Game 63, Spurs at Warriors, 5:30 PM PST

[billinder33]

You kinda have to because the team is committed to him eventhough he doesn't provide much outside of scoring. And sometimes his offense is more valuable than his lack of defense amd rebounding. Problem is you have the exact same player in klay, they just get their offense differently.

The difference is that what JK does can open up opportunities for Klay. The reverse isn't true.

It is true. Klays 3 pt shooting still provides gravity for jk to see space in the paint. They are the same. Just like Poole and klay were the same.

When Klay has the ball in his hands, no one else gets to touch it. He's a me first, last guy to touch the ball player. Kuminga has shown he's at least a willing passer out of bad spots, he has some budding facilitator attributes, though admittedly very raw at this stage. Kkay has never shown that because he's not that guy, and never will be. That's the difference.

The Klay=Poole=Kuminga schtick is idiotic. These three aren't similar to each other at all, aside from the fact that they all play professional basketball.

[Onus]

Klay haters; Klay lead the team in plus minus with a plus 2.
Klay also lead the team in scoring with 27 at fairly good efficiency.

Santos plus 1 was the only other player with a positive plus minus.

Klays value goes up without Steph. He’s our only legit shooter. Everyone else needs to be open to wide open to shoot 3s.

[superunknown]

Defensively, dray needs wiggins with him.

Offensively, dray needs to be staggered away from cp3.

Those 2 moves alone fixes alot of our issues.

all year long have been listening to this refrain.
either it's not just a couple of moves or the coaching staff is that bad.

Coaching staff is bad. They’re catering to egos and not to win games. Been that way all year.

at this point bad is belittling.

[Onus]

The difference is that what JK does can open up opportunities for Klay. The reverse isn't true.

It is true. Klays 3 pt shooting still provides gravity for jk to see space in the paint. They are the same. Just like Poole and klay were the same.

When Klay has the ball in his hands, no one else gets to touch it. He's a me first, last guy to touch the ball player. Kuminga has shown he's at least a willing passer out of bad spots, he has some budding facilitator attributes, though admittedly very raw at this stage. Kkay has never shown that because he's not that guy, and never will be. That's the difference.

The Klay=Poole=Kuminga schtick is idiotic. These three aren't similar to each other at all, aside from the fact that they all play professional basketball.

Klay and jks assist ratios are essentially the same but Klay actually turns the ball over less.

[Onus]

all year long have been listening to this refrain.
either it's not just a couple of moves or the coaching staff is that bad.

Coaching staff is bad. They’re catering to egos and not to win games. Been that way all year.

at this point bad is belittling.

I agree bad is understating it.

[SinceGatlingWasARookie]

You kinda have to because the team is committed to him eventhough he doesn't provide much outside of scoring. And sometimes his offense is more valuable than his lack of defense amd rebounding. Problem is you have the exact same player in klay, they just get their offense differently.

The difference is that what JK does can open up opportunities for Klay. The reverse isn't true.

It is true. Klays 3 pt shooting still provides gravity for jk to see space in the paint. They are the same. Just like Poole and klay were the same.

Fine
Trayce, Dray, Klay, Kuminga, Payton
And Or Dray Klay, Wiggins, Kuminga, Podz

Since Kuminga does not rebound but does have guard speed be open to having Kuminga defend guards.

Then Looney or Saric with Santos, Moody, Quinones and CP3 (with a bit of Trayce and Wiggins thrown in.
Maybe bring up Garuba if we dons’t want to play Santos at power forward-

[Crazy-Canuck]

Defensively, dray needs wiggins with him.

Offensively, dray needs to be staggered away from cp3.

Those 2 moves alone fixes alot of our issues.

all year long have been listening to this refrain.
either it's not just a couple of moves or the coaching staff is that bad.

For during stephs injury.

Dray is at his best when it's a controlled chaos. But defense in its nature requires trust. He's had that with loon and he had that with Wiggins. Now he's starting with 4 defenders that play undisciplined or not at all.

Cp3 doesn't move at all.
Jk doesnt read and react at all.
Podz hunts charges and over helps.
And tjd has happy feet and jumps at everything.

The defense needs a stabilizer and that's what loon and wiggins did/do.
Now with loon to the bench and wiggins playing back up pf, our defense tanks.

You cant play bad defenders and exist dray to fix everything. Heliocentricity doesnt work on defense like it can on offense.

Kerr needs to dig into defense without steph instead of trying to maintain offense and give up more defense without steph.

[Onus]

Defensively, dray needs wiggins with him.

Offensively, dray needs to be staggered away from cp3.

Those 2 moves alone fixes alot of our issues.

all year long have been listening to this refrain.
either it's not just a couple of moves or the coaching staff is that bad.

For during stephs injury.

Dray is at his best when it's a controlled chaos. But defense in its nature requires trust. He's had that with loon and he had that with Wiggins. Now he's starting with 4 defenders that play undisciplined or not at all.

Cp3 doesn't move at all.
Jk doesnt read and react at all.
Podz hunts charges and over helps.
And tjd has happy feet and jumps at everything.

The defense needs a stabilizer and that's what loon and wiggins did/do.
Now with loon to the bench and wiggins playing back up pf, our defense tanks.

You cant play bad defenders and exist dray to fix everything. Heliocentricity doesnt work on defense like it can on offense.

Kerr needs to dig into defense without steph instead of trying to maintain offense and give up more defense without steph.

You can build a good regular season defense with only 1 elite defender. Dray can’t do it by himself though. Dray has always had other elite defenders next to him which helped dray.

[Onus]

Well the spurs will be much tougher to beat on Monday. Pop said wemby should play.

[Crazy-Canuck]

The difference is that what JK does can open up opportunities for Klay. The reverse isn't true.

