignment? All because Thompson cannot keep up defensively with guards...

This Kerr-coached team is a defensive abomination.

I don’t envy Kerr’s position. In terms of stubbornness Klay and Kerr are the stubborn brothers. Kerr also has to manage the locker room, but what’s right is right and winning will cure all bad feelings. It’s better than what’s happening now. Curry is giving his heart and he was in the zone of hyperfocus yesterday night. It’s not right to waste his effort because some people’s egos might get hurt.

This team still won’t win a championship, but at least they will make some noise if they get into the playoffs and build something going into next year that can be carried over.

[Impuniti]

It helps to have Kuminga and Wiggins playing alongside him. That is obvious. The next obvious thing is to replace Klay with Moody or Saric in the starting lineup. I at least want to see that. Moody should fix all of Klay’s defensive deficiencies and Saric can at least pretend to be a big next to Green. The clock is ticking and missing the playin is a real possibility, so I appreciate if Kerr stops messing around.

It is quite alarming to see how Kerr would rather have the team sink down "to Davy Jones's locker" instead of adding a more-athletic Moody in place Thompson into the starting lineup.

Who else on this board cringed watching Thompson with James as his defensive assignment? All because Thompson cannot keep up defensively with guards...

This Kerr-coached team is a defensive abomination.

I don’t envy Kerr’s position. In terms of stubbornness Klay and Kerr are the stubborn brothers. Kerr also has to manage the locker room, but what’s right is right and winning will cure all bad feelings. It’s better than what’s happening now. Curry is giving his heart and he was in the zone of hyperfocus yesterday night. It’s not right to waste his effort because some people’s egos might get hurt.

This team still won’t win a championship, but at least they will make some noise if they get into the playoffs and build something going into next year that can be carried over.

Building what? The old players will be worse next season and this FO doesn't want to change for some mystical reason of loyalty.

[ILOVEIT]

I know for some of you Draymond's antics don't matter. Fact is he took another cheep shot at AD.

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[KevinMcreynolds]

you can tell he hasn't changed at all and there's going to be another meltdown. if we can get ANYTHING for him at the deadline, even a bad contract with less years, I'd send him on his way. I'll personally drive him to the airport.