It is true. Klays 3 pt shooting still provides gravity for jk to see space in the paint. They are the same. Just like Poole and klay were the same.

When Klay has the ball in his hands, no one else gets to touch it. He's a me first, last guy to touch the ball player. Kuminga has shown he's at least a willing passer out of bad spots, he has some budding facilitator attributes, though admittedly very raw at this stage. Kkay has never shown that because he's not that guy, and never will be. That's the difference.

The Klay=Poole=Kuminga schtick is idiotic. These three aren't similar to each other at all, aside from the fact that they all play professional basketball.

Klay and jks ast% is nearly the same: 11.9% vs 10.6% with klay a little better with turnovers.

Jk attacks rim to get points.
Klay shoots to get points.
Both are nil factors on defense and rebounding.
Neither are particularly bright.

Sounds like Poole.

[Crazy-Canuck]

all year long have been listening to this refrain.
either it's not just a couple of moves or the coaching staff is that bad.

For during stephs injury.

Dray is at his best when it's a controlled chaos. But defense in its nature requires trust. He's had that with loon and he had that with Wiggins. Now he's starting with 4 defenders that play undisciplined or not at all.

Cp3 doesn't move at all.
Jk doesnt read and react at all.
Podz hunts charges and over helps.
And tjd has happy feet and jumps at everything.

The defense needs a stabilizer and that's what loon and wiggins did/do.
Now with loon to the bench and wiggins playing back up pf, our defense tanks.

You cant play bad defenders and exist dray to fix everything. Heliocentricity doesnt work on defense like it can on offense.

Kerr needs to dig into defense without steph instead of trying to maintain offense and give up more defense without steph.

You can build a good regular season defense with only 1 elite defender. Dray can’t do it by himself though. Dray has always had other elite defenders next to him which helped dray.

Probably only 2 guys in the league that can do that by themselves: ad and gobert. Dray plays a different type but just as effective style, but need a stabilizer.

[billinder33]

Everyone in the NBA who has an assist % ~11 is Jordan Poole.

Bless your little hearts. I remember now why I took an 8-year hiatus from this board

[Onus]

For during stephs injury.

Dray is at his best when it's a controlled chaos. But defense in its nature requires trust. He's had that with loon and he had that with Wiggins. Now he's starting with 4 defenders that play undisciplined or not at all.

Cp3 doesn't move at all.
Jk doesnt read and react at all.
Podz hunts charges and over helps.
And tjd has happy feet and jumps at everything.

The defense needs a stabilizer and that's what loon and wiggins did/do.
Now with loon to the bench and wiggins playing back up pf, our defense tanks.

You cant play bad defenders and exist dray to fix everything. Heliocentricity doesnt work on defense like it can on offense.

Kerr needs to dig into defense without steph instead of trying to maintain offense and give up more defense without steph.

You can build a good regular season defense with only 1 elite defender. Dray can’t do it by himself though. Dray has always had other elite defenders next to him which helped dray.

Probably only 2 guys in the league that can do that by themselves: ad and gobert. Dray plays a different type but just as effective style, but need a stabilizer.

Dray is good but he needs elite help because our defense does a lot of scrambling because the nature of his style of defense. Being able to just funnel to a shot blocker is a lot easier defense to play and you wouldn’t need as many elite defenders around him.

[Crazy-Canuck]

Everyone in the NBA who has an assist % ~11 is Jordan Poole.

Bless your little hearts. I remember now why I took an 8-year hiatus from this board

Poole is at 18%. , but he gets that pg bump.

The point is you can't call jk a facilitator and say klay isn't when they are about the same.

All 3 aren't the exact same player, but they are in the same mold of providing scoring while little of everything else.

Klay was a great poa defender and a weapon on offense. Without the defense, we have modern klay.

Jk is a great rim pressure guy. But he needs to do other things well to make up for his limitations. I'm just not sure what those other things are. I think many are hoping his defense becomes a strength and they can use him somewhere. I think kerr is trying. They tried him at poa, then scrambler, then low man, and now back to use poa again. Ultimately, I think that's where he needs to be because he's so poor off ball and at rebounding. If jk becomes a decent poa and continued3his rim pressure? That's a player even with his bad rebounding. But we'd need to put floor spacers and off ball defenders around him which is why steph, dray, and wiggins works with him.

[Onus]

Everyone in the NBA who has an assist % ~11 is Jordan Poole.

Bless your little hearts. I remember now why I took an 8-year hiatus from this board

You’re the only one talking about Poole.

[Crazy-Canuck]

Everyone in the NBA who has an assist % ~11 is Jordan Poole.

Bless your little hearts. I remember now why I took an 8-year hiatus from this board

You’re the only one talking about Poole.

I brought up Poole as an example of a 1 way player. Different play style, but similar role. I still take jk over both and hope for improvement in the other areas.

[Crazy-Canuck]

Kerr is completely off his rocker.

He chose this specific starting line up because he wanted to emphasize defense.

[SpreeChokeJob]

Kerr is completely off his rocker.

He chose this specific starting line up because he wanted to emphasize defense.

I don’t think Kerr really does much besides being a PR man for post game loss interviews. Without Curry, he’s really in way over his head. This is the same guy that just agreed last second game plan to not guard Jaylen Brown. I don’t disagree to try it out, but after the second three maybe he should have called a timeout. Curry really was the system and Kerr without Curry is sort of like Poole without Curry.

[Crazy-Canuck]

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Maybe he'll start his offense team next game with loon as the starting pg. I mean he hasn't tried that stupid idea yet and he's tried most of the dumb ones already.

At some point a smart rotation is going backend itself in just like the jk,dray, wiggins trio (except he's stopped going to it again).

[CDM_Stats]

Wants to set tone defensively, starts CP